Can you over pump and damage pump

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Boatman678
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Can you over pump and damage pump

Postby Boatman678 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:49 pm

I was wondering how strong these pumps snd tubing are. When I pump it up hard the last few pumps are tough to squeeze. I have very strong hands. Is it possible to pump it so tight that you can burst the bulb or blow a hose off?

Pamen116
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Re: Can you over pump and damage pump

Postby Pamen116 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:53 pm

Hopefully you get a reply because I been wondering the same thing. I get to like 30 pumps or so and the pump becomes fairly solid and hard.
30 yrs old. Current IPP failed in 2022. Waiting revision. No insurance. I’ve had both Titan & AMS.

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Re: Can you over pump and damage pump

Postby Smetro » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:14 pm

No
68,Titan Touch 22cm+1.5cm rte's op done in Melbourne Aust by Dr Chris Love-Feb 2017 Venous leakage over a 2 year period, did pills and Caverject. Length@ 3 1/2years is: 7+” erect, 6.5” flaccid and almost 6” girth. REZUM Feb 21 ejaculation now normal.

Gt1956
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Re: Can you over pump and damage pump

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:17 pm

We've had people calculate the squeezing pressure to reach the internal cylinder pressure that these have been tested at. There is no way you have enough grip strength to over pressure them. Of course, barring a defective splice or section of tubing. Squeeze away.
69yo, HBP @ 40, high triglycerides @ 45. Phimosis @ 57. Type 2 @ 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months.

TANGERINE
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Re: Can you over pump and damage pump

Postby TANGERINE » Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:36 pm

I think i discuss this in chapter 30 of my implant pamphlet which you can find at
https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16298:

this question was asked a while ago in a topic titled : "can a person over pump ?"
and my answer, which I paste below was:

here is what the website from dr eid states:

Instructions for Inflating Your Penile Implant
SOURCE: UROLOGICALCARE.com J F Eid, MD

"....Anywhere from 10 to 60 squeezes may be required to fully inflate the penile implant cylinders. The larger the penile cylinder the more fluid will be needed to achieve penile firmness, the more times the pump will need to be squeezed. You cannot damage the penile pump or over inflate the cylinders, so squeeze it several times until it becomes as hard as a marble. At this point rock the shaft of the penis from side to side and up and down and squeeze the penile pump again a few times until the shaft of the penis becomes very firm. You should be able to squeeze it three to six more times. All cylinder folds and ridges should completely disappear and the shaft of the penis should be rock hard when the penle implant is fully inflated.
The majority of patients are unable to inflate the penile device fully during the first month of use.
Once the penile implant is inflated keep the erection up for 15 minutes or more and then deflate it completely.
Perform this maneuver every day for the first 2 to 4 weeks after learning how to use the penile pump or until the penis is no longer sore when fully inflated.


The above instructions came from Dr Eid website. also, i have attached a manual by dr wilson below
Dr Wilson states:

quote from coloplast manual by dr steve wilson:
Suggestions for Optimum Outcomes
It is a good idea for the patient to cycle his device daily in order to keep
the pump lubricated and avoid sticky pump syndrome. He doesn’t have to cycle completely; just pump it a few times, deflate it and then pump it one time again. This ensures daily movement of the valve in the pump. It is not necessary to press hard to deflate or to keep your finger on the deflate valve for more than a single push. If the patient is having difficulty depressing
the deflate valve, reverse the thumb and forefinger on the deflate portion. Humans have much more power in their thumb than forefinger and elderly patients may not be developing enough pressure with their fingers.
It has also been shown in the literature that the Titan will expand and possibly lengthen & widen the penis if the patient inflates daily for 1-3 hours.7 Patients will confirm this expansion as the number of pumps to full inflation will increase over time.
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Gt1956
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Re: Can you over pump and damage pump

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:31 pm

Didn't we have a member that would lay his sack on the bathroom countertop & use the heel of his palm to compress his pump? He might of had a strength issue with his hands. I have a hard time even imagining someone using more pressure on their pump than he did.
Not my field of expertise but I'm pretty sure the functions of hydraulics are well know & the implant companies are well aware of them.
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TANGERINE
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Re: Can you over pump and damage pump

Postby TANGERINE » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:23 am

yep that is true, i just read that post looking back through archives.

One guy also mused on the idea of "soft jaw" pliers .

Here was a nicely writtrn opinon on that from lostSheep:

https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9629&hilit=soft+jaw%2A&start=10#p77685

LostShep says:
Lost Sheep » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:07 am

The manufacturers intended only as much pressure in their implants as a normal human hand can produce without mechanical advantage. The leverage pliers or other tools (including putting the pump bulb on a table and using your body weight to compress the bulb) puts more pressure into the implant's system than the manufacturers intended.

Now, some men's hands might be able to produce more (or less) pressure than optimal for the implant's operation as an erectile device. Talk to your product representative or your surgeon about that if you think you are among either group of men.

If you damage your implant (either breaking the pump, by "blowing out" a cylinder or loosening a connector) the wait time for your replacement device is not worth the ease of pumping with pliers, I think.
"Strive to find the best surgeon--experience really matters"
(63 yo, Titan 22cm implant Feb 2017 by Dr Eid) I'm super pleased with my length/girth/implant performance. See my story at "The road to becoming a bionic male: Answers ..."


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