Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

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Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby Thisworld » Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:29 am

It's not something very know but research seem to point out that silicone can be toxic and release heavy metals in the body, most of these research have been done regarding breast implant and there are a lot of testimonials by women that got autoimmune disease and other stuff which went away when they removed the implants.
Do you guys think something similar may happen with penis implants? I know the Titan for example is made by both bioflex and silicone but what is the ratio of these materials?

This article may suggest not, since penis implant are solid silicone, not gel.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html
But since I am genetic predisposed to autoimmunity I would like to know if is there someone who know more about this, or someone who got autoimmune disease years after the surgery. Also do penis implant without silicone exists?
Hard flaccid syndrome since 2019. Trying to get better with conservative treatments but an implant is on my radar

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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:47 am

One thing to consider is the amount of silicone in your body. Just a quick look at penile implants tells me that there is nowhere close to as much material in both penile implants as there is in a single of the smaller breast implants.
I think we hashed this for awhile about a year ago. I do not remember the general consensus. My best advice is to have a discussion with your urologist before the implant surgery.
I seem to recall that there is a sensitivity test for silicone but it isn't used very often.
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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby Anonymous FT Member » Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:35 am

That's a good question, and one that I never thought of. Sounds like in your situation you need to do a lot of research and ask a lot of questions to your doctor.

By the way I don't want to hijack your post and you can direct me to proper area on the forums, but I wondered what hard flaccid is. I've never heard any doctors mention it. Is there a test for it?

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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby Thisworld » Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:32 am

PSSDorAmINormal wrote:That's a good question, and one that I never thought of. Sounds like in your situation you need to do a lot of research and ask a lot of questions to your doctor.

By the way I don't want to hijack your post and you can direct me to proper area on the forums, but I wondered what hard flaccid is. I've never heard any doctors mention it. Is there a test for it?

No problem. You can find a short explaination here. Studies are still work in progress and lot of doctors still dont know this syndrome with this name (only 4 paper in litirature since 2018) that's why you won't hear often about it, but in the past it was just know as another symptom of male pelvic floor dysfunction. Pelvic floor specialists can diagnose it with manual inspection.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hard_Flaccid/c ... _symptoms/
Feel free to PM me
Hard flaccid syndrome since 2019. Trying to get better with conservative treatments but an implant is on my radar

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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby TwoStep » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:27 am

Somewhat relevant to the topic is the issue of implant-related cancers, e.g. ALCL (anaplastic large-cell lymphoma):
Dr Gould has also found a case of facial nerve stimulator implant-associated ALCL and a separate case of penile prosthesis-associated ALCL

https://www.cancertherapyadvisor.com/ho ... er-risk/2/

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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby Thisworld » Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:00 pm

Gt1956 wrote:One thing to consider is the amount of silicone in your body. Just a quick look at penile implants tells me that there is nowhere close to as much material in both penile implants as there is in a single of the smaller breast implants.
I think we hashed this for awhile about a year ago. I do not remember the general consensus. My best advice is to have a discussion with your urologist before the implant surgery.
I seem to recall that there is a sensitivity test for silicone but it isn't used very often.


That's true. Also the penile ones are solid while breast are gel. The point is that if you have problems with breast implant you can always remove them and live without. The same can't be said for penile ones..
If you have any link to previous threads on this topic I wuold be very happy to read them
Hard flaccid syndrome since 2019. Trying to get better with conservative treatments but an implant is on my radar

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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby oldbeek » Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:22 pm

Thisworld wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:One thing to consider is the amount of silicone in your body. Just a quick look at penile implants tells me that there is nowhere close to as much material in both penile implants as there is in a single of the smaller breast implants.
I think we hashed this for awhile about a year ago. I do not remember the general consensus. My best advice is to have a discussion with your urologist before the implant surgery.
I seem to recall that there is a sensitivity test for silicone but it isn't used very often.


That's true. Also the penile ones are solid while breast are gel. The point is that if you have problems with breast implant you can always remove them and live without. The same can't be said for penile ones..
If you have any link to previous threads on this topic I wuold be very happy to read them

WRONG ! IPP can be removed.
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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby Thisworld » Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:20 pm

oldbeek wrote:
Thisworld wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:One thing to consider is the amount of silicone in your body. Just a quick look at penile implants tells me that there is nowhere close to as much material in both penile implants as there is in a single of the smaller breast implants.
I think we hashed this for awhile about a year ago. I do not remember the general consensus. My best advice is to have a discussion with your urologist before the implant surgery.
I seem to recall that there is a sensitivity test for silicone but it isn't used very often.


That's true. Also the penile ones are solid while breast are gel. The point is that if you have problems with breast implant you can always remove them and live without. The same can't be said for penile ones..
If you have any link to previous threads on this topic I wuold be very happy to read them

WRONG ! IPP can be removed.

Yes, it can and then what? :D
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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby oldbeek » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:56 pm

then you are back to no erection. just like women are back to flat chest.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: Breast implant illness/silicone toxicity/autoimmunity

Postby Endoftheline » Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:34 pm

Thisworld wrote:
PSSDorAmINormal wrote:That's a good question, and one that I never thought of. Sounds like in your situation you need to do a lot of research and ask a lot of questions to your doctor.

By the way I don't want to hijack your post and you can direct me to proper area on the forums, but I wondered what hard flaccid is. I've never heard any doctors mention it. Is there a test for it?

No problem. You can find a short explaination here. Studies are still work in progress and lot of doctors still dont know this syndrome with this name (only 4 paper in litirature since 2018) that's why you won't hear often about it, but in the past it was just know as another symptom of male pelvic floor dysfunction. Pelvic floor specialists can diagnose it with manual inspection.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hard_Flaccid/c ... _symptoms/
Feel free to PM me


One if the reasons i went for the implant, i cant keep waiting for a cure for HF, sooner or later i had to move on, didnt feel good getting close to 30 and never having a good sexual experiance.
29 years old and suffered from ED for over 16 years
I had hard flaccid (Potentially Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction) , turned to long flaccid after priaprism incident.
implanted June 24 2022
24 cm XL Titan
L: 5.7 G: 5.0 (no arousal)
L:6.5 G:5.3 (aroused)


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