Using the VED with an Implant

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Using the VED with an Implant

Postby Hawkman » Sun May 27, 2018 8:35 am

I see some men post about using a VED with an implant and even that some surgeons reportedly have findings that it help preserve size (Larry).

I am interested in the SPECIFIC DETAILS of usage, and any links to trials or studies.

If your doctor recommended VED use please share the details.

As always, thanks Guys!
Prostatectomy 2004-Bimix caused Peyronies-Viagra had little effect. Active sex life with wife of 50 yrs- been dependent on a VED for 10 yrs. 22cm Titan w/Dr. Eid Aug 7th See my Implant Journal -> http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,56.0.html

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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby Larry10625 » Mon May 28, 2018 7:06 am

Hawkman wrote:I see some men post about using a VED with an implant and even that some surgeons reportedly have findings that it help preserve size (Larry).

I am interested in the SPECIFIC DETAILS of usage, and any links to trials or studies.

If your doctor recommended VED use please share the details.

As always, thanks Guys!



I don't know why but I am having significant difficulties attaching a Pdf and then I converted it to a .doc and it still would not attach. If you would like any of my docs authored papers, PM me with an email address and i will happily send it to you. :)

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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby bldoink » Mon May 28, 2018 11:08 am

Can the documents be found on the web somewhere?
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby warrenw » Mon May 28, 2018 12:26 pm

Larry10625 wrote:The subject was brought up a week ago and attachments will not be permitted in PM's.

Larry

Larry10625 wrote:I don't know why but I am having significant difficulties attaching a Pdf and then I converted it to a .doc and it still would not attach.

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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby Larry10625 » Mon May 28, 2018 4:30 pm

bldoink wrote:Can the documents be found on the web somewhere?



The one I am talking about is Titled "MAINTAINING PENILE SIZE FOLLOWING PENILE IMPLANT.
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific ... rald_Brock

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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby bldoink » Mon May 28, 2018 8:58 pm

If this is it it's already on the reading list but it doesn't say much about using the VED after an implant: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4708606/#__sec14title
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Nerve sparing - damaged. C in margin. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ ~ 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE-1 - cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby Tokoloshi » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:02 am

My Doc said that a VED cant do more that your implant pump. He said it does the same thing - i look forward to any comment on that.
48 y.o Married. Coloplast Titan 22cm implanted in Jan28/18 by Prof Chung, Brisbane, Australia ( Brilliant surgeon ).

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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby Quincy » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:00 am

I asked my doctor about using the VED to help stretch while cycling. He said pumping the implant would cause better stretch than using a VED and the VED could possibly cause trouble for the cylinders. I know others indicate differently, just telling you what I heard.

I'm giving my VED to a friend here at FT, and glad to be done with it. YMMV.
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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:20 pm

Tokoloshi wrote:My Doc said that a VED cant do more that your implant pump. He said it does the same thing - i look forward to any comment on that.

Hydraulically, the implant cannot have any effect at all on engorgement of the corpus spongiosum. The expansion of the implant cylinders may stretch the spongiosum along the shaft marginally, but engorgement is simply not part of the implant's intent, design or ability.

The VED's function is totally all about engorgement. It also draws blood into the tissues, helping with oxygenation, though not as much as pure arterial flow. The vacuum will draw blood from veins (backflow) in addition to drawing from arteries.
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Re: Using the VED with an Implant

Postby MikeAN » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:45 am

I found this reference but could not access the article:

Moskovic DJ, Pastuszak AW, Lipshultz LI, et al. Revision of penile prosthesis surgery after use of penile traction therapy to increase erect penile length: case report and review of the literature. J Sex Med 2011;8:607-11. [PubMed]
1950. Implanted November 1st 2017 by Dr Andrew Kramer with Titian 22cm + 2cm RTE. Pump relocated and replace with Classic pump Jan. 24th, 2018. Pump failure 12/18, Replaced 2/13/19 by Dr Kramer. Revision by Dr Clavell, Feb 28, 2024.


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