Stretched length vs VED length

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Discovernew
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby Discovernew » Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:28 am

Cariboo wrote:Six months pre-implant, I measured 6" from the pubic bone. I used stretchers and a VED for the six months and gained 1/2". Immediately post surgery I was 6" again and now, 8 months out, I am back to 6 1/2". The doctor cannot use an oversize implant or permanent internal damage will be done. The same damage you could achieve with the implant inflated for say 24 hours.


Caribou, those preop implant measurements where bone pressed? inside the VED or with a normal erection, or stretched flaccid?
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
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ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

LGXDownunder
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby LGXDownunder » Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:22 am

Doggedly_positive wrote:I'm doing regular stretching in advance of an IPP implant, but am looking for clarification from others who have been through this.
Basically, my stretched length, bone to tip is 7" (17.7 cm), but my VED length is only 5.5" (14 cm).

I presume that stretching lengthwise steals girth and in the VED, stretched girth steals length.

So, my question is, what will the surgeon decide will be my post-op length, sizing his choice accordingly?
If in fact he only decides using the stretched length measurement, will my obsessive cycling post op give me the 7" I want, given that the implant will initially stretch girth over length, at a guess, then once the tunica has stretched to its maximum girth as limited by the implant, it can then stretch longitudinally?

Thanks for any observations.

One thing I noticed in using a VED is that cheaper ones don't always give optimal results. I have an inexpensive but reasonable quality sex toy pump that we've used for years just for fun. But it will not attain anywhere near the length of the medical grade Vacurect device I bought some time after my prostatectomy, when it became apparent that ED would be on ongoing problem. I don't recall exact measurements for the cheaper device, but pre implant I was able to get bone pressed 185mm/7.4 inches with the Vacurect. I would estimate about 20% less with the cheaper device, no matter how much I pumped it. I didn't measure stretched length pre implant but I was about 6 inches naturally erect pre RRP.
70 y.o. married from Sydney Oz. PC and nerve sparing RRP 2022, but still profound ED since. Tried pills, injections, shockwave therapy, VED. Finally implanted Mar 6 2025 AMS 700 LGX 21cm x 12mm, no RTEs, MS pump, Penoscrotal.
Now dealing with recovery.

Discovernew
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby Discovernew » Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:40 am

LGXDownunder wrote:
Doggedly_positive wrote:I'm doing regular stretching in advance of an IPP implant, but am looking for clarification from others who have been through this.
Basically, my stretched length, bone to tip is 7" (17.7 cm), but my VED length is only 5.5" (14 cm).

I presume that stretching lengthwise steals girth and in the VED, stretched girth steals length.

So, my question is, what will the surgeon decide will be my post-op length, sizing his choice accordingly?
If in fact he only decides using the stretched length measurement, will my obsessive cycling post op give me the 7" I want, given that the implant will initially stretch girth over length, at a guess, then once the tunica has stretched to its maximum girth as limited by the implant, it can then stretch longitudinally?

Thanks for any observations.

One thing I noticed in using a VED is that cheaper ones don't always give optimal results. I have an inexpensive but reasonable quality sex toy pump that we've used for years just for fun. But it will not attain anywhere near the length of the medical grade Vacurect device I bought some time after my prostatectomy, when it became apparent that ED would be on ongoing problem. I don't recall exact measurements for the cheaper device, but pre implant I was able to get bone pressed 185mm/7.4 inches with the Vacurect. I would estimate about 20% less with the cheaper device, no matter how much I pumped it. I didn't measure stretched length pre implant but I was about 6 inches naturally erect pre RRP.


What do you think is the difference between these two? The strength of the pump, or something else?

I got an electric one from Amazon and I can barely use it at minimum settings. I can't imagine using it all the way to the max.
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

LGXDownunder
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby LGXDownunder » Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:54 am

Discovernew wrote:
LGXDownunder wrote:
Doggedly_positive wrote:I'm doing regular stretching in advance of an IPP implant, but am looking for clarification from others who have been through this.
Basically, my stretched length, bone to tip is 7" (17.7 cm), but my VED length is only 5.5" (14 cm).

I presume that stretching lengthwise steals girth and in the VED, stretched girth steals length.

So, my question is, what will the surgeon decide will be my post-op length, sizing his choice accordingly?
If in fact he only decides using the stretched length measurement, will my obsessive cycling post op give me the 7" I want, given that the implant will initially stretch girth over length, at a guess, then once the tunica has stretched to its maximum girth as limited by the implant, it can then stretch longitudinally?

Thanks for any observations.

One thing I noticed in using a VED is that cheaper ones don't always give optimal results. I have an inexpensive but reasonable quality sex toy pump that we've used for years just for fun. But it will not attain anywhere near the length of the medical grade Vacurect device I bought some time after my prostatectomy, when it became apparent that ED would be on ongoing problem. I don't recall exact measurements for the cheaper device, but pre implant I was able to get bone pressed 185mm/7.4 inches with the Vacurect. I would estimate about 20% less with the cheaper device, no matter how much I pumped it. I didn't measure stretched length pre implant but I was about 6 inches naturally erect pre RRP.


What do you think is the difference between these two? The strength of the pump, or something else?

I got an electric one from Amazon and I can barely use it at minimum settings. I can't imagine using it all the way to the max.

What I noticed is that the pump bulb on the cheaper one gets very hard when it reaches the maximum that I can get it to. After that I can't squeeze it any further. The Vacurect operates differently. It's basically two sliding cylinders that create the vacuum and seems to attain higher pressure. At one point I was looking at an electric one that collapsed down for travel, but I never got around to buying it.
70 y.o. married from Sydney Oz. PC and nerve sparing RRP 2022, but still profound ED since. Tried pills, injections, shockwave therapy, VED. Finally implanted Mar 6 2025 AMS 700 LGX 21cm x 12mm, no RTEs, MS pump, Penoscrotal.
Now dealing with recovery.

Discovernew
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby Discovernew » Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:03 pm

LGXDownunder wrote:
Discovernew wrote:
LGXDownunder wrote:One thing I noticed in using a VED is that cheaper ones don't always give optimal results. I have an inexpensive but reasonable quality sex toy pump that we've used for years just for fun. But it will not attain anywhere near the length of the medical grade Vacurect device I bought some time after my prostatectomy, when it became apparent that ED would be on ongoing problem. I don't recall exact measurements for the cheaper device, but pre implant I was able to get bone pressed 185mm/7.4 inches with the Vacurect. I would estimate about 20% less with the cheaper device, no matter how much I pumped it. I didn't measure stretched length pre implant but I was about 6 inches naturally erect pre RRP.


What do you think is the difference between these two? The strength of the pump, or something else?

I got an electric one from Amazon and I can barely use it at minimum settings. I can't imagine using it all the way to the max.

What I noticed is that the pump bulb on the cheaper one gets very hard when it reaches the maximum that I can get it to. After that I can't squeeze it any further. The Vacurect operates differently. It's basically two sliding cylinders that create the vacuum and seems to attain higher pressure. At one point I was looking at an electric one that collapsed down for travel, but I never got around to buying it.


Wow, what do you mean by "collapsed down"? Do you have any links to it? Never seen such design and I'd love to have something travel friendly
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

LGXDownunder
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby LGXDownunder » Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 pm

Discovernew wrote:Wow, what do you mean by "collapsed down"? Do you have any links to it? Never seen such design and I'd love to have something travel friendly

High Rize Rechargeable Traveller Penis Pump

USB rechargeable. Looks good but I haven't seen it in real life. These guys are in Australia, based in Melbourne, but also sell in USD and appear to ship to the USA. I tried entering a dummy order in USD and it gave me shipping options as - Standard 10-15 business days $6.99, DHL Express 2-4 business days $12.99. I've used them here for other stuff and had no issues:
https://www.wildsecrets.com/p/233190/high-rize-11-traveller-penis-pump?srsltid=AfmBOoo96AiSb3lraEV6xUDJG_Un89aL6HRJHrB8TEzL5BDfB9vm2E9z

Might be worth seeing if you can get it locally first. I couldn't find it on Amazon.
70 y.o. married from Sydney Oz. PC and nerve sparing RRP 2022, but still profound ED since. Tried pills, injections, shockwave therapy, VED. Finally implanted Mar 6 2025 AMS 700 LGX 21cm x 12mm, no RTEs, MS pump, Penoscrotal.
Now dealing with recovery.

Discovernew
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby Discovernew » Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:59 am

LGXDownunder wrote:
Discovernew wrote:Wow, what do you mean by "collapsed down"? Do you have any links to it? Never seen such design and I'd love to have something travel friendly

High Rize Rechargeable Traveller Penis Pump

USB rechargeable. Looks good but I haven't seen it in real life. These guys are in Australia, based in Melbourne, but also sell in USD and appear to ship to the USA. I tried entering a dummy order in USD and it gave me shipping options as - Standard 10-15 business days $6.99, DHL Express 2-4 business days $12.99. I've used them here for other stuff and had no issues:
https://www.wildsecrets.com/p/233190/high-rize-11-traveller-penis-pump?srsltid=AfmBOoo96AiSb3lraEV6xUDJG_Un89aL6HRJHrB8TEzL5BDfB9vm2E9z

Might be worth seeing if you can get it locally first. I couldn't find it on Amazon.


ohh, i see so you can break it into multiple parts, that looks like a great idea, especially if you are traveling and don't want to have an obvious penis pump in your luggage in case it is inspected. Haven't seen that option before
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

Doggedly_positive
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby Doggedly_positive » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:55 am

Finally got my Rigicon 10X implant yesterday.
The surgeon explained that he used my stretched length (17 cm) to size the implant, which is good.
That finally answered my post question.
RALP with 75% nerve sparing 10/24.
Some tumescence from 5 weeks post op. Erection improved with pills, stalling @ 60%
Keen to get frisky with young wife again. Implanted Rigicon 10X 20 cm + 1 cm RTE mid April 25.

Discovernew
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby Discovernew » Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:47 am

Doggedly_positive wrote:Finally got my Rigicon 10X implant yesterday.
The surgeon explained that he used my stretched length (17 cm) to size the implant, which is good.
That finally answered my post question.


Hi Doggedly_positive, doctors actually don't use your stretched external length to choose the size of the implant. They choose the implant size using a measurement tool during dilation. They take your proximal + distal size and add them up together. In fact many doctors don't know or even care what your stretched length is, as that doesn't affect the implant size they will use. But they stretched length is used as a predictor of what your final result will look like when you recover. Hope that makes sense.

In fact, you will probably see for yourself, your penis length is shorter at max inflation than it is as let's say, 60-80% (many people reported that including myself), as at max inflation you are ussually getting more girth at the cost of length.
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

Cariboo
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Re: Stretched length vs VED length

Postby Cariboo » Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:40 am

Discovernew wrote:
Cariboo wrote:Six months pre-implant, I measured 6" from the pubic bone. I used stretchers and a VED for the six months and gained 1/2". Immediately post surgery I was 6" again and now, 8 months out, I am back to 6 1/2". The doctor cannot use an oversize implant or permanent internal damage will be done. The same damage you could achieve with the implant inflated for say 24 hours.


Caribou, those preop implant measurements where bone pressed? inside the VED or with a normal erection, or stretched flaccid?


Yes, bone pressed. Inside the VED or with Trimix injection erection. These were more repeatable then flaccid stretching.
I am 72, ED for 25 years, Viagra then Cialis, then Trimix, then Trimix + daily Cialis. AMS 700 LGX installed June 6, 2024-21cm + 3 RTE


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