Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby dg_moore » Sat May 28, 2016 6:59 am

Addyi is contraindicated for postmenopausal women, and a prudent person might be skeptical about a drug that acts on the brain but whose mechanism of operation is "poorly understood." As a retired nurse, my wife (who is postmenopausal) is skeptical of all medication, and this one she wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.
Dave, 80, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer (failed Sept 2020) - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby psyched123 » Sat May 28, 2016 2:55 pm

My wife is 62 and post-menopause and Addyi is working for us just as it should. I guess the decision lies between the risk of having a poor to non-existent sex life for the few years we have left in these bodies or trying a new drug that is helping many restore the fun of libido. Is there more danger from the loss of the many well-researched physical and mental health benefits of an active sex life or the drug that makes it possible? I can report that the Addyi option is, at least, a heck of a lot of fun!
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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby dg_moore » Sat May 28, 2016 4:32 pm

psyched123 wrote:My wife is 62 and post-menopause and Addyi is working for us just at it should. I guess the decision lies between the risk of having a poor to non-existent sex life for the few years we have left in these bodies or trying a new drug that is helping many restore the fun of libido. Is there more danger from the loss of the many very well researched physical and mental health benefits of an active sex life or the drug that makes it possible? I can report that the Addyi option is, at least, a heck of a lot of fun!

For us, the risk is between possibly restoring sexual desire (hers could conceivably be improved, but mine can't) and possibly suffering unknown damage from a poorly understood drug. The life cycle of so many drugs today is a) huge advertising, b) big sales and use by the public, followed by c) class action lawsuits. Who knows if this one is next? To us, it's not worth the risk.
Dave, 80, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer (failed Sept 2020) - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
Life is not the way it's supposed to be, it's the way it is.

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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby psyched123 » Sat May 28, 2016 10:35 pm

Given the heroic measures that most of us on this forum are employing to maintain our sex lives (all sorts and dosages of ED drugs, injections in the penis, scary and painful surgeries), taking a pink pill that has so far been shown to be benign seems pretty tame.

Finding ways to enable the continued enjoyment of a great and long sex life is what this forum is all about. Of all the good things in life, I think the pleasure and health of a wonderful sex life is worth quite a bit. Take the risk. It's so worth it. Enjoy the pleasure of a truly great sexual life!
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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby alibaba » Sun May 29, 2016 12:46 am

If your wife is anti med then she probably would not be interested in this either. PT141 has been in development for years by Pallatin Technologies , stock symbol PTN, http://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ptn?ltr=1. It will crank your libido up so wild you cannot take it any more if you go crazy with it. reccomended dosages make you horny. A side effect is a lot of it is daily dosing will give you a sun tan. I used to use it and I have friends who still use it and have for years. It has been in development for women libido but very commonly used by men. Originally it was being developed to cause a tan without having to burn in the sun to get one and then later studied by the army as a way to protect soldiers from burn and skin cancer during desert storm and the subsequent kill middle easterners for oil wars and it was discovered the peptide makes you horny as hell. Do a search for PT141. You may find it interesting. I've been following the company for over a decade and there are many suppliers of their product.
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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby psyched123 » Sun May 29, 2016 5:59 am

I've seen posts on PT141 (bremelanotide). It seems to work for some, but not for others. Also, some post that there is an initial side effect of flushing and nausea. Ali, is that why you stopped using it? What was your experience with finding the correct dose for the libido effect?

It looks like this drug will be on the market if it passes a few more FDA hurdles. It would be great information for all of us if you would share your actual experience with it and what your friends have found.
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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby Cigar56 » Sun May 29, 2016 10:32 am

Electrician wrote:Cigar 56, I also have wife with low drive married 37 years,I believe mostly due to my years of dealing with ed.Pills ,injection ect. I'M currently 100 plus days out with my new inplant .Wife has made and effort to give it a chance. Last month we ave once per week .But going from 0 to 4 times is lots for her she also needs time to heal .Never thought I'd be happy to settle for once per week .But this week she initiated date night so happy days .The Good of it is if shes not in the mood, I did waste the pills or sit around with wood For hours. Best wishes ,I sure things will work out for you and the wife given time.


Good for you on your progress, Electrician. I think once a week is a reasonable and good ratio. I'd be thrilled if I could count on once a week with enthusiasm and intensity. Unfortunately it has been only twice this year, and pretty mechanical both times. But I personally intend to stay in the game and remain encouraging. I know that an implant would not be a magical solution.
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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby alibaba » Sun May 29, 2016 2:25 pm

psyched123 wrote:I've seen posts on PT141 (bremelanotide). It seems to work for some, but not for others. Also, some post that there is an initial side effect of flushing and nausea. Ali, is that why you stopped using it? What was your experience with finding the correct dose for the libido effect?

It looks like this drug will be on the market if it passes a few more FDA hurdles. It would be great information for all of us if you would share your actual experience with it and what your friends have found.


In my experience and that of some friends that I introduced it to, the nausea is dose specific. Too much, more inclined to nausea. All of us went to lower doses and started injecting right at bed time so that was not an issue. My friends now inject 1 time a week. Originally years back we injected daily.

The flushing was little issue and also dose specific.

Interesting thing about PTI41 is that you can start out injecting regularly but in a little as 2 weeks you can start spreading the doses further and further apart like a maintenance.

The ONLY reason I quit using it was after the prostatectomy it felt like my orgasms were inside my asshole instead of my dick. VERY VERY strange sensations that were so intense I could barely take it. After one episode I destroyed my entire supply. ( now wish I had not). Subsequently, I received more surgical records from the hospital that the doctor had not provided and found they had problems trying to connect my bladder to my urethra. Bladder "kept floating up". so they stapled my bladder to my rectum to hold it in place and pulled part of my penis inside so the could make the connection. I've learned since that some of the nerves they hacked off when they took out the prostate apparently looking for a place to go attached themselves to my rectum too in that stapling shit so now if I use PT141 the part of the brain that it stimulates is connected to my asshole. W/o it I MIGHT have a sort of orgasm short, no intensity at all, ( disappointing actually) but better than nothing but it is dick related. Apparently that part of the nerve system is working more out of a skin feel sensory rather than the sex portion of the brain. Yes, I discussed this in detail with a penile reconstruction surgeon so this is not stuff I pulled out of my own psycho spinning mind.

Odd this discussion began because I have been thinking about ordering a new supply. I always mixed it as soon as I got it and loaded syringes, put them in a ziplock and froze them. When I was going to inject, I would pull one out of the bag and let it thaw. It will thaw in 5 minutes, then inject in abdomen just like a regular insulin shot. Easy. Start low on the dose as the first doses ( month) are the ones that more likely cause nausea. If it were not for trying to modify the peptide ( which as generated some cool new therapies) to stop the nausea issue, I think this thing would have been FDA approved a decade ago. This peptide has a very long track record. First in common use by competition weight lifters to get a full body tan without using tanning beds or baking in the sun.
LGX 21cm .Milam 01/13/16. Horror; both service and surgical outcome. hated infrapubic installation. Kramer revision 03/01/17. 22cm Titan +1.5cm extender. Those who think their opinion is the only one that matters are a danger to themselves and others.

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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby psyched123 » Sun May 29, 2016 3:51 pm

Thanks, Ali. Several more questions: What doses have you and your friends found were too much or about right? Different for men than women? Did doses need increasing over time? Where did you order your supply? Is bremelanotide pretty unstable once mixed so needs freezing right away?

After experiencing the great marriage-fun results from Addyi, I'm more open to what pharma is coming up with to help us old people stay young -- at least in the bedroom. For a couple of years before Addyi, we would have sex only a time or two a week and I always had to initiate. Initiating sex was uncomfortable, because I was always flirting with rejection and lack of enthusiasm.

With Addyi, the past few months have been a complete turn around. I never initiate any more. She loves sex now and wonderful bedroom fun is everyday. Marriage can really be great!! We're both smiling a lot more.
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Re: Getting An Implant Although Wife Has Low Sex Drive?

Postby alibaba » Sun May 29, 2016 7:17 pm

[quote="psyched123"]Thanks, Ali. Several more questions: What doses have you and your friends found were too much or about right? Different for men than women? Did doses need increasing over time? Where did you order your supply? Is bremelanotide pretty unstable once mixed so needs freezing right away?

Give me a bit of time and I will look it up. I kept a file on it. I keep files on every freakin thing.
It comes as a stable white powder. You add sterile water to it and it dissolves instantly. I do not remember the shelf life but is is not long after you add the water, but if you freeze it, it has a long shelf life. Kind of like trimix. Trimix has a longer shelf life frozen than refrigerated. You do not want to freeze a glass vial that has been reconstituted but syringes that are prefilled are no issue and convenient. Pull out one when you need them, the rest stays frozen and ready when needed.

Doses need decreasing over time. That is another nice thing. Body becomes more responsive which is just the opposite of other treatments. It is also a concern investors have had. They want something you are so addicted to that you cannot let go and keeps the money
LGX 21cm .Milam 01/13/16. Horror; both service and surgical outcome. hated infrapubic installation. Kramer revision 03/01/17. 22cm Titan +1.5cm extender. Those who think their opinion is the only one that matters are a danger to themselves and others.


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