Hoping to join the class of 2015

[username_taken29]

Hey guys,

So had my consultation call today. Couple key things coming out of the discussion:

1) he wanted to make sure my issues weren't caused by performance anxiety bc I have an otherwise healthy profile. The fact that I have had some ongoing partners assured him of this

2) he mentioned there are an increasing number of patients returning after 2 yrs or so bc their devices stop working. But this mainly relates to guys at the top end of the penis scale (eg custom cylinders that are 24, 26 and 28 cm in length) I'm around 6ish and he said that's a good size / the device should be quite reliable and last for some time

3) looking at around 25k in total costs for the device, surgery and use of the surgery centre. If the implant fails within 10 years, the next replacement is free

4) higher rate / possibility of infection when the device eventually needs to get replaced. This part scares me a bit and goes a little against what I've been hearing. Based on what I've read, I thought the 2nd time was supposed to go alot smoother and be smooth sailing. He also mentioned he may not be around in say 10 yrs and I would have to find someone else to do it. Very interested in hearing your feedback on this and what your experiences have been when it comes to thinking about replacements

5) he suggested I could come back after 3 days....prob get the stitches removed in canada and then go back to nyc if after 2 wks or so I don't know how to pump. Apparently he tells you over the phone how to work the pumping device and in younger guys like myself I have to start activating after about 2 weeks. Pockie. ..very interested in your thoughts on this....you basically stayed in nyc for 2 full weeks right? I think I'd honestly prefer to do the same for such a life changing thing...would want to make sure I get it right. He did say that u also can't really tell if there are infections until about 3 or 4 wks out so alot of guys wait until then to go back

6) was indifferent on pumping...said at the end of the day implant size will basically be what size is after an injection

Overall still pretty excited about this. He's gonna give me a patient list and I'll talk to some ppl who have implants. The only thing I'm worried about I what do I do when the device eventually fails. If Dr eid is not around, am I willing to put my fate in someone else's hands. Also the chance of a higher infection rate after replacement is playing on my mind. ...

Rushing a bit as I type this out....but looking forward to hearing your replies guys . Thanks

[hardernharder]

Hi,
Thanks for the update,
Did he tell you what implant he is going to use and why?
I think in the next ten years you could rely on students of DR.Eid and Kramer. I am sure they are teaching many up and coming surgeons.

[username_taken29]

Thanks harder.....he did not tell me which model he would use...I suspect that will be a decision he makes just pre surgery

So I read through all 31 pages using "replacement" as the search function. Feeling a little more comfortable but still kind of concerned about the higher rate of infection 2nd time around...especially considering I may need 3 or 4 of these guys in my lifetime...Really hoping to get some more thoughts on this....

[pockie]

Hey there,

Seems like you had a great consultation.

Why is he saying he won't be around in 10 years, is he planning on retiring anytime soon?

Regarding the length of stay that you mentioned, he also said 3 days should be enough. If you have no issues financially, I'd suggest staying the full 2 weeks. After the first week when you're healed up well, you could even go sightseeing and exploring the city. NYC is a great city, and being in such a nice city made the whole experience more enjoyable.

The first week I booked a room at the Bentley Hotel, which is literally a few steps away from Dr. Eid's office, so that if there are any issues you could go right in. Due to the proximity to his office, I suggest booking the same hotel. The hotel was pretty nice, and it is also in a walking distance from the surgery center, so you have no transportation issue.

The second week I booked a room in another nice hotel in Midtown NYC, which is a completely different area a bit more vibrant and lively, and closer to all the attraction. I enjoyed and treated myself a bit more the second week going to various venues,parks, restaurants etc.. Basically, roaming the big city of New York by myself made this whole experience seem like a great adventure.

[username_taken29]

Hey Pockie....he mentioned the 10 year point in a half joking tone and even laughed a bit after he said it, but I would think there has to be some truth to it. Definitely did not say it definitively or guarantee that he wouldnt be around though...nonetheless I think it's something one has to consider when evaluating next steps after the first implant inevitably stops working

Can I maybe ask you how you got your head around replacement risk and your thought process on it since we are both the same age and quite young.

thanks and yes...I would definitely prefer to stay the full 2 weeks in nyc as well

[pockie]

Hey Pockie....he mentioned the 10 year point in a half joking tone and even laughed a bit after he said it, but I would think there has to be some truth to it. Definitely did not say it definitively or guarantee that he wouldnt be around though...nonetheless I think it's something one has to consider when evaluating next steps after the first implant inevitably stops working

Can I maybe ask you how you got your head around replacement risk and your thought process on it since we are both the same age and quite young.

thanks and yes...I would definitely prefer to stay the full 2 weeks in nyc as well

I figured the implant would work from 5 to 10 years. I'm 29 so my reasoning was that I will be fully functional until I'm at least 35 to 40 years of age with the implant.

I've still got some good years being young left, so I wanted to use them to the max. Clock is ticking, I wouldn't want to struggle with this and just wait
and suffer for the next 10 years, I wanted to fix the issue right away. I was struggling quite a bit so the decision was a no-brainer, regardless of the possible replacement further on.

I'm a bit concerned about what you said about the bigger implant sizes. My implant is 24 cm, so I hope it won't stop working after 2 years - that would be pretty bad. If it does, Dr. Eid should be hopefully still around.
However, if the implant keeps working well, and worst case scenario it stops working in 2 years, I won't regret my decision for a second. This is because being fully functional restores your confidence, removes that nasty anxiety, and even gets rid of that nasty depression that occurs due to being non-functional.

Regarding the replacement surgery - from the research I did the risk for infection is a bit higher, but still extremely small when done by an experienced surgeon. The actual surgery and recovery is easier and quicker than being implanted for the first time from what I read, so I wasn't too concerned about it.

[username_taken29]

I hear you. I feel like I'm in the prime of my life now and firing on all cylinders except in the sex department. I also feel like I'll put a much bigger emphasis on being able to have great sex now vs 30 years down the road.

I'm also working under the assumption that an implant would prob work around 5 years...especially because I would plan to use it quite often! I suppose the 2nd replacement carries a bit of a higher risk but I've read cases where it's gone quite smoothly. My bigger concern is kind of what happens when the 3rd, 4th and 5th replacements are needed? Does the risk of infection just keep increasing each time......it would suck to be in my early 40s and basically be rendered impotent with no other options....I haven't read a single account yet of someone who has had to have 3 replacements and so the fear of the unknown is playing on my mind a bit....

all this said, I take comfort in the fact that patients even younger than us have been implanted. Also there's the possibility that implants last even longer than say 5 years. But then there's also the risk of shorter than 5 years. ...

[username_taken29]

I guess the one other thing I'm looking to get a bit more insight on is the whole concept of infection....yes it sucks but are you absolutely not able to function after getting one?

sounded to me like you would have to wait a period and then a procedure can be performed to remove the infection and install a new device which works...this is a question I should have asked yesterday now that I think about it....

[avlis26]

Hey guys,

I did liked this discussion.. You guys are very opened mind and this topic has covered much interesting points for young guys.
I got implanted only 4 months ago.
I am still relatively young (31), so the thought of "how long will this last?" creeps into the back of my mind from time to time. But, that is unavoidable, and I am at peace and extremely happy with my decision.

In short (no pun intended), I am happy and loving life. I am much more productive and engaged in my work and my professional career, enjoy my job much more, enjoy my leisure time much more, and am not plagued by thoughts of doubt and insecurity. Life is good, and it was one of the best decisions I could have made given my situation.

Implant surgeons will not usually guarantee you any particular life expectancy or warranty on the implant device. But, they do have studies and research statistics on the longevity of the devices, and the longevity is generally pretty good and durability is improving all the time with advances in development.

If my memory is roughly accurate, what I was told is that, based on statistics from implant patients going back many years, about 95% of all devices are functioning after 5 years, about 90% of all devices functioning after 10 years, and anywhere from 50-75% of all devices still working up to 15 years (many older patients have died by that point, so part of the attrition is due to death rather than the device breaking or malfunctioning). They do not have research going back beyond 15 years, but they have many anecdotal cases of men with implant devices still functioning after 15-20 years.

I expect that, given careful use of the device and the advances made in the medical technology, I should (fingers crossed) get at least 15 years and maybe over 20 years of use of the device. After that, it is likely I will need a second implant.

My doc did mention to me that getting a second replacement implant is fairly easy on your body, and that you actually get a bit more length with the second implant due to the natural stretching caused by the use of the first implant.

I hope that is helpful, and I wish you the best! Take care.

[username_taken29]

Thanks for that input....good to know

Yeah, I'm really leaning towards going through with the implant . Pretty much at the point where I just wanna stop worrying about this thing and enjoy things the way they were meant to be (or in the bionic case, even better than regular guys haha)....kind of telling myself that yes there are risks but at the same time I'm putting myself in the hands of one of the top surgeons and would do the same when I eventually need further replacements down the road. ..