Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

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Never_Enough
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Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby Never_Enough » Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:55 am

My Pelvic floor physio who is one of the best physios in Europe for PF issues looked at me in horror when I suggested i looked at implants if my ED from Pelvic floor problems and hard flaccid didn't go away. His words were.

If you go that route you will regret it 100% I know who had it and it ruined their lives..

When I speak to my urologist they had a similar reaction.

Yet amongst those with ED the satisfaction rate seems very high, so what exactly is the deal here?

I guess they are coming from the perspective that if I can have an OK sex life then implant shouldn't be considered... But is an OK sex life forever enough? What if it ruins your relationship.. Then what is the point.

What is the point in a working penis if it causes heart attack levels of stress over staying hard and having to stress over pills and injections.

I can get good erections.. With pills but it's constantly stressful, and then it doesn't always work... Sometimes it goes soft after a few minutes... In a way it's far easier to decide when you have full. Blown ED.

Is the fear that you will go to a backdoor surgeon or something?

As long as you go to a top surgeon and pay privately isn't the risk of something going bad miniscule?
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Psychogenic ED since a teenager, no problems being fully erect alone.
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wolfpacker
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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby wolfpacker » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:17 am

Keep in mind that the "risk of something going bad" is not a one time thing, it's cumulative as you have revision surgeries over time. Odds are probably high that eventually something will go wrong.

I would not get the implant unless I had nothing left to lose.
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby frank66665 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:41 am

if the pills work forget about the implant, you will have no guarantee of success of the implant even from the number 1 in the world, once they take the money and put the implant in, everything is fine with them, your natural cock at 70% % working, any successful implant is worth 10 times, if I could I would go back, yet the implant works perfectly, but he put it wrong and it hurts, everything is fine for the doctor
56, ED since 2010, pills work but not always and well, trt in progress improved but not so much, myocardial infarction january 2016, new stent september 2016, hypertension, venous on 1/23/23 titan one touch 22, no rte dottor Gabriele Antonini Italia

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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby Rider1400 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:01 am

wolfpacker wrote:Keep in mind that the "risk of something going bad" is not a one time thing, it's cumulative as you have revision surgeries over time. Odds are probably high that eventually something will go wrong.

I would not get the implant unless I had nothing left to lose.


I agree it’s a situation where it’s your last option but I would NOT say eventually something will go wrong. As perito and Eid say the chances of infection goes up about 1% with a revision. That’s still only 3-4% chances with a qualified surgeon! Also with the newer antibiotic coated implants the risk is far less than a few years back. Also as said on here many times, you get a bad sense of how often problems occur when you get on this forum… as this is where people go that are looking for info or that are having problems. A lot of folks get an implant and after it all settles in and gets going more normally they move on and stop visiting this site. I could get a descent erection with injections but was very unreliable and as often as the injection failed to work it would fail to stop working and I was left with an aching dick for 3-4 hours and finally After 6-8 Sudafed it would finally go down and I would be up all nite. I’m loving my bionic dick and my sex life with my wife of 38 years is the best it’s been in the last 10 years.
58year old ED started mid 40s pills failed after 10 years. Injections works but diminishing results with pain. Implanted 5-22 Baylor,Scott,and White Dallas.Dr Michael Wierschem, infrapubic Coloplast 20cm and 1cm RTE. Going strong and loving it!

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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby Journeyman » Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:18 am

An implant is the last resort to solve ED . Exhaust every option... pills , shots , electroshock therapy ( I think electroshock is a scam , but I gave it a shot . Maybe it worked for others...idk ) . Insurance companies usually want this record of alternative remedies to treat ED before they'll consider paying for implant surgery.
54 - Coloplast Titan 22cm , Implanted by Dr. Clavell in April 2023

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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby Never_Enough » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:32 pm

frank66665 wrote:if the pills work forget about the implant, you will have no guarantee of success of the implant even from the number 1 in the world, once they take the money and put the implant in, everything is fine with them, your natural cock at 70% % working, any successful implant is worth 10 times, if I could I would go back, yet the implant works perfectly, but he put it wrong and it hurts, everything is fine for the doctor


Why would you go back if the implant works?

What regrets do you have over it?

Thanks
38 m UK

Psychogenic ED since a teenager, no problems being fully erect alone.
2 kids, long term partner but also a new relationship.
Chronic pelvic pain developed in late 2023 making ED worse.
Extreme stress levels
Cialis 5 mg daily and 15 mg as prn

Never_Enough
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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby Never_Enough » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:55 pm

Journeyman wrote:An implant is the last resort to solve ED . Exhaust every option... pills , shots , electroshock therapy ( I think electroshock is a scam , but I gave it a shot . Maybe it worked for others...idk ) . Insurance companies usually want this record of alternative remedies to treat ED before they'll consider paying for implant surgery.

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I would only ever pay myself. Heard you get better treatment and aftercare
38 m UK

Psychogenic ED since a teenager, no problems being fully erect alone.
2 kids, long term partner but also a new relationship.
Chronic pelvic pain developed in late 2023 making ED worse.
Extreme stress levels
Cialis 5 mg daily and 15 mg as prn

Never_Enough
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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby Never_Enough » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:58 pm

frank66665 wrote:if the pills work forget about the implant, you will have no guarantee of success of the implant even from the number 1 in the world, once they take the money and put the implant in, everything is fine with them, your natural cock at 70% % working, any successful implant is worth 10 times, if I could I would go back, yet the implant works perfectly, but he put it wrong and it hurts, everything is fine for the doctor


Pills. Intermittently work, haven't given shots a full try yet.

It's just a lot of stress and mental gymnastics all the time.

The idea of a never failing cock is far more ppealing.

In terms of your or is and erections are they as good as when you could get them naturally?
38 m UK

Psychogenic ED since a teenager, no problems being fully erect alone.
2 kids, long term partner but also a new relationship.
Chronic pelvic pain developed in late 2023 making ED worse.
Extreme stress levels
Cialis 5 mg daily and 15 mg as prn

Dutchie
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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby Dutchie » Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:34 pm

I doubt your Pelvic floor physio knows several guys who had an implant and ruined their lives. Implants are still so rare in the UK. Maybe he knows just one man with a bad outcome.
Dutch male born 1978. Post Finasteride Syndrome induced ED. LGX 21, 1rte, implanted 10th april 2024, Dr. Andrianne, CHU Liège.

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Re: Why is there such a negative view of implants outside of the Internet?

Postby Mikedsy » Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:49 pm

My urologist, who did a fine job on my RP, was negative on the Implant. Said it didn't feel natural (how about compared to no erection?). Spent the time to find the right surgeon and it was a life changing/saving experience. I would say it's not exactly like a natrual erection but pretty darn close, at least 90%. It's much better then the 2 years I spent with injections, wish I'd done it sooner. I knew the risk going in. It can be bad but the risk is small and an it's an individual choice. It worked out for me and I couldn't be happier.
Prostatectomy 1/28/2021 @ age 62
No response from pills, Injections 4/12/2021, Salvage radiation 3/21/2022, Injections stopped working 8/2022, Implant 4/11/2023 AMS CX 18 w/1 cm rte on right side only. Penoscrotal with separate incision for reservoir.


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