Cigna declined me

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Bigdave
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby Bigdave » Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:19 am

Wow.
My employer had Cigna last year when I had my implant, as well as an ankle replacement.
They payed all but my out of pocket limit on all claims.
I just looked at my record, and I had claims totaling over $429k last year submitted. Of course, the amounts paid were a lot less, due to insurance agreements with providers.

I suspect it's limitations mandated by your employer, and not necessarily the insurance company.
Definitely keep fighting. :evil: This is every bit as important to men as gynecological care is to a woman.
Age 59. AMS 700 LGX 21cm + 2cm RTE.
Peniscrotal, 2/23.
6.25" OEM with Cialis, about 5" post-op. (11/01: Length 6.75" and girth is up to 4.75" mid shaft.) Still growing, albeit slowly. :D
Cycling daily. Hoping to get to 7". ;)

jwdetails
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby jwdetails » Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:56 pm

This blows my mind! - does your surgeon do a lot of implants? A lot of the commercial insurers have really strict criteria and the surgeon has to carefully document the medical need. As mentioned above they may need to do a doc to doc review with the insurance folks.

check this out https://static.cigna.com/assets/chcp/pd ... nction.pdf

Keep fighting!
62 year old with 37 year old wife, ED+PD got Coloplast Titan 22 cm no RTE in 2019 with Dr. Irwin Goldstein => pump failure, now revised with plaque excision/tunical expansion to Coloplast Titan 26 no RTE in 2022 by Dr. Darshan Patel. :D

jdsatx1977
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby jdsatx1977 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:40 pm

jwdetails wrote:This blows my mind! - does your surgeon do a lot of implants? A lot of the commercial insurers have really strict criteria and the surgeon has to carefully document the medical need. As mentioned above they may need to do a doc to doc review with the insurance folks.

check this out https://static.cigna.com/assets/chcp/pd ... nction.pdf

Keep fighting!


Oh, I have already started the fight.

My doc (Matthias Hofer) is drafting a letter for me, and I am preparing some statements. And it does have to do with my employer. Funny thing is they cover the same procedure under gender affirming care, and I am using that as a point in my appeal.
46 m / ED and PD combo platter / Severe horglassing / working toward getting implanted soon

jdsatx1977
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby jdsatx1977 » Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:16 pm

So, a bit of an update.

Cigna has an “advocate” helping with the appeals process. Might hear something more next week. Boston Scientific has a type of patient support team that is a little helpful as well.

Here’s to hoping things get done soon.
46 m / ED and PD combo platter / Severe horglassing / working toward getting implanted soon

Floridaspeedo
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby Floridaspeedo » Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:54 pm

I have Cigna. It was approved for Perroto but then I decided to use Cordone where it was denied.

Made no sense.

My Doc kept up with them and they approved it 24 hours before surgery.

Keep pushing
ED survivor 5 years. Tried pills, Gainswave, PRP, Bi-Mix/Tri Mix (worked 50% but very painful for 24 hours after injection.) 55 Gay - Single Titan Coloplast implanted June 1st, 2022, scrotal in Miami by Dr Billy Cordone..,very happy. Zero regrets

jdsatx1977
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby jdsatx1977 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:33 pm

Here’s a little update. I am taking my employer, and Cigna, to task on this one.

I made it a point to scrutinize the exclusion, and looked at covered options. My employer covers gender reassignment procedures, and this included the IPP. I asked why I am being excluded, and pointes that out so it looks like things might be moving in the right direction finally.
46 m / ED and PD combo platter / Severe horglassing / working toward getting implanted soon

LastHope
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby LastHope » Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:29 pm

I asked people that do the claims thing for their living - if we have Cigna or Aetna, it's not going to cover it.

Gt1956
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:39 am

LastHope wrote:I asked people that do the claims thing for their living - if we have Cigna or Aetna, it's not going to cover it.

Aetna Advantage picked upwhat ever Medicare didn't cover on mine. Admittedly it might of been a very low amount, maybe even zero. I never heard a word either way.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

Txagq8
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Re: Cigna declined me

Postby Txagq8 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:01 pm

jdsatx1977 wrote:
jwdetails wrote:This blows my mind! - does your surgeon do a lot of implants? A lot of the commercial insurers have really strict criteria and the surgeon has to carefully document the medical need. As mentioned above they may need to do a doc to doc review with the insurance folks.

check this out https://static.cigna.com/assets/chcp/pd ... nction.pdf

Keep fighting!


Oh, I have already started the fight.

My doc (Matthias Hofer) is drafting a letter for me, and I am preparing some statements. And it does have to do with my employer. Funny thing is they cover the same procedure under gender affirming care, and I am using that as a point in my appeal.


You know, it’s funny but I brought up the bit about gender affirming care a year or two back when we had a rash of insurance denials on here.

My recommendation would be a letter to the insurance carrier claiming to be an impotent MTF pansexual equipped with a faulty penis and due to your gender fluidity they need to make sure you’re functional.

It was strange and I was fortunate. When Viagra hit the market we had absolute hell getting the Army to put it on the formulary and even then you’d get 6 pills per month. By the time I retired and on Tricare didn’t bat an eye about paying as long as it was properly coded.

Iirc between surgeon, hospital, anesthesiologist, and lab it came to $43K, they got paid just less than $19K, which was essentially the same as the doctor’s out-of-pocket/self pay price of $17,200.
Robust, adolescent 65 year old. Venous leakage forever. Used shots, shots+pills 30+ years. Married to same wife ~35 yrs. Implanted 31Dec2019 in Austin Tx. AMS 700 LGX 18 cm with 5 cm RTE.


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