Updating my situation

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oneperson
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby oneperson » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:52 pm

I went to the doctor with my wife this afternoon. And he has solved all our doubdts.

Begining with pain/possible oversize/dimensions question. It appears that I have 8 or 9 cm inside my body. So I have a very deep crus, much more than average. With a 20 cm + 1cm RTE. that means I have 12 or 13 cm outside of the body. The strech test was 10 cm, but I remember my erections in 12/13 cm range. That was what the doctor saw in surgery, he did the procedure in erected, not flaccid state, as, acording to him (and some readings I have found in Internet) is the tendency in at the vanguard surgeons. Furthermore, these surgeons, in case of doubt, tend to give the highest size possible, so if they are in doubt between 20 and 21, they go with 21. That way, they achieve the following:
There is room enough to recover full size. If you go with low range, you limit the chance of recovering.
If your actual maximum size is less (i.e. you have been implanted to reach 13 cm and your actual maximum grow size is 12,5, you can reach 12,5, if you are implanted witn 1 cm less, you will get only 12. The other 0,5cm you never will have, it is manageable by not pumping to maximum.
If despite of everything, you continue having pain, you can always take out 1 cm.

So yes, I am little oversize. The way to go with this without risk is not cycling agressive. I have to feel pain when cycling for streching, but not an unbearable pain. Pump to the exact point where pain begins, pumping with small presses, not full presses to be precise in inflating, and in the very moment the minimun pain appears, stop, hold 15 - 20 minutes, and deflate. Twice a day. As time passes, that point of pain will be more pumps away. He has told me that in one year, I should have recover all or almost all my size.

Meanwhile, to have sex, what I have to do is pump two or 3 pumps less than the paragragh before this. So if I need 30 little pumps to begin feel pain, give just 27 for sex.

My wife has seen the size in the consultant where I didn't feel any pain at all, and have said that the size is less than before the implant, but much more than 3 weeks ago when we tried. And that time, with that size, I was crying in pain. After that, I have pumped to max I am able now (pain so intense that it is impossible to stand for more than five minutes), and has said that that way is almost the same than before implant. So if I only get to that without pain, it would be enough, not need of recover my 12 cm.

Doctor has told us the same word so much time is said here: patient is the key. Almost everybody, if not all, get good results with time.

So maybe tonight, or this weekend at much, I will try to debut with this thing.

I am much happier, animated and confident now.
Implanted September 12nd 2019. Coloplast Titan OTR 20 cm + 1 cm RTE. Dr Cruz (Spain). Liver transplanted. Born in 1967. ED since 24 in different degrees. Pills stopped working in March 2019. Injections caused much pain.

Lost Sheep
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:10 pm

oneperson wrote:So yes, I am little oversize. The way to go with this without risk is not cycling aggressive. I have to feel pain when cycling for streching, but not an unbearable pain. Pump to the exact point where pain begins, pumping with small presses, not full presses to be precise in inflating, and in the very moment the minimum pain appears, stop, hold 15 - 20 minutes, and deflate. Twice a day. As time passes, that point of pain will be more pumps away. He has told me that in one year, I should have recover all or almost all my size.

Yes, as I have written before, the Tunica Albuginea is living tissue. Living tissue can grow. Because the Tunica is tough and fibrous, it resists growing (this is important; if it was stretchy, the rigidity of the erection would be less). But, "training" this tissue with frequent stress (stretching) BELOW the point of injury will encourage changes in dimensions (growth).

Sí, como he escrito antes, la Tunica Albuginea es tejido vivo. El tejido vivo puede crecer. Debido a que la túnica es resistente y fibrosa, resiste el crecimiento (esto es importante; si fuera elástica, la rigidez de la erección sería menor). Pero, "entrenar" este tejido con estrés frecuente (estiramiento) POR DEBAJO del punto de la lesión fomentará cambios en las dimensiones (crecimiento).

Good luck, Oneperson. Buena Suerte

Same to you, MK1965 and Jasona
Lost Sheep
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oneperson
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby oneperson » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:53 pm

Correct Lost Sheep, and thank you.

The Doctor has put an example of a surgery for a knee prothesys needed because arthrosys. Once you recover from surgery, as soon as possible, you need to go into rehabilitation in order to recover the mobility. You have to do the rehab, and feel pain. If not, you never will be able to walk again. And it hurts. But if you go beyond the limit, it not only hurts, but you can also produce an irreversible damage to your knee that don't let you walk again.

In the case of the knee, the pain can be more intense before making damage. The penis and its tissues are much more delicated, so you have to be much more careful. A little pain is good. More than that can be dangerous.

So now, step by step. Maybe I am the one who has bring my problems. My anxiety for recovering size as soon as possible has take me to have more risks than recomended. I have bear really bad pain, thinking it was neccesary. No more.

Things are like they are, need its time. There is no point in trying to accelerate them. You will not benefit, and you can cause damage. Lets give the neccesary time.
Implanted September 12nd 2019. Coloplast Titan OTR 20 cm + 1 cm RTE. Dr Cruz (Spain). Liver transplanted. Born in 1967. ED since 24 in different degrees. Pills stopped working in March 2019. Injections caused much pain.

Waynetho
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby Waynetho » Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:50 am

@oneperson,

You can also take a technique that I've employed almost from the start of cycling. If you are pumping up for intercourse instead of not cycling, and you pump too much and you feel pain, it's not the end of the world and you don't have to totally deflate and start again. Press the deflate button and immediately pop the bulb again to get it back to INFLATE mode.

This way you have let off some excess pressure and then put the valve back in INFLATE or LOCKED mode so no more fluid drains out. Since my AMS 700 CX doesn't auto-deflate and requires some vigorous squeezes to get it to deflate, I lose very little fluid when pressing the deflate button. In my case I give a light squeeze first then squeeze the bulb again to lock it. As long as it's sufficiently rigid for the purpose I'm planning, it should be fine. Don't forget to lock it so it doesn't continue to deflate as you're using it.
64yo, married 43 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

David_R
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby David_R » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:45 am

I agree with Wayne.

Agfa13
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby Agfa13 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:34 pm

Oneperson,

Not sure where I read it, but the pumping recommended is 2X a day, and this is a minimum, so the rest of the day, if you have time, go for max, and it does not have to be the full 20 min recommended.
The concern is for the functionality of the penis (use it or lose it), and as for the size and girth, that is up to you:)
Ag, 58, Maryland
Document with BEFORE/after pics
AMS cx 24cm, Titan malleable, Titan Legacy on 3/2/20 (20cm/bilat 2cm RTE/ 75 cc)
Face pic on pg. 22: names and faces; dick pics on pg 7/41: Dick of day
Smaller dick, but can fuck without fail :lol: :D

oneperson
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby oneperson » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:29 pm

I know Agfa. I do twice a day as minimum, 15-20 minutes each. Most days I go with three times (same 15-20 minutes) and even four. Even in weekends, there are times that with less pressure than the other times, I go for one one hour session, apart from the other 2/3/4 normal pumped.

Today, for example, I have done one 22 minutes session, one 25 minutes session, and in a few minutes, I will go with another 15-20 minutes session more.
Implanted September 12nd 2019. Coloplast Titan OTR 20 cm + 1 cm RTE. Dr Cruz (Spain). Liver transplanted. Born in 1967. ED since 24 in different degrees. Pills stopped working in March 2019. Injections caused much pain.

young_and_impotent
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby young_and_impotent » Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:19 am

@MK1965

That's an incredible and inspiring story! Did your implant not touch the glans before the scar tissue popped?
28 year old with severe lifelong ED.
Implanted in New Delhi on 26/12/19 with AMS CX (15x12) + 4cm RTE
Post op length 4.5 inches from ~ (5.5 to 6) inches. Disappointed!
Wish to have a revision to LGX some day.

Agfa13
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby Agfa13 » Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:13 pm

Wow, this is informative.
When I if I decide to go through with swapping out the malleable I have right now with the 3-piece, I will have to remember this:)!
Pump to the point of pain, but then back off for sex, did I summarize that correctly?
Ag, 58, Maryland
Document with BEFORE/after pics
AMS cx 24cm, Titan malleable, Titan Legacy on 3/2/20 (20cm/bilat 2cm RTE/ 75 cc)
Face pic on pg. 22: names and faces; dick pics on pg 7/41: Dick of day
Smaller dick, but can fuck without fail :lol: :D

Waynetho
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Re: Updating my situation

Postby Waynetho » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:04 pm

Agfa13 wrote:Wow, this is informative.
When I if I decide to go through with swapping out the malleable I have right now with the 3-piece, I will have to remember this:)!
Pump to the point of pain, but then back off for sex, did I summarize that correctly?


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. All you have to do is let off a little pressure in "deflate" mode, then immediately pop the pump back into "inflate" to lock in the remaining pressure
64yo, married 43 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0


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