How important is your first implant?

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jump.ship
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How important is your first implant?

Postby jump.ship » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:58 am

Hello all,

My plan was to go to Eid to have my implant done because I want to retain my exact pre-implant size. But due to covid I am losing patience waiting. I am in the UK currently.

I just wanted to ask... Let's say, hypothetically, I got the implant done here in the UK and I lost 1/2 inch.

Is it the case that my penis is now stuck at this new smaller size forever unless I get a revision right away or within the year maybe?

Like, say I leave it for 3 or 4 years... will the best surgeon in the world be unable to get that 1/2 back?

I would love to just get this done in the UK. If it's undersized but I know I can get it fixed in a few years time I can live with that - it will just be money wasted. I just don't want to permanently screw up my penis size!

Thanks
Uk Based - 39 Years
ED from day one - VL confirmed with NHS
Implanted Jan 2022 - Dr Eid - 22cm Titan / no RTEs

Burhead27
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby Burhead27 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:54 am

Don't know if anyone is able to give you guarantees. But can share my experience so far. Did I lose size? Yes. Do you feel you could lose some and still get the job done? You haven't said much about the degree of ED you have. Can you get a meaningful erection at any time. For me the days of ANY erection were gone and that made my decision easier for me personally. Hope this helps remember the decision is yours. Hope you can feel comfortable in your decision I think that's what is important. Good luck on your journey.
66 Y married to high-school sweetheart. ED on and off 30 Y ( BP meds). Pills, VED with pills Tried injection 1 time in Dr. office not for me.. Unable to have intercourse over 2 years prior to implant. Implanted 12/14 2020. AMS CX 24+1. Happy Camper!

Burhead27
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby Burhead27 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:55 am

I would suggest that you get a high volume surgeon!
66 Y married to high-school sweetheart. ED on and off 30 Y ( BP meds). Pills, VED with pills Tried injection 1 time in Dr. office not for me.. Unable to have intercourse over 2 years prior to implant. Implanted 12/14 2020. AMS CX 24+1. Happy Camper!

Txagq8
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby Txagq8 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:39 pm

I can’t answer your question. I’m just barely a year with my first implant.

But your post struck a nerve and I felt compelled to editorialize. If you disagree, so be it, and my intent is not to offend.

Can anyone tell me what is so freakin important about a damned half inch of dick? Anyone?

That sounds funny coming from me. I spent probably close to 20 years of my life worrying about the size of my dick. As it turned out, my fears were misplaced. And when it didn’t work, I came to understand that a little smaller can be a whole lot better. For both me and my wife.

I had a delayed puberty. Started at age 17-18. Needless to say I did not fare well in shower room comparisons while in high school.

I was a grower, once I did grow an adult cock. It was about 3.5 long and 5 circumference and sort of just sat there on big balls. So it looked short, fat, and uninsoiring to me from above. By then I was in Army and showering with countless others. Nobody ridiculed me, so it must have appeared within the range of normal. But I thought I was a lot smaller than average.

Erect it was just shy of 7 long, and 6” in circumference. It’s stupid, in retrospect, that I thought that was small but I did.

After I got married my wife convinced me that what I brought to bed was more than enough, and actually above the average. It didn’t change my life but I lost any remaining self consciousness about it.

Fast forward 35 years. I’ve got the ED, really bad. An implant is the only course of action. So I do it. I lose 1/2 inch of length and 1/2 inch of girth. I’m left with a dick 6 1/4x5 1/2. It looks ok, nice upward curve that it always had. And it works, perhaps too well.

At the rate we use it it may only last 5 years instead of the expected 10. But that’s okay. Do you think my wife or anyone notices or cares about 1/2”? I sure don’t.

Oh, and now I’m a shower. I put on a Jocko swimsuit and head to the beach at age 65 and if someone is shocked, that’s their problem. Men have penises. That’s not an object of shame.

Losing half an inch is of no real importance when you compare it to loss of function or having it blown off by an IED in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Age 68. Physically fit educated red neck in Texas. Very married. 23 cm (18+5) of LGX installed by Dr. Bryan Kansas 12/31/2019. I fought the ED and my wife & I won. I’m either full of shit or sound advice. You decide which.

jump.ship
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby jump.ship » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:46 pm

Burhead27 wrote:Don't know if anyone is able to give you guarantees. But can share my experience so far. Did I lose size? Yes. Do you feel you could lose some and still get the job done? You haven't said much about the degree of ED you have. Can you get a meaningful erection at any time. For me the days of ANY erection were gone and that made my decision easier for me personally. Hope this helps remember the decision is yours. Hope you can feel comfortable in your decision I think that's what is important. Good luck on your journey.


Hey Burhead,

I am 100% getting the implant - no seconds thoughts on that. I can still get an erection now... I just cant keep it.

Yeah, I will be seeing a high implant surgeon here - Mr Ralph. He will do a good job most likely, but there is less certainty. The difference is that Eid will guarantee a perfect job. I would say worst case scenario I might lose 1/2 inch here. This would be a bad outcome for me yes - bad because that would not have happened with Eid I dont think.
Uk Based - 39 Years
ED from day one - VL confirmed with NHS
Implanted Jan 2022 - Dr Eid - 22cm Titan / no RTEs

jump.ship
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby jump.ship » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:12 pm

Txagq8 wrote:Can anyone tell me what is so freakin important about a damned half inch of dick? Anyone?


Hey Txaga,

I totally get what you've said. I appreciate it looks like I and others are concerned with aesthetics or manhood, but the concern is more a clinical issue as far as I see it.

Like if my penis is 6.5 inches and an implant goes in that makes its 6 inches, then the implant is restricting my anatomy... wont' this create a less natural outcome? Won't it be like poorly tailored clothes?
Uk Based - 39 Years
ED from day one - VL confirmed with NHS
Implanted Jan 2022 - Dr Eid - 22cm Titan / no RTEs

irishguy
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby irishguy » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:16 pm

Hey man how ya doing? Listen Ralph is an excellent implanter and everyone I talked to has a great outcome because of him.. I actually am the only one who has complained about him but I was wrong very wrong with what I was saying!! On the subject of size everyone of us younger members care about size where as the older men don’t seem too.. but what I have seen is most guys that are between 5-6 inch’s and an average to under average girth care soo much about size.. put it this way I am the same 6 inch length at most excited and 4.5 girth near 5 when fully excited and a cock ring on... now I would not want it smaller it’s bad enough that you have to pump up your dick just to be able to have sex you don’t then want it a millimetre shorter or skinnier!! So rant over go to Ralph and he will do a damn good job on you.. ved like crazy for the next while and possibly do a penis extender as afew men have said they’ve had great outcomes by doing these things safely.. I personally have never used an extender so look up threads on this site and elsewhere before doing either ved and or extender.. hope this helped
Age 39
Original implant: 18cm Titan with 2cm rte on right 1.5cm rte on left
Mar 19 2013, Professor Ralph
12 years with implant
Feb 2025 implant leak from the resevoir
Implanter: Professor Ralph
11-Apr-2025 titan otr 22cm revision implant

stmfttr
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby stmfttr » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:05 pm

Dear jump.ship,
Here's my input.
Prior to my implant surgery, at the recommendation of my urologist/surgeon, I used a VED (penis pump) for 6 weeks, 2-3 times a day, for 20-30 minutes. My implant procedure was done "penoscrotal". I did NOT loose any length AND gained girth.
Pre implant - length 170mm & girth 150mm (base)
Post surgery - (today) length 175mm & girth 165mm (base)
The doctor, during surgery, measured twice and determined that 22cm cylinders with NO RTE's was best. As far as I'm concerned, he was 100% correct.
After 25 years of "hit-or-miss" sex I'm happy to say we're having a blast with my bionic penis. When pumped fully, my penis is rock hard.
I occasionally still use the VED prior to sex...because the VED makes the penis even larger.
The implant surgery will change your life.
stmfttr
78 - Married 54 years - Coloplast Titan, 22cm and no RTE's - Installed June 2019 Nebraska Medicine, Dr. Deibert (urologist/surgeon)
Update: Replaced implant due to pump failure. New implant Nov.19th, 2024 - Coloplast Titan w/OTR pump - 22cm + 1cm RTE

NothingIsOver
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby NothingIsOver » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:53 pm

jump.ship wrote:
Yeah, I will be seeing a high implant surgeon here - Mr Ralph. He will do a good job most likely, but there is less certainty. The difference is that Eid will guarantee a perfect job. I would say worst case scenario I might lose 1/2 inch here. This would be a bad outcome for me yes - bad because that would not have happened with Eid I dont think.


Hey jump.ship,

Dr. Eid is certainly a highly regarded surgeon, but I don't think he, or anyone else for that matter, can GUARANTEE a perfect job. He is a human being, not a god. I'm not sure if this is just your opinion based on what you have heard about him or if he actually made that claim to you directly. If it is the latter, I would be pretty concerned.

I do know that he guarantees his surgeon fee for 3 years after the procedure. As in, if something goes wrong during that period, he would operate again free of charge. So if that's what you are referring to, then I understand. I highly doubt he would do a revision just to regain half an inch, though. The risk/reward is just not there.
Born 1982
ED due to Peyronie's/VL
Implanted March 2021 by Dr. Tariq Hakky
Titan XL - 24 cm - Touch Pump - no RTEs - 125 cc reservoir
"Nothing is over until we decide it is!" - Bluto, Animal House

jump.ship
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Re: How important is your first implant?

Postby jump.ship » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:15 pm

NothingIsOver wrote:Dr. Eid is certainly a highly regarded surgeon, but I don't think he, or anyone else for that matter, can GUARANTEE a perfect job. He is a human being, not a god. I'm not sure if this is just your opinion based on what you have heard about him or if he actually made that claim to you directly. If it is the latter, I would be pretty concerned.


No of course he doesn't offer such a guarantee. I am being fast and loose with my language to get the point across just.

NothingIsOver wrote:I do know that he guarantees his surgeon fee for 3 years after the procedure. As in, if something goes wrong during that period, he would operate again free of charge. So if that's what you are referring to, then I understand. I highly doubt he would do a revision just to regain half an inch, though. The risk/reward is just not there.


That is interesting. I never considered that a doc might not do a revision if the original implant was 'good enough' - although I would question whether losing half an inch is 'good enough'.

But the core of my question is really about whether you can fix an undersized implant once a few years have past... Let's say its severely undersized by like 2 inches. That is my question really.
Uk Based - 39 Years
ED from day one - VL confirmed with NHS
Implanted Jan 2022 - Dr Eid - 22cm Titan / no RTEs


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