Yes or No or Wait

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Greg1956
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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby Greg1956 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:37 am

geophd wrote:Greg,

Your insight is particularly valuable because you had normal erections until 30 and then lived with it for 30 years. You say "tried the other options with no success," the debate for young men is what defines "success." And at what point is the amount of success you are getting inferior to the peace of mind and enjoyment of the implant. This is the crux of the entire issue that I think those who are implanted really don't describe well enough.

I imagine a future where implantation is so perfect that men with mild cases of ED elect implantation over any other treatment. Are we there yet?

Pills are imperfect, time dependent, still have difficulty maintaining erections, side effects, costly, become less effective... I won't mention injections... Personally 10 mg cialis daily gives me good erections but I'm straining to keep it erect, as if I can feel the leak and I'm trying to keep up with it. Consequently, sex is a stressor and not a big enjoyment. Is an implant better than that? Would people with implants say: if you can get it up and have sex then don't get an implant? Does that mean that sex with an implant is worse than stressed sex on pills? If it is better than why wouldn't someone get an implant instead of pill? Because it's permanent? So is the ED....

I wish implanted men would put aside everything and consider an ideal implantation, in the erect state while aroused what does it feel like? Does it feel like your natural stiff dick, does it feel like when you used to flex and make your dick really hard, just now It's like that with no effort and constantly when inflated? When you're having sex does it feel like it used to when you were giving your girl your hardest dick you could, just now it's constant and effortless? What are the sensations, how do you think about yourself now with an implant, do you feel like your significant other is enjoying your dick or just accepting it. Is your opinion of sex like it was before ED? Sometimes I tried to imagine the sensation of the implant and it's hard to grasp. What is it about an ideal implant when erect that makes it inferior to a pills erection?

People say you "suffer" from ED, but are the implanted people suffering?


geoph,
I will attempt to answer your questions. First, I find it interesting you were left feeling men here didn't address things clearly because when I landed on FT I immediately felt like the guys here made everything I was thinking and felt crystal clear. It may be a difference in our ages that us older guys have been through it and u derstsnd, but you younger guts are curious about what you haven't experienced.

For me what defines success, in this context, is being able to satisfy my wife in bed. After trying every other avenue without being able to do that, the implant became my clear choice and my only choice. Knowing I can get an ere toon and keep an erection gives me peace of mind beyond my expectations.

I also think implants will become more perfect in the future but we are not where I believe they can be and will be. I still think it is worthwhile for men to try everything else first and consider an implant the last resort.

No ED treatment is perfect. In. My case I had a severe Venous Leak that went undetected for years. I am no doctor I will share my impression of my leak. You know those covered drinking glasses many of us drink from in the car? They have a hole to sip from on one side of the lid. Is the glass should tip over, the liquid co Es rushing out if that hole is on the lower edge, but it is possible it won't leak at all or will leak slowly if the sip hole is on the upper edge when it tips. Likewise, my VL meant I could get and maintain an erection if I was flat on my back and barely moved, but lost it if I rolled over, sat up, or thrust too fast. That meant I had minor help from injections, pills, etc. if my wife straddled me and I stayed on my back, it worked best, but not that well. I was unable to get on top at all for about 25 years.
So for me sex with an implant is far superior to without it, but for a guy without the severity of my VL that may be very different.

My concept of the ideal implant came to me one day when I was watching TV. There was a woman who had been attacked by an animal and her arm had to be amputated. Her doctor was touched by her story and vowed to create a prosthetic arm that would simulate her real one like no other prosthetic. He developed one tied to brain waves so by thinking about her arm and hand she was able to do things like hold her husband's had, pick up things, know how hard to squeeze various things that could and couldn't tolerate pressure, etc. for me the ideal implant would allow the brain waves to respond to touch, not need to be pumped.
For me there is no way an implant is inferior to pills, etc. but that is based on my own experiences where pills didn't provide me with satisfaction.

I do not feel like I suffer with an implant. Well, maybe I do. It has been two weeks since my implant activation and one week si nice my wife and I resumed sex. My suffering comes from being tired. My wife is keeping me busy in bed. I am satisfying her in ways I have not since I was 30 years old and now I am 61. She us delighted and so am I. For me I can not really detect the difference in feeling from my natural erection to my implanted erection. My sensations surpass any I have felt for the past 30 years, but may not be totally equivalent to the sensations i enjoyed having sex from ages 16 to 29, but damn close.

I hope I have answered the questions you were seeking clarifications to. If not I am an open book and am happy to answer anything else you want to know.
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I am 64 and had ED from a VL. Implanted by Dr. Ronald Anglade in Atlanta on 9/18/17. I have an AMS700LGX 21 cm via a Penoscrotal incision. Very happy with results. 6" soft and 6 3/4” x 5 5/8” hard.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby 25yearsold » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:38 am

geophd wrote:
I wish implanted men would put aside everything and consider an ideal implantation, in the erect state while aroused what does it feel like? Does it feel like your natural stiff dick, does it feel like when you used to flex and make your dick really hard, just now It's like that with no effort and constantly when inflated? When you're having sex does it feel like it used to when you were giving your girl your hardest dick you could, just now it's constant and effortless? What are the sensations, how do you think about yourself now with an implant, do you feel like your significant other is enjoying your dick or just accepting it. Is your opinion of sex like it was before ED? Sometimes I tried to imagine the sensation of the implant and it's hard to grasp. What is it about an ideal implant when erect that makes it inferior to a pills erection?



I am young and don't have an implant (yet). I could not explain it better, English is not my first language, these are the exact same questions on my mind. And i think they are far more important than other issues such as size, partner's reaction, and maybe even "being able to perform". We are doing it for ourselves, to satisfy ourselves(firstly). Is implant erection MUCH MORE inferior to pill/injection erection in terms of "sensation"? (Not reliability, spontaneity or safety)

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby 25yearsold » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:44 am

Greg1956 i missed your post because i was typing mine. We need to hear more about sensation part, thank you very very much for sharing your experience

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby Greg1956 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:51 pm

25yearsold wrote:Greg1956 i missed your post because i was typing mine. We need to hear more about sensation part, thank you very very much for sharing your experience


25,
I started puberty early and remember jacking off for the first time the night of my 11th birthday. I had no idea what masturbation was but it came naturally to me. The feelings of my hands on my little dick were intense and I have enjoyed being male ever since.

As a teenager I had such intense sensations from my penis that I was always getting unwanted erections. I was horny as hell and had sex for the first time at 16. By then I was a seasoned masturbator and learned to edge to hold off my ejaculation and extend my pleasure. Thankfully, those strong feelings continued, but I was able to control the unwanted ere tins much better.

When my wife and I first married I was in my mid 20's and she knew how to push all my buttons and I had fantastic orgasms. Whether my cock was in her pussy, mouth, or hand, it was like electricity running through it.

By age 30 I was having the onset of ED which quickly went from annoying to very troublesome. I had been accustomed to getting hard very fast and keeping it up for a long time. Suddenly I was taking longer and longer to get hard, if I even did. Sometimes it was limp and never firmed up at all. It still felt good to be touched, but the best feelings that had come when I was rock hard were no longer there.

As ED got worse, I could typically only cum when I was flat on my back and jacking off. If my wife straddled me to fuck, she still had to lift my dick and I usually lost my erection. When masturbating, I could keep it relatively flat to my abdomen and complete the act. There were still sensations and it felt good, even when I wasn't fully hard, but the sensations were less intense than they had been when I was hard and throbbing.

Following my implant surgery and recovery, my penis provides me with the intense feelings I recall from my early years. My glans is sensitive and when I stroke my shaft, it is wonderfully pleasurable. My wife still knows how to push my buttons and has brought me off numerous times. I no have ejaculate due to my Prostate being gone following cancer, but my dry ajaculations are great. What I recall most of my life was it was all about shooting my load and once I had achieved that goal, I was done. Now, knowing there won't be anything spurting out the tip of my dick, I am hyper aware of the feelings. My cock feels like that 16 year old boy having his first sex. I also notice the feeling in my fingers, balls, sac, etc. that I was basically unaware of at a younger age. When I cum, rather than feeling three spurts of semen, I notice more contractions and enjoy the feelings in my glans that I missed previously by stopping right after shooting.

Does that answer your question? If not, ask specific questions I can answer for you.

Greg
I am 64 and had ED from a VL. Implanted by Dr. Ronald Anglade in Atlanta on 9/18/17. I have an AMS700LGX 21 cm via a Penoscrotal incision. Very happy with results. 6" soft and 6 3/4” x 5 5/8” hard.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby radioradio » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:34 pm

Greg,
Great post. Now I just want to jerk off, but am at the office... :?
... but then again, I work for myself and have my own office :o .
Bob
Born '52. Married '79. RALP 3/1/17. ED 50+% prior to surgery even w/ meds. VED, Injections, ineffective. Considering implant even before PCa diagnosis. Dr. Kramer 8/2/17. LGX 21cm+0.5 RTE. Kramer replaced/repositioned pump 12/13/17. Willing to Show/Tell.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby Greg1956 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:37 pm

radioradio wrote:Greg,
Great post. Now I just want to jerk off, but am at the office... :?
... but then again, I work for myself and have my own office :o .
Bob


Bob,
Sometimes a guy has to do what he has to do.
I am 64 and had ED from a VL. Implanted by Dr. Ronald Anglade in Atlanta on 9/18/17. I have an AMS700LGX 21 cm via a Penoscrotal incision. Very happy with results. 6" soft and 6 3/4” x 5 5/8” hard.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby radioradio » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:40 pm

Greg1956 wrote:
radioradio wrote:Greg,
Great post. Now I just want to jerk off, but am at the office... :?
... but then again, I work for myself and have my own office :o .
Bob


Bob,
Sometimes a guy has to do what he has to do.

Yeah, but I'm gonna save it for the Mrs. later.
Oh, wait, I can do both! :D
Born '52. Married '79. RALP 3/1/17. ED 50+% prior to surgery even w/ meds. VED, Injections, ineffective. Considering implant even before PCa diagnosis. Dr. Kramer 8/2/17. LGX 21cm+0.5 RTE. Kramer replaced/repositioned pump 12/13/17. Willing to Show/Tell.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby Larry10625 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:42 pm

25yearsold wrote:
geophd wrote:
I wish implanted men would put aside everything and consider an ideal implantation, in the erect state while aroused what does it feel like? Does it feel like your natural stiff dick, does it feel like when you used to flex and make your dick really hard, just now It's like that with no effort and constantly when inflated? When you're having sex does it feel like it used to when you were giving your girl your hardest dick you could, just now it's constant and effortless? What are the sensations, how do you think about yourself now with an implant, do you feel like your significant other is enjoying your dick or just accepting it. Is your opinion of sex like it was before ED? Sometimes I tried to imagine the sensation of the implant and it's hard to grasp. What is it about an ideal implant when erect that makes it inferior to a pills erection?



I am young and don't have an implant (yet). I could not explain it better, English is not my first language, these are the exact same questions on my mind. And i think they are far more important than other issues such as size, partner's reaction, and maybe even "being able to perform". We are doing it for ourselves, to satisfy ourselves(firstly). Is implant erection MUCH MORE inferior to pill/injection erection in terms of "sensation"? (Not reliability, spontaneity or safety)



Please create a signature. It makes things much easier to answer your questions without asking a lot of questions. Here's how you do it
Click on your name in the top right corner and select "user control panel"

Then under the big letters "User Control Panel" there is a row of words... select "Profile"

Then down the left had side of the "User Control Panel" select "Edit Signature" (You might have Create Signature or something. I don't know exactly what you'll get because I already have a signature to edit)

Most guys put something like what I have, but you can put whatever you want. Here is mine -
"AMS 700 (18 + 2 rte's). Implanted March 30, 2017 by Dr. Brock of London, Ont, CANADA. Great surgeon. Went in to septic shock and had to have implant removed April 29, 2017. I'm from Belleville, Ontario, CANADA. Appt. for consult for second attempt is on November 6, 2017... I can't wait."

Don't get too carried away with the doctor like his name, address, phone number, etc (anything that looks like advertising for him).. you can certainly say Dr. Jones (great Dr.)

If you need further help, please ask, that's what I'm here for.

Larry
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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby geophd » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 pm

Greg, that helps, we appreciate it.

I guess what young men want to know is how our erection would feel if we woke up tomorrow morning with a penile implant. Would we feel the tubing? Would our glans engorge? Would it feel like a throbbing hard on that like our hardest erection ever? Would it have a feeling that makes us want to have sex? Does it feel erect if you're not touching it? When you have the erection in your hand does it feel like you're ready to have sex? I think for a young man everything is secondary to getting back their glory dick, their hard as fuck/ready to fuck/pleasure device on demand like they had before. We don't care as much about pumping, big flaccid, surgery, etc. But many young men just can't imagine how the implant will change their feelings towards their dick right now. When I pump it up will it make me aroused?

For instance if you get aroused you get an erection, the erection then makes you more aroused. Can you get aroused, pump it up, and then the hard dick you get make you more aroused? Or does it just feel like a tool with your skin wrapped around it?
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Peyronie's: 6 months, indents cause loss of 0.5 inches of girth, fibrosis growing, caused ED.
ED: 10mg Cialis daily, getting headaches, not interested in VED/injections.
Considering implant to avoid a lifetime of cialis and to correct deformity.

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Re: Yes or No or Wait

Postby radioradio » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:01 pm

geophd wrote:Greg, that helps, we appreciate it.

I guess what young men want to know is how our erection would feel if we woke up tomorrow morning with a penile implant. Would we feel the tubing? Would our glans engorge? Would it feel like a throbbing hard on that like our hardest erection ever? Would it have a feeling that makes us want to have sex? Does it erect if you're not touching it? When you have the erection in your hand does it feel like you're ready to have sex? I think for a young man everything is secondary to getting back their glory dick, their hard as fuck/ready to fuck/pleasure device on demand like they had before. We don't care as much about pumping, big flaccid, surgery, etc. But many young men just can't imagine how the implant will change their feelings towards their dick right now. When I pump it up will it make me aroused?

For instance if you get aroused you get an erection, the erection then makes you more aroused. Can you get aroused, pump it up, and then the hard dick you get make you more aroused? Or does it just feel like a tool with your skin wrapped around it?

geophd,
So far, it is not like my hard dick when I was young, and it probably never will be. But it sure isn't like my soft little dick of the past few years. It does feel a little bit like a tool with my skin wrapped around it, but I'll take it. IT WORKS.
Over the years, I always told my kids that a good bit of their happiness or unhappiness could be traced to who or what they were comparing themselves to. We older guys tend to compare our new dicks to the ones that didn't work and caused us so much distress. I can understand your concern and your comparison to your relatively recent rock hard fuck stick. If that's never coming back, then it's probably not the best thing to compare your new -- but different -- rock hard fuck stick to. A lot of what you mentioned is missing. But I blame the ED, not the implant.
Bob
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Born '52. Married '79. RALP 3/1/17. ED 50+% prior to surgery even w/ meds. VED, Injections, ineffective. Considering implant even before PCa diagnosis. Dr. Kramer 8/2/17. LGX 21cm+0.5 RTE. Kramer replaced/repositioned pump 12/13/17. Willing to Show/Tell.


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