How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
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Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
My Titan expands 2.5 centimeters in length
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Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
Gt1956 wrote:JohnHC is correct. Download the AMS "owners manual". It clearly says to subtract 2cm from the measured length for the LGX. Its 2cm because not all of the implants length is expandable. I specifically asked my drs assistant that is in the sugery room if my dr does the subtraction. She denies it but I suspect he announces the size with the 2cm already subtracted. No secrets here. It IS in the manual.
I actually found this owners manual. But i am not sure that's exactly what it means. Also it says "some physicians" and not all.
"Note: Measuring both directions from one of the stay sutures provides consistency. However, when using LGX devices, some physicians choose to measure distally from the distal edge of a 2 cm corporotomy and proximally from the proximal end ofa 2 cm corporotomy for a more optimal sizing of the device"
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/14271 ... =14#manual
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
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ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc
My Implant Journal - Click Here
ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc
Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
I requested the Lgx before implementation because I figured if the doc under sizes me it would make up the difference and it was poz to have stretch in girth as well, I’ve been really happy with the Lgx although I no longer feel “ the stretch “ when I cycle, its been 4+ years and maybe its not filling quite as well or more likely my penis has stretched a bit too compensate ? I will say I differ from some here for me there is over an inch growth between flaccid and erection
The lgx has more shrinkage during non use, it mimics our natural function a bit.
The lgx has more shrinkage during non use, it mimics our natural function a bit.
67years,fighting ed for over twenty years. A sever break, vit E, pataba, Viagra, massage Ved cilas, and I'm tired- throwing in the towel, Op for implant Mar 18, 2021 AMS LGX 18 x12 + 1 3cm RTE, gained girth and length, very glad I took the hard step.
Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
I think I was oversized with my LGX implant, it took 6 months before I could get past an hour fully inflated without pain and discomfort in my glans.
My internal measurements according to my surgery documents were 10cm proximal and 11cm distal and my doc put a LGX 18cm with 3cm rear tip extenders which equals - 21cm but not accounting for the LGX expansion.
While I was going through the process of getting my implant my military urologist doc Army Major Shane Barney said his go to implant was the CX and that was probably the implant that I would get but during surgery my doc and the AMS rep changed it to the LGX. My doc did a great job, especially suturing the implant tubes, keeping them from poking out which could interfere with sex.
The LGX does work great and I'm very happy that I got the implant, but I think the CX would have worked better, for my measurements.
If my LGX breaks, I'm gonna ask for a CX.
SWorks
My internal measurements according to my surgery documents were 10cm proximal and 11cm distal and my doc put a LGX 18cm with 3cm rear tip extenders which equals - 21cm but not accounting for the LGX expansion.
While I was going through the process of getting my implant my military urologist doc Army Major Shane Barney said his go to implant was the CX and that was probably the implant that I would get but during surgery my doc and the AMS rep changed it to the LGX. My doc did a great job, especially suturing the implant tubes, keeping them from poking out which could interfere with sex.
The LGX does work great and I'm very happy that I got the implant, but I think the CX would have worked better, for my measurements.
If my LGX breaks, I'm gonna ask for a CX.
SWorks
Age 67, Garden Ridge Texas, Boston Scientific Rezum procedure for benign enlarged prostate 19 May 21, AMS LGX 18cm with 3cm RT's installed 5 Nov 2021 by Major Dr Shane Barney, BAMC, San Antonio, Texas, Married 36 years.
DOD Pg 131, Faces Pg 27
DOD Pg 131, Faces Pg 27
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Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
cbinspok wrote:I requested the Lgx before implementation because I figured if the doc under sizes me it would make up the difference and it was poz to have stretch in girth as well, I’ve been really happy with the Lgx although I no longer feel “ the stretch “ when I cycle, its been 4+ years and maybe its not filling quite as well or more likely my penis has stretched a bit too compensate ? I will say I differ from some here for me there is over an inch growth between flaccid and erection
The lgx has more shrinkage during non use, it mimics our natural function a bit.
Did you gain more total length during these 4+ years? If so, how much?
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here
ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc
My Implant Journal - Click Here
ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc
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Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
SWorks17 wrote:I think I was oversized with my LGX implant, it took 6 months before I could get past an hour fully inflated without pain and discomfort in my glans.
My internal measurements according to my surgery documents were 10cm proximal and 11cm distal and my doc put a LGX 18cm with 3cm rear tip extenders which equals - 21cm but not accounting for the LGX expansion.
While I was going through the process of getting my implant my military urologist doc Army Major Shane Barney said his go to implant was the CX and that was probably the implant that I would get but during surgery my doc and the AMS rep changed it to the LGX. My doc did a great job, especially suturing the implant tubes, keeping them from poking out which could interfere with sex.
The LGX does work great and I'm very happy that I got the implant, but I think the CX would have worked better, for my measurements.
If my LGX breaks, I'm gonna ask for a CX.
SWorks
I'm curious also if you gained any length during these 3 years using the LGX? Or not at all.
And is there any reason you would want to change to the CX now if the pain is already gone?
Also curious what you meant by "suturing the implant tubes, keeping them from poking out which could interfere with sex."
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here
ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc
My Implant Journal - Click Here
ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc
Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
Discovernew wrote:SWorks17 wrote:I think I was oversized with my LGX implant, it took 6 months before I could get past an hour fully inflated without pain and discomfort in my glans.
My internal measurements according to my surgery documents were 10cm proximal and 11cm distal and my doc put a LGX 18cm with 3cm rear tip extenders which equals - 21cm but not accounting for the LGX expansion.
While I was going through the process of getting my implant my military urologist doc Army Major Shane Barney said his go to implant was the CX and that was probably the implant that I would get but during surgery my doc and the AMS rep changed it to the LGX. My doc did a great job, especially suturing the implant tubes, keeping them from poking out which could interfere with sex.
The LGX does work great and I'm very happy that I got the implant, but I think the CX would have worked better, for my measurements.
If my LGX breaks, I'm gonna ask for a CX.
SWorks
I'm curious also if you gained any length during these 3 years using the LGX? Or not at all.
And is there any reason you would want to change to the CX now if the pain is already gone?
Also curious what you meant by "suturing the implant tubes, keeping them from poking out which could interfere with sex."
Discover, I just got back to my original size after the implant, it did take a while, when I started cycling the implant I was probably 5 inches at best but after 6 months I was back to 6.25 inches, I don't really think that the LGX can increase your size.
Discover, for my Bionic dick to get really stiff without any bending I have to pump at least to 90% and 100% the way my wife likes it. She likes it steel rod hard for penetration. It is difficult to have PIV sex if I pump below 90%, I get too much flex in my shaft.
I still have some glans pain if I leave it pumped more than 90% for 1.5 hours. My wife likes for me to be pumped up and ready for sex ahead of time, so when we start foreplay, I'm already ready.
I think that if I had got the CX, I wouldn't have had the long term issues with glans pain.
I'm not sure if I'm having any of the erosion that guys talk about. (Because I think I'm oversized) I guess that would be the tips of the implant pushing too far up into the glans.
Discover, I've seen surgery videos when the urology doc installs the implant that they will suture down the tubes where they come out of the scrotum from the pump to keep them from riding up on the shaft of the penis. I'm not positive that's what Dr Barney did, but I don't feel any tubes at the base of my penis, so I'm thinking that he did tack them down.
I hope that I helped with your questions
Feel free to PM me
SWorks
Age 67, Garden Ridge Texas, Boston Scientific Rezum procedure for benign enlarged prostate 19 May 21, AMS LGX 18cm with 3cm RT's installed 5 Nov 2021 by Major Dr Shane Barney, BAMC, San Antonio, Texas, Married 36 years.
DOD Pg 131, Faces Pg 27
DOD Pg 131, Faces Pg 27
Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
SWorks, how far into the glans are the tips ? Mine are about two thirds up into the glans. I've been cycling for 2 weeks and have minor glans pain during PIV. Hoping that's not too far into the glans.
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SWorks17 wrote:I'm not sure if I'm having any of the erosion that guys talk about. (Because I think I'm oversized) I guess that would be the tips of the implant pushing too far up into the glans.
Feb 2025 - 58 yo, 38 with greatest wife ever
AMS CX, Tenacio, Dr Broghammer (excellent) - pre-op L:7", post-op @ 3 mos L: 6.75" G: 5.5"
2 wks pain, cycling-sex-lifting @ 7 wks, only minor discomfort @ 10 wks, felt like 'new normal' @ ? mos
AMS CX, Tenacio, Dr Broghammer (excellent) - pre-op L:7", post-op @ 3 mos L: 6.75" G: 5.5"
2 wks pain, cycling-sex-lifting @ 7 wks, only minor discomfort @ 10 wks, felt like 'new normal' @ ? mos
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Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
SWorks17 wrote:Discovernew wrote:SWorks17 wrote:I think I was oversized with my LGX implant, it took 6 months before I could get past an hour fully inflated without pain and discomfort in my glans.
My internal measurements according to my surgery documents were 10cm proximal and 11cm distal and my doc put a LGX 18cm with 3cm rear tip extenders which equals - 21cm but not accounting for the LGX expansion.
While I was going through the process of getting my implant my military urologist doc Army Major Shane Barney said his go to implant was the CX and that was probably the implant that I would get but during surgery my doc and the AMS rep changed it to the LGX. My doc did a great job, especially suturing the implant tubes, keeping them from poking out which could interfere with sex.
The LGX does work great and I'm very happy that I got the implant, but I think the CX would have worked better, for my measurements.
If my LGX breaks, I'm gonna ask for a CX.
SWorks
I'm curious also if you gained any length during these 3 years using the LGX? Or not at all.
And is there any reason you would want to change to the CX now if the pain is already gone?
Also curious what you meant by "suturing the implant tubes, keeping them from poking out which could interfere with sex."
Discover, I just got back to my original size after the implant, it did take a while, when I started cycling the implant I was probably 5 inches at best but after 6 months I was back to 6.25 inches, I don't really think that the LGX can increase your size.
Discover, for my Bionic dick to get really stiff without any bending I have to pump at least to 90% and 100% the way my wife likes it. She likes it steel rod hard for penetration. It is difficult to have PIV sex if I pump below 90%, I get too much flex in my shaft.
I still have some glans pain if I leave it pumped more than 90% for 1.5 hours. My wife likes for me to be pumped up and ready for sex ahead of time, so when we start foreplay, I'm already ready.
I think that if I had got the CX, I wouldn't have had the long term issues with glans pain.
I'm not sure if I'm having any of the erosion that guys talk about. (Because I think I'm oversized) I guess that would be the tips of the implant pushing too far up into the glans.
Discover, I've seen surgery videos when the urology doc installs the implant that they will suture down the tubes where they come out of the scrotum from the pump to keep them from riding up on the shaft of the penis. I'm not positive that's what Dr Barney did, but I don't feel any tubes at the base of my penis, so I'm thinking that he did tack them down.
I hope that I helped with your questions
Feel free to PM me
SWorks
Hi Sworks! i very much appreciate your detailed response! After reading your comments i got some thoughts.
1- Yes, it's true that most likely a CX will require less pumps to achieve the same stiffness. So if that's something that bothers you (taking too long to get ready with the lgx) probably that would make a difference.
2- When i do the math, you gained 1.25inches over 6 months (despite the final result being the same as your pre op length), 1.25 inches is almost exactly the amount that the LGX can expand (3cm). It makes me wonder, if you had a CX in the first place, maybe you wouldn't have recovered all of your natural length and you would be shorter today? I guess we will never know for sure.
3- How long does it take you to get to that stiffness? i mean how many pumps or how many minutes of constant pumping. I know some CX/titan users say with just 20 pumps they are ready.
4- I do agree that if you already had the lgx for so long, your penis probably already expanded all that it could. So in a revision just getting a cx to keep the same size but faster inflation /better stiffness would make sense.
About the tubing, i know some surgeons remove the excess tubing by trimming it and reconnecting it, to avoid redundancy on your penis/scrotum. Other surgeons leave it at the preconnected lengths and then the tubes are doing long routes along your shaft or scrotum which could be felt.
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here
ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc
My Implant Journal - Click Here
ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc
Re: How do the surgeons account for the LGX 3cm length expansion?
Discovernew wrote:cbinspok wrote:I requested the Lgx before implementation because I figured if the doc under sizes me it would make up the difference and it was poz to have stretch in girth as well, I’ve been really happy with the Lgx although I no longer feel “ the stretch “ when I cycle, its been 4+ years and maybe its not filling quite as well or more likely my penis has stretched a bit too compensate ? I will say I differ from some here for me there is over an inch growth between flaccid and erection
The lgx has more shrinkage during non use, it mimics our natural function a bit.
Did you gain more total length during these 4+ years? If so, how much
I did over the next 16 months after impact surgery, I got back every about an inch and half post surgery. Im still down, .35”from my youthful measure before ten years of Ed.
67years,fighting ed for over twenty years. A sever break, vit E, pataba, Viagra, massage Ved cilas, and I'm tired- throwing in the towel, Op for implant Mar 18, 2021 AMS LGX 18 x12 + 1 3cm RTE, gained girth and length, very glad I took the hard step.