Hello all,
My size before losing my prostate was a bit over 5inch or 6 inches if I pressed the ruler through the pubic fat and to the bone. Mind you am 35-40 pounds overweight so there is some good fat there.
After surgery and since they couldn't preserve any nerves I lost all erections. I tried Invicorp injections and I was able to achieve only a 8cm/3.1inch erection (without pressing the ruler down to the pubic bone) which shocked me. I couldn't believe how much size I lost. I am panicking at this point.
I am at the level where micro-penis starts BUT when I stretch my penis with my hand I comfortably pass 8cm and I max out at around 10/10.5cm without feeling any pain so I guess this is a better indicator of my current size?
I want to regain back the inch that I lost or most of it. The visual difference is significant. I have thought of pumping the recommended (here in UK at least) 10mins a day for 2-3 months just to see if this can help the tissue expand closer to what I used to have.
My andrologist, and Dr. Eid apparently, do not believe that pumping does anything to you. My andrologist said that other than the size that you lose at the beginning he doesn't buy at all the theory of atrophy and that you will keep losing size unless you pump. He says there is little evidence to back this up and therefore he does not recommend pumping.
At the same time I see many guys who claim that they have gained back their size however their accounts often times sound suspect and lack important details.
How many guys here, who lost their prostate, all nerves (this is an important point) and thus became fully impotent were able to get back some size with pumping? If you are in this category are you absolutely sure that you gained back size? how are you measuring yourself? when are you measuring yourself? Measuring right after pumping may not be a good indicator of actual size.
I am desperate for some solution. If pumping fails am seriously considering RestoreX which is backed by a clinical study so it "should" help.
Can pumping help me get back my size?
Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
Yes, it can help. However, your results may vary.
Pumping can also help keep the blood flow, especially if you lack natural erections.
I regained most of my size loss from Peyronies. I lost well over an inch in length and girth.
I pumped for 15-20 minutes, twice daily for eight months. I stopped when my wife complained about my size.
I would warn however that when pumping the size of your pumped penis in the tube is about a size larger than what you can achieve with a natural erection.
Here's what I mean by a size larger. Let's say your natural erection is 5.1 inches. (national average)
When you are pumping in the tube, likely your penis will stretch to 5.6 to 5.75 inches. But when you go to have an erection it will only measure 5.1 inches.
Pumping can also help keep the blood flow, especially if you lack natural erections.
I regained most of my size loss from Peyronies. I lost well over an inch in length and girth.
I pumped for 15-20 minutes, twice daily for eight months. I stopped when my wife complained about my size.
I would warn however that when pumping the size of your pumped penis in the tube is about a size larger than what you can achieve with a natural erection.
Here's what I mean by a size larger. Let's say your natural erection is 5.1 inches. (national average)
When you are pumping in the tube, likely your penis will stretch to 5.6 to 5.75 inches. But when you go to have an erection it will only measure 5.1 inches.
Struggled with ED/PE for years.
Started using Trimix in May 2022 with very good results.
Started using Trimix in May 2022 with very good results.
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Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
Hi Archetype,
Yep, me too, fully impotent but from losing prostate and bladder to cancer. It’s been 7 years injecting and VED and no sign of that lost length…… all temporary. I don’t plan to try any of the traction devices but if they work for you please let me know.
Yep, me too, fully impotent but from losing prostate and bladder to cancer. It’s been 7 years injecting and VED and no sign of that lost length…… all temporary. I don’t plan to try any of the traction devices but if they work for you please let me know.
2017: Bladder cancer, RC with IC. No erections. Use Ring, VED, Trimix.
Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
Conesus7676 wrote:Hi Archetype,
Yep, me too, fully impotent but from losing prostate and bladder to cancer. It’s been 7 years injecting and VED and no sign of that lost length…… all temporary. I don’t plan to try any of the traction devices but if they work for you please let me know.
You haven't been able to get back any size from pumping have you?
sogwap wrote:Yes, it can help. However, your results may vary.
Pumping can also help keep the blood flow, especially if you lack natural erections.
I regained most of my size loss from Peyronies. I lost well over an inch in length and girth.
I pumped for 15-20 minutes, twice daily for eight months. I stopped when my wife complained about my size.
I would warn however that when pumping the size of your pumped penis in the tube is about a size larger than what you can achieve with a natural erection.
Here's what I mean by a size larger. Let's say your natural erection is 5.1 inches. (national average)
When you are pumping in the tube, likely your penis will stretch to 5.6 to 5.75 inches. But when you go to have an erection it will only measure 5.1 inches.
Your reply is not relevant to what am asking though, with respect.
I lost my size due to prostatectomy, that left no nerves behind, not due to peyronies and thus I am looking to see if my size can be recovered somewhat given my circumstances. I didn't have a large size to begin with so any cm counts.
If you were able to get back your size from pumping this won't be relevant to my situation as you lost size for a very different reason.
I see many guys claiming that they were able to get back x amount but their accounts are very suspect and not looking to spend months trying to grow my dick if its futile.
I want to hear ONLY from people who lost size due to radical prostatectomy (non nerve sparing). People who were left 100% impotent. Everyone else's account won't be relevant.
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Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
I have severe ED as a result of over 20 years of diabetes. However, Thanks to pumping to overcome my ED and stretching for a number of years, I did gain over 1” in erect girth and over 3/4” in erect length. But since I have not gone through prostate surgery, I will not bore you with the details.
Age 82
Diabetic
Pumping
Started Trimix injections 8/'11
Diabetic
Pumping
Started Trimix injections 8/'11
Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
Archetype wrote:Your reply is not relevant to what am asking though, with respect.
I lost my size due to prostatectomy, that left no nerves behind, not due to peyronies and thus I am looking to see if my size can be recovered somewhat given my circumstances. I didn't have a large size to begin with so any cm counts
Relevant or not, You should ask the surgeon who is going to do your implant.
Hopefully, he has done hundreds of implants. And can give you an idea of what to expect and how effective pumping is in restoring size.
Struggled with ED/PE for years.
Started using Trimix in May 2022 with very good results.
Started using Trimix in May 2022 with very good results.
Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
Moving onto another method other than pumping.
What I have experienced (after prostate surgery and no natural anything after that) is that even though pumping had helped with girth and maybe holding the line on length, what it cannot help with is the deterioration of the root and inner corposa behind the visible part of the penis. Pumping only expands the visible penis, not the rest behind and between the legs. Remember in your heydays when a hardon felt like your penis went well beyond the visible portion and was almost the same girth and hardness? That inner part will wither after surgery or ED (and it also can hamper keeping your penis angle up since that part of scaffolding is no longer helping keep things at least pointing straight out).
My solution, if you are just after prostate surgery, is to start using injections that will expand all of the shaft for many hours each day to keep the inner part from shrinking permanently.
Also, a cheaper way to do this is to use a Misoprost 200 tablet dissolved and splooshed in the urethra. That'll keep blood flowing and things expanding for hours with no ache or pain.
It may or may not be good enough for intercourse -- depends on your health and circulation I suppose. But it will give you good. regular, daily expansions all along the shaft all the way back. Also, Misoprost is less than a $1 per pill ... way better than any other method.
What I have experienced (after prostate surgery and no natural anything after that) is that even though pumping had helped with girth and maybe holding the line on length, what it cannot help with is the deterioration of the root and inner corposa behind the visible part of the penis. Pumping only expands the visible penis, not the rest behind and between the legs. Remember in your heydays when a hardon felt like your penis went well beyond the visible portion and was almost the same girth and hardness? That inner part will wither after surgery or ED (and it also can hamper keeping your penis angle up since that part of scaffolding is no longer helping keep things at least pointing straight out).
My solution, if you are just after prostate surgery, is to start using injections that will expand all of the shaft for many hours each day to keep the inner part from shrinking permanently.
Also, a cheaper way to do this is to use a Misoprost 200 tablet dissolved and splooshed in the urethra. That'll keep blood flowing and things expanding for hours with no ache or pain.
It may or may not be good enough for intercourse -- depends on your health and circulation I suppose. But it will give you good. regular, daily expansions all along the shaft all the way back. Also, Misoprost is less than a $1 per pill ... way better than any other method.
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.
Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
I had radical PT back in 2020 and still have not been able to regain my original size - not even while pumping. I was originally an average 6 inches but after prostate removal the most I can get during pumping is a little less than 5 inches. I lose my erection as soon as I deflate the vacuum.
I have noticed I can get a better erection from pumping if I take 50 mg sildenafil - I cannot take a full 100 mg sildenafil because I can see everything red. Sometimes I can get a semi hard-on (about 3 inches) without pumping but it is not good enough even for masturbation or for penetration. I pump to keep the blood flow to my penis. One urologist once told me that I have lost too much collagen because I did not start pumping exercises right after my prostate surgery.
Injections can also give you scarring along the shaft and to me they did not work because my penis was bent at the tip after injecting - later I found out that the glands get their blood flow from being excited and not by the trimix injection itself.
The prostactectomy took all the spontaneity from our love life so now I am a 63 yr old living like a 100 yr old guy.
I have noticed I can get a better erection from pumping if I take 50 mg sildenafil - I cannot take a full 100 mg sildenafil because I can see everything red. Sometimes I can get a semi hard-on (about 3 inches) without pumping but it is not good enough even for masturbation or for penetration. I pump to keep the blood flow to my penis. One urologist once told me that I have lost too much collagen because I did not start pumping exercises right after my prostate surgery.
Injections can also give you scarring along the shaft and to me they did not work because my penis was bent at the tip after injecting - later I found out that the glands get their blood flow from being excited and not by the trimix injection itself.
The prostactectomy took all the spontaneity from our love life so now I am a 63 yr old living like a 100 yr old guy.
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Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
Unfortunately, you will probably not get your original size back. During the surgery they remove approximately 1.5" of the urethra (the part that runs through the prostate) and re-attach just below the bladder. I started pumping a couple of months after surgery, gently at first, as to not rip the suture apart. I was about 6" before surgery and am under 5" now even after pumping several times a week for two years. Pumping definitely helps the situation... before I started, I barely had enough to grab on for peeing. The urethra is pretty stretchy, but only to a certain extent. It's one of those things they don't seem to mention before the surgery... I guess figuring you won't get erections anyway. But then guys, being resourceful as we are, come on forums like this and learn that there are ways to get erections, even if not natural.
Age 67. RALP Jan-2023. Non-nerve sparing.
VED exercise a few days a week, Trimix (30-1-10), ~24 units.
Bending trauma around age 50, resulting in mild Peyronies (VED use has helped).
VED exercise a few days a week, Trimix (30-1-10), ~24 units.
Bending trauma around age 50, resulting in mild Peyronies (VED use has helped).
Re: Can pumping help me get back my size?
Yes I had a non-nerve sparing RRP. No, I never regained any natural erection ability. Yes I lost size. I did do some VED therapy. Using the VED I did regain length, although I don't think I ever regained my full pre-surgery length. I certainly wasn't as conscientious about it as I could have been. In my case much of the regained pre-surgery length was temporary and lost when active VED therapy stopped. I still do it on occasion but I'm not at all consistent or regular with it. I do use injections which I think is great therapy in itself to prevent further loss.
I never measured myself pre-surgery so I can't give accurate an accurate assessment. Pre-surgery my wife would occasionally complain when I'd hit her cervix. She hasn't had that issue since. With a full injection erection and without recent VED therapy I'm a bone pressed 6 1/4". Measuring a bone pressed injection erection during a period of regular VED therapy I can get 7" or a hair more. The wife has no interest in the 7" size so I don't worry about it.
Bottom line; yes, VED therapy helps but most of the regained length seems temporary unless you faithfully continue the VED therapy. That's my experience as one that began VED therapy fairly soon after the RP, and injections almost as soon. If you've had additional size loss from atrophy due to not starting VED or injection therapy in a timely manner, this loss might be able to be more permanently regained through VED therapy. I just don't know. If you're size challenged to start with you my obtain significant benefit from regular continued VED therapy.
All of that is just my non-medical professional opinion based only on my own experience and suppositions. So not worth much!
I never measured myself pre-surgery so I can't give accurate an accurate assessment. Pre-surgery my wife would occasionally complain when I'd hit her cervix. She hasn't had that issue since. With a full injection erection and without recent VED therapy I'm a bone pressed 6 1/4". Measuring a bone pressed injection erection during a period of regular VED therapy I can get 7" or a hair more. The wife has no interest in the 7" size so I don't worry about it.
Bottom line; yes, VED therapy helps but most of the regained length seems temporary unless you faithfully continue the VED therapy. That's my experience as one that began VED therapy fairly soon after the RP, and injections almost as soon. If you've had additional size loss from atrophy due to not starting VED or injection therapy in a timely manner, this loss might be able to be more permanently regained through VED therapy. I just don't know. If you're size challenged to start with you my obtain significant benefit from regular continued VED therapy.
All of that is just my non-medical professional opinion based only on my own experience and suppositions. So not worth much!
RRP 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Wehle. Non nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 7 - 16 units. Originally Edex20 or 40, then compounded PGE1 due to cost. Inject. 14 yrs. It works. FL Treasure coast.
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