Smaller after implant surgery? Here's why.

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Discovernew
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Re: Smaller after implant surgery? Here's why.

Postby Discovernew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:35 am

ElbowRoom wrote:
Discovernew wrote:I really like Clavell and he does mention valid points. But i guess he omitted one of the main reasons for possible length loss: Undersizing. In this case it is an error of the surgeon so it wouldn't be very nice for him to mention it. :)

But other than that he is a very charming guy and i read very good comments about him in the forum (i did not get my implant with him though since rigicon is not available in USA)


Doesn't significant undersizing generally lead to floppy glans? It seems that would be obvious and require revision.

If you're just slightly undersized or slightly oversized, I think most surgeons would call that "in the acceptable range of outcomes", even if we disagree. :?


To answer your comment that "it would be obvious and require a revision".

Look at this "success story" i show below, it is so obvious that the guy was underzised, yet they say its because he has no sexual excitement. Really crazy.

https://youtu.be/ptfUV__TLNE
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

Nico_from_belgium
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Re: Smaller after implant surgery? Here's why.

Postby Nico_from_belgium » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:08 pm

Yeah I'll not be happy with that result!
46 yo, ED since 3 years, tried pills. Venous leakage. Planned to get a coloplast on 30/04/25

Discovernew
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Re: Smaller after implant surgery? Here's why.

Postby Discovernew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:11 pm

Nico_from_belgium wrote:Yeah I'll not be happy with that result!


Sometimes doctors will gaslight you into thinking your bad result is just "because of your anatomy", or that this is normal because you are not excited or whatever.

It happened to me when i had floppy glans due to doctor undersizing, he kept saying it was my anatomy like this and he cannot do anything. Until i got revision and 3cm more, and floppy glans dissappeared.
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

frank66665
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Re: Smaller after implant surgery? Here's why.

Postby frank66665 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:18 pm

Discovernew wrote:
frank66665 wrote:
Discovernew wrote:
Frank, how are you doing nowadays? do you feel that the -1cm implant shortened your length? or you have the same length as before?

hello Discovernew, I'm fine, I fucked twice, the first time I didn't orgasm and I was a little sore, the second time after 10 days I orgasmed easily, I masturbated slowly at 12 days delicately with 2 fingers and I orgasmed, I feel a little discomfort from the tubes that pass around the left testicle that reach the pump, and the angular rectangle of the ms pump, they could have rounded it a bit, it wouldn't have cost them anything, just the 4 rounded edges of the rectangle, evidently they have hundreds of thousands of ms pumps in stock and they don't give a damn that the patient gets discomfort for many months, I haven't lost any size even if the implant is smaller, my cock has a different shape today, no one would notice that I have an implant, aesthetically it is very natural, with the titan it was wide and flat, the touch pump was softer and easier to handle, the ms is harder, it takes a long time to load, but it works better because it doesn't self-inflate, or it does self-inflate the little bit that you don't even feel it, I don't have dog ears and the cylinders are soft, when erect the cylinders are hard as titan, now that I have the implant with the right size I can have sex with the cylinders swollen to 80/90%, with the titan I had to inflate it all because the cylinders were longer, I hope to be able to have sex with the cylinders 100% inflated, I think this will happen around 10 months, I'm on day 52, I can't wait to try it with a paid girl to see how it works, I hope I don't need a revision anymore, if that happens I'll put a malleable, I think it's the best choice for the patient, today everyone pushes the inflatable, I think it's the most convenient choice for the implantologist, I had the replacement with the inflatable because I didn't pay, if I had to pay I would have put a malleable, I can't stand the idea of ​​a healing that lasts up to 1 year, I can't stand the idea that in the meantime it could break, I can't stand the idea of ​​having tubes/wires/and pump between my balls and all the discomfort it causes me, I can't stand the idea that if it were to last 2/3 years the time of rupture is approaching, if I take away the first lost year of healing, I don't see where the convenience is in putting an inflatable, not to mention every day inflating and deflating and keeping it erect for 2 hours in erection, I would be curious to know if among the thousands of urologists / implantologists of our age there is 1 who has a 3-piece implant installed, I believe it does not exist, yet we have implantologists over 50 and 60 years old around the world and I don't think any of them have erectile dysfunction


Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it. It is very interesting how even with -1cm you manage to keep your length. It really surprises me how these implant sizes vs penis sizes work.

I agree that the malleable sounds better in many ways. But really i have no natural engorgement and i am scared i would end up with a penis that looks like a thin pencil. If it wasn't for that, i would seriously consider the malleable.

if the tips are installed at the end of the glans, (too far forward) when you inflate the cylinders they push the tips hard into the glans, this mechanism leads to strangulation of the glans and its possible engorgement, if you notice, when you inflate the system to 60/70% the glans becomes engorged better, because they push less
56, DE since 2010, the pills worked at high doses not well, on 01/23/23 titan one touch 22, Dr. Gabriele Antonini, Replacement from titan to cx 21 with ms pump on 04/03/2025, today I am almost 60 years old and have various pathologies, testosterone

frank66665
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Re: Smaller after implant surgery? Here's why.

Postby frank66665 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:47 pm

Discovernew wrote:
ElbowRoom wrote:
Discovernew wrote:I really like Clavell and he does mention valid points. But i guess he omitted one of the main reasons for possible length loss: Undersizing. In this case it is an error of the surgeon so it wouldn't be very nice for him to mention it. :)

But other than that he is a very charming guy and i read very good comments about him in the forum (i did not get my implant with him though since rigicon is not available in USA)


Doesn't significant undersizing generally lead to floppy glans? It seems that would be obvious and require revision.

If you're just slightly undersized or slightly oversized, I think most surgeons would call that "in the acceptable range of outcomes", even if we disagree. :?


To answer your comment that "it would be obvious and require a revision".

Look at this "success story" i show below, it is so obvious that the guy was underzised, yet they say its because he has no sexual excitement. Really crazy.

https://youtu.be/ptfUV__TLNE

the problem is that no implantologist admits to having made a mistake, (at my expense) I understood that the most difficult thing for an implantologist is to place the tips in the glans at the right point, even if I did the replacement I realize the tips could have been placed 1 cm lower without any problems, instead this time too they are further forward than they should be, fortunately I have a fairly substantial capsule to have had the titan at the end of the glans for 2 years and 3 months, plus the tips of the cx being rounded, and that half a cm that the tips are now lower, now I no longer have the discomfort/pain that I had, but I realize that 1 or half a cm lower would have been more comfortable, the tips in my opinion must be 40 to 50% in the glans, the difficulty in inserting them in the right place and above all finding them in the right place after leaving the operating room, here it is evident that the tips do not enter the glans, I am convinced that the implantologist (not very experienced) placed them in the glans, only that then, after leaving the operating room, he no longer finds them in the glans, I think that some calculations need to be made that inexperienced implantologists cannot do well, and that the usual 5/7 in the world, now do with their eyes closed
56, DE since 2010, the pills worked at high doses not well, on 01/23/23 titan one touch 22, Dr. Gabriele Antonini, Replacement from titan to cx 21 with ms pump on 04/03/2025, today I am almost 60 years old and have various pathologies, testosterone

Discovernew
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Re: Smaller after implant surgery? Here's why.

Postby Discovernew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:51 pm

frank66665 wrote:
Discovernew wrote:
ElbowRoom wrote:
Doesn't significant undersizing generally lead to floppy glans? It seems that would be obvious and require revision.

If you're just slightly undersized or slightly oversized, I think most surgeons would call that "in the acceptable range of outcomes", even if we disagree. :?


To answer your comment that "it would be obvious and require a revision".

Look at this "success story" i show below, it is so obvious that the guy was underzised, yet they say its because he has no sexual excitement. Really crazy.

https://youtu.be/ptfUV__TLNE

the problem is that no implantologist admits to having made a mistake, (at my expense) I understood that the most difficult thing for an implantologist is to place the tips in the glans at the right point, even if I did the replacement I realize the tips could have been placed 1 cm lower without any problems, instead this time too they are further forward than they should be, fortunately I have a fairly substantial capsule to have had the titan at the end of the glans for 2 years and 3 months, plus the tips of the cx being rounded, and that half a cm that the tips are now lower, now I no longer have the discomfort/pain that I had, but I realize that 1 or half a cm lower would have been more comfortable, the tips in my opinion must be 40 to 50% in the glans, the difficulty in inserting them in the right place and above all finding them in the right place after leaving the operating room, here it is evident that the tips do not enter the glans, I am convinced that the implantologist (not very experienced) placed them in the glans, only that then, after leaving the operating room, he no longer finds them in the glans, I think that some calculations need to be made that inexperienced implantologists cannot do well, and that the usual 5/7 in the world, now do with their eyes closed


I agree that no surgeon ever admits to making a mistake. Probably because they do not want to be liable for it.
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

Tokyo_123
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Re: Smaller after implant surgery? Here's why.

Postby Tokyo_123 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:08 am

I feel that I have lost a bit of size. Not a lot tho. Reason is, I was told that I should feel some stretching when I inflate the unit. However, never, not even once have I felt any stretching after inflation.

That said, I believe that I gains a bit of girth, which is more important anyway.
Venous Leakage (which I believe caused by my overuse of the Bathmate VED)

Dr. Clavell, August, 2022. Titan One-Touch, 24cm XL cylinders and trimmed off 0.5cm


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