Financing Tips

[Shootanoogah]

Let me state how grateful I am to all users who have posted on their "bionocization” process. I have learned so much by reading all these posts (special mention to Tangerine. I hope last news are good brother!)

I have learned so many great names of surgeons ( I believe Dr. Eid is the MVP of all MVIPS (Most Valuable Inflatable Penile Surgeon).

I hope none of my bionic fellas won't hate me if I confess that I am a little bit if not a lot jealous of you all, flaunting your toys and bragging to be where I dream to be. I can't help but envy you when I am filling up my syringe ( I am still good with 4 units but can't do anything without it) and fearing that I have to stay up until the Beast bends down

I am fully employed but my insurance does not cover the IPP. I am not on Medicare, nor a veteran. So my posting is a suggestion to both the administrators of FT as well as users with a special knowlegde on financing loopholes that people like me can take advantage of.

If it is not against the spirit of this forum, can we open a special page that we would call "Financing Tips" where the little people will go and get solution for their IPP and pursue happiness?

[Gt1956]

First, try being creative. I know of a woman that got her insurance to cover gastric bypass but at a higher co-pay than her normal fee. Sure it cost her more but she didn't have a long proacted. Battle over it. Btw, I don't know what process she used.

[Shootanoogah]

First, try being creative. I know of a woman that got her insurance to cover gastric bypass but at a higher co-pay than her normal fee. Sure it cost her more but she didn't have a long proacted. Battle over it. Btw, I don't know what process she used.

Thank you. I will investigate.

[Rider1400]

At first I was told by my BCBS representative that they Did not cover iPP. Then After talking to 4 different people at 4 different times one representative said yes we do. So I called Dr and got their implant. Codes. Think there are 4 different codes needed and called my BCBS again and upon entering codes said it is definitely covered so then went to Dr and had consult and they ran it they insurance and confirmed coverage… I was so desperate at the time that I was willing to pull cash out of my 401K to get it done at the reduced cash price of $18,000. What I can tell you is don’t give up I. Your insurance until you have fully exhausted all ways of getting them to cover it. Might be worth it might not.

[2435tjklAS]

You mentioned the great names of surgeons who specialize in implants, but does it save you money to get the procedure done by your normal regular urologist? I did. I can't find any information online about him ever doing implants, but it surely wasn't his first time, and he's my freaking urologist, I trust he knows exactly what he's doing.

There's studies that report high-volume implant surgeons having higher patient satisfaction rankings but if a doctor is willing to cut your balls open, you can trust he knows how.

[Shootanoogah]

At first I was told by my BCBS representative that they Did not cover iPP. Then After talking to 4 different people at 4 different times one representative said yes we do. So I called Dr and got their implant. Codes. Think there are 4 different codes needed and called my BCBS again and upon entering codes said it is definitely covered so then went to Dr and had consult and they ran it they insurance and confirmed coverage… I was so desperate at the time that I was willing to pull cash out of my 401K to get it done at the reduced cash price of $18,000. What I can tell you is don’t give up I. Your insurance until you have fully exhausted all ways of getting them to cover it. Might be worth it might not.

Thank you for the tip. I’ll check.

[newbie443]

You mentioned the great names of surgeons who specialize in implants, but does it save you money to get the procedure done by your normal regular urologist? I did. I can't find any information online about him ever doing implants, but it surely wasn't his first time, and he's my freaking urologist, I trust he knows exactly what he's doing.

There's studies that report high-volume implant surgeons having higher patient satisfaction rankings but if a doctor is willing to cut your balls open, you can trust he knows how.

It is a bit more than patient satisfaction. There are higher rates of infection and reoperations for other reasons. https://www.garber-online.com/pdf/Highe ... ctions.pdf

[2435tjklAS]

You mentioned the great names of surgeons who specialize in implants, but does it save you money to get the procedure done by your normal regular urologist? I did. I can't find any information online about him ever doing implants, but it surely wasn't his first time, and he's my freaking urologist, I trust he knows exactly what he's doing.

There's studies that report high-volume implant surgeons having higher patient satisfaction rankings but if a doctor is willing to cut your balls open, you can trust he knows how.

It is a bit more than patient satisfaction. There are higher rates of infection and reoperations for other reasons. https://www.garber-online.com/pdf/Highe ... ctions.pdf

Interesting study. I suppose it's not that surprising but I'm personally fine with taking the risk. If the options are 1) having serious ED and not fixing it because you can't afford it, or 2) getting an implant with a higher risk of non-deadly but still
serious complications, I'm going with the option that fixes ED and fixes my dick. The possible consequences are far less important to me than getting a workable implant. And I don't know if this is accurate, but do higher risk of infections and reoperation ruin the process? I think you end up with a workable dick either way, one option just increases the risk of you going through some extra shit, but the ending is still the same - a complete 100% cure for ED.

[newbie443]

Interesting study. I suppose it's not that surprising but I'm personally fine with taking the risk. If the options are 1) having serious ED and not fixing it because you can't afford it, or 2) getting an implant with a higher risk of non-deadly but still
serious complications, I'm going with the option that fixes ED and fixes my dick. The possible consequences are far less important to me than getting a workable implant. And I don't know if this is accurate, but do higher risk of infections and reoperation ruin the process? I think you end up with a workable dick either way, one option just increases the risk of you going through some extra shit, but the ending is still the same - a complete 100% cure for ED.

Infection will cause size loss or can even be a game over outcome. And as there is a cosmetic factor to this the quality of outcome is also affected. My local uro group doctors all did 2-3 implants a year. The 2 I spoke to and the men who were implanted by them all said minimum size loss with surgery was 1" and most likely more. None of the doctors did replacement surgery and the consult I had with the business office included counseling that results were so poor by the doctors that a significant number of men that had the surgery ended up having the device removed.

That is why this site is biased. There are many of these doctors around and the men they operate on come to this site. I am not saying you have to go to a big name doctor. No Doctor is perfect and even the big name doctors have an infection rate above zero and other cases with problems. There are many very good doctors out there that get little or no mention on this site. The thing is to stay away from the doctors that have no interest in this surgery. The one like mine who have the only place to go to and do not consider this real medical practice.

I am glad you lucked out and were able to have a good outcome with your surgery. But others are not so lucky.

[Old Guy]

I am fully employed but my insurance does not cover the IPP. I am not on Medicare, nor a veteran. So my posting is a suggestion to both the administrators of FT as well as users with a special knowlegde on financing loopholes that people like me can take advantage of.

If it is not against the spirit of this forum, can we open a special page that we would call "Financing Tips" where the little people will go and get solution for their IPP and pursue happiness?

FT is a great forum isn't it?

I believe there are a couple of medical loan places who will lend you the cash for a surgery. High interest of course.
Dancing around insurances can be a pain. As much as my insurance said it wasn't a covered procedure when I first contacted them, they did. However, they wanted proof that pills and injections weren't working anymore. Then they called me and the rep sounded like she was trying to talk me out of it, giving me all the negative possible side effects, infections, loss of sensation and maybe it not working. I finally asked about her status. She told me she was 36 and married with kids. I asked her what she would do if her husband developed ED, would she be happy living the rest of her life without being able to be intimate? That got a "No" and an approval for my surgery!
Actually, my uro's office billing people did most of the work. Think they had to send more info three or four times to satisfy insurance.