Will IPP’s become reversible in 10-20 years?

[Hillywilly]

Just wondering what everyone thinks about the bioengineered corpora clinical trial this year. https://www.medifind.com/articles/clini ... al/4524071

I think it could be possible young parents would not have to go through multiple revisions in the future and may be able to replace their corpora. If they can grow penile tissue for rabbits a decade ago I think this may become a possibility. Thoughts?

[Cnidium]

Just my opinion here:

Having worked in the medical field for a while, I would never bank on the future development of a treatment, device, therapy, ect unless it was truly imminent. I can think of countless great things in the medical development pipeline that have been forgotten, delayed for years, stuck in phase x trials or whatever.

If you have great reasons to get an implant now and are highly considering it, but you also have a desire to hold out and wait to see what new and great thing is around the corner, then I highly recommend just going for the implant. Those new and great things more often than not take an absurd amount of time longer than originally guessed.

Maybe I'm on a wild goose chase with reading into your post, but just what came to mind at first.

[Hillywilly]

Just my opinion here:

Having worked in the medical field for a while, I would never bank on the future development of a treatment, device, therapy, ect unless it was truly imminent. I can think of countless great things in the medical development pipeline that have been forgotten, delayed for years, stuck in phase x trials or whatever.

If you have great reasons to get an implant now and are highly considering it, but you also have a desire to hold out and wait to see what new and great thing is around the corner, then I highly recommend just going for the implant. Those new and great things more often than not take an absurd amount of time longer than originally guessed.

Maybe I'm on a wild goose chase with reading into your post, but just what came to mind at first.

I agree Cnidium. No reason to wait for what may be. I am more wondering what the future may bring for younger IPP patients because Doctors will say "oh you have 4-5 revisions ahead of you if you get the surgery this young". I tend to think these guys don't consider that future breakthroughs in medicine may render that statement inaccurate. I am thinking barring a collapse of society we will continue to see advances in medical technology and in 30 years who knows you may be able to just grow new organs for yourself.

[Gt1956]

Think for a minute. Where are the artificial hearts, kidneys and livers that have been on the horizon. Every one of those organs are more important to society than an erection.
Its my honest guess that even though you think you're young. You'll be very old before you see a huge break through in implants.
Having said that. For the benefit of fellow men. I'd love to be wrong on my prediction.
The first implanted artificial heart was done in 1982. Folks, that was 40 years ago.

[Hillywilly]

Think for a minute. Where are the artificial hearts, kidneys and livers that have been on the horizon. Every one of those organs are more important to society than an erection.
Its my honest guess that even though you think you're young. You'll be very old before you see a huge break through in implants.
Having said that. For the benefit of fellow men. I'd love to be wrong on my prediction.
The first implanted artificial heart was done in 1982. Folks, that was 40 years ago.

Valid points. But more technological innovation has occurred in the last 5 years than the last 40 years. Technology is advancing at an exponential rate which means it is hard to draw a conclusion based on past experience. Even today artificial intelligence can find potential drug molecules 1000x faster than a human being.

[Gt1956]

Think for a minute. Where are the artificial hearts, kidneys and livers that have been on the horizon. Every one of those organs are more important to society than an erection.
Its my honest guess that even though you think you're young. You'll be very old before you see a huge break through in implants.
Having said that. For the benefit of fellow men. I'd love to be wrong on my prediction.
The first implanted artificial heart was done in 1982. Folks, that was 40 years ago.

Valid points. But more technological innovation has occurred in the last 5 years than the last 40 years. Technology is advancing at an exponential rate which means it is hard to draw a conclusion based on past experience. Even today artificial intelligence can find potential drug molecules 1000x faster than a human being.

Five years of technology changes have not moved the needle on the major health items that I mentioned.
I understand some of your point but having retired from an industry that was labled for more than my 45 year carreer as being doomed because of all the technology improvements. Its going stronger than ever before. The influx of tech just meant that fewer people could use the tech & thus got paid a lot more than before.
Don't bet very heavily on technology solving your limp dick anytime soon. Current tech works well enough that its unlikely to get the research money to move very much or very fast.
Dreams are great but we all need to live in reality.

[merrix]

Valid points. But more technological innovation has occurred in the last 5 years than the last 40 years. Technology is advancing at an exponential rate which means it is hard to draw a conclusion based on past experience. Even today artificial intelligence can find potential drug molecules 1000x faster than a human being.

Totally off-topic here, but this is just a rant I go on once in a while. More innovation the last 5 years than the last 40???
I would say innovation stopped. There is no innovation. At least not if we compared to what we achieved 100 years ago. Or 150. Or 50.
All we do now is find more ways to use the internet. Every innovation is based on what we can do with our iphones.
Or they improve an already existing innovation. Electric cars instead of gasoline. Still a car which was invented 150 years ago. two front seats, a back seat, a steering wheel. A fridge with an internet connection, an app, and a camera which lets me see that I'm out of eggs while at the grocery store. Still a fridge which has been around 100 years. An ultra thin TV with better contrast and brightness. Still a TV which was invented a looong time ago. A camera in your phone with 46 gazillion pixels? OK, nice, but still a camera which was invented two hundred years ago. The mobile phone, some 30-50 years ago. Sure, big as a brick, but still - the big invention was going from wired to wireless. Now we just take the same frigging mobile phone and make it smaller and smarter. Just refining existing innovations.

My point is we don't come up with anything new. Imagine the changes our grandparents and their grandparents went through. A car instead of horse and carriage. Radio instead of...? What? Nothing. TV instead of Radio. Electricity. Going to the moon. Micro wave oven. A watch instead of looking at the sun. The computer. Internet. Aeroplanes. They were invented way over hundred years ago. And they are still around. Faster, larger, etc. But still a fucking aeroplane. How long did the battery last on my first laptop? 3-4 hours. Today? 6-7. Wow. That's all we've improved in 20 years? Why don't a frigging laptop battery last a month?

There is no innovation.

Ok, there it was. My anti-innovation rant. Cheers.

[indeed]

Second this 100%. Read of so many "promising" new treatments that should be out soon over the years. Rarely does anything of it become reality.
I feel like nowadays innovation is blocked by too much regulation and pure financial interest.

Sucks

Valid points. But more technological innovation has occurred in the last 5 years than the last 40 years. Technology is advancing at an exponential rate which means it is hard to draw a conclusion based on past experience. Even today artificial intelligence can find potential drug molecules 1000x faster than a human being.

Totally off-topic here, but this is just a rant I go on once in a while. More innovation the last 5 years than the last 40???
I would say innovation stopped. There is no innovation. At least not if we compared to what we achieved 100 years ago. Or 150. Or 50.
All we do now is find more ways to use the internet. Every innovation is based on what we can do with our iphones.
Or they improve an already existing innovation. Electric cars instead of gasoline. Still a car which was invented 150 years ago. two front seats, a back seat, a steering wheel. A fridge with an internet connection, an app, and a camera which lets me see that I'm out of eggs while at the grocery store. Still a fridge which has been around 100 years. An ultra thin TV with better contrast and brightness. Still a TV which was invented a looong time ago. A camera in your phone with 46 gazillion pixels? OK, nice, but still a camera which was invented two hundred years ago. The mobile phone, some 30-50 years ago. Sure, big as a brick, but still - the big invention was going from wired to wireless. Now we just take the same frigging mobile phone and make it smaller and smarter. Just refining existing innovations.

My point is we don't come up with anything new. Imagine the changes our grandparents and their grandparents went through. A car instead of horse and carriage. Radio instead of...? What? Nothing. TV instead of Radio. Electricity. Going to the moon. Micro wave oven. A watch instead of looking at the sun. The computer. Internet. Aeroplanes. They were invented way over hundred years ago. And they are still around. Faster, larger, etc. But still a fucking aeroplane. How long did the battery last on my first laptop? 3-4 hours. Today? 6-7. Wow. That's all we've improved in 20 years? Why don't a frigging laptop battery last a month?

There is no innovation.

Ok, there it was. My anti-innovation rant. Cheers.

[Gt1956]

Merrix is saying what I've written here several times. Normally it isn't some new invention that changes the world. Its slow incremental improvements that happen.
I'm sure that most major industries have teams looking at improvements. But they only look where they feel those improvements are needed. Most of our modern technologies work fairly well.
Implants, despite the complaints do fulfill their intended functions pretty well. I think we have seen some incremental improvements in the last few years. Word is that the tubing was changed by I think it was Coloplast. AMS has impregnated their material with an antibiotic coating. Coloplast has a material that can absord an antibiotic solution of the surgeons choice if he is willing to use it. I bet most do soak the Titans prior to implantaion.
These are incremental improvements that might take a few years before we notice the long term effects at the user level.

[Gt1956]

Indeed, you talk about financial interests blocking innovations. Lets think for a minute. I pressume that you have a job. At this job you expect to get paid for your work. Companies are just like you. They expect to make money for their "work". If their reseach comes back & says thet the proposal to spend X amount of money on a product won't return a wage for the companies efforts then they won't do it.
Would you go to a job that wasn't going to pay you? That is how most companies see the world.