Just a quick simple question,, I have been told that it is impossible to over pump my implant.
Is this true ?
I use to pump my first surgery into a erection as hard as a marble.
And for some reason I would put a restriction ring on afterwards,, I think it made it even girthier yet,, probably not,, but thought that at the time,, hope that didn't cause my failure on the first implant because the leak was actually near the top left cylinder and tube were the cock ring was placed.
Also I read that some members on here use a VED after implant,, I was told by the surgeon that this could harm the implant and not to do this.
I never used a VED with my first implant, and would'nt want to take a chance of breaking anything, I think my implant was done with the tubes located in with the cylinders at the base of the penis.
Excuse me for my ignorance on all of this, I'm new to the site, I'm healing well and I don't want to harm my 2nd surgery at all
Also I'm 8 days post OP, and I gave the pump 3 pumps this morning,, probably shouldn't have done that,, but no pain, and seems to work well.
CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
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CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
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Re: CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
Every Doc is different and some just plain superstitious. Mine says not to pump or release until 1st post op exam in about 5 weeks. I remember reading on a post somewhere on FT that you should pump (after healing) until the pump is hard. Eventually you will expand the tubes in the tunica until there is no more room (that is what you want) that makes healing without SHRINKAGE! It stands to reason to do that every time you use your "little head". In case a revision is necessary some time in the future you have a larger interior tunica thus a larger implant will fit and a bigger, more powerful "johnson" or "peterbuilt" which ever moniker you choose. 

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Re: CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
my doc had me 80-90 % pumped during healing. Hurt like hell. So I don't think pumping up early is a problem, but mine is a factory pre connected kit. Later when that pump ball gets hard there is no more pumping. Guess you could use pliers but your scrotum skin would say, no way. I still hurt when at max pump so I think I have hit max stretch limit. I was back at full length in one month.
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It is likely that your githierness with the constriction ring was due to engorgement of the spongiosum tissue (which has nothing to do with the erection provided by the implant). The constriction ring would also engorge your glans. Did it?
The use of a V.E.D. after implant was thought to be dangerous to either the implant or your tissues, but there is research into the question that suggests there are some advantages (to offset the risks) and physicians' thinking on the question is/are changing. This takes time. Since your surgeon has actually seen YOUR insides, discuss with him and follow his advice. Be diplomatic when you introduce medical journal papers to him. He likely would not pay attention to anecdotal testimony from any other source.
Recovery from second implants is usually less painful and quicker than virgin implants.
The use of a V.E.D. after implant was thought to be dangerous to either the implant or your tissues, but there is research into the question that suggests there are some advantages (to offset the risks) and physicians' thinking on the question is/are changing. This takes time. Since your surgeon has actually seen YOUR insides, discuss with him and follow his advice. Be diplomatic when you introduce medical journal papers to him. He likely would not pay attention to anecdotal testimony from any other source.
Recovery from second implants is usually less painful and quicker than virgin implants.
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Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
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Re: CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
I can tell you from experience that you can hurt you penis if you pump to hard and are to aggressive. I have done this more than once. I have had a blood blister on the head on my penis from over pumping. Too much too quick! I have had bruising on my penis from the same thing. What I am saying is you can pump too much too quick. Don’t rush pumping. I pump everyday and I have had an implant for a little over a year. I was implanted January 8, 2020. Best of luck. Go easy don’t rush it and you should be fine.
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What's the difference between pumping too much too quickly? And pumping gradually? They both should theoretically result in the exact same thing, a rock hard penis. If you got blisters or bruising for pumping quickly, you should get them if you pump slowly too. Am I missing something here?
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Re: CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
@indusvalley, it's like the difference between going on a 10k run without warming up, or after warm-up. It's about slowly allowing the tissues to stretch rather than just forcing them quickly to maximum. Running without warm-up can cause damage and pain beyond that of the exercise but warming up allows for less trauma to the tissues. Same with pumping slowly over a period of time.
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Re: CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
notaes wrote:I can tell you from experience that you can hurt you penis if you pump to hard and are to aggressive. I have done this more than once. I have had a blood blister on the head on my penis from over pumping. Too much too quick! I have had bruising on my penis from the same thing. What I am saying is you can pump too much too quick. Don’t rush pumping. I pump everyday and I have had an implant for a little over a year. I was implanted January 8, 2020. Best of luck. Go easy don’t rush it and you should be fine.
Is that blister from pumping your implant or pumping a VED? The OP was asking about applying a VED on an implanted penis, I think.
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READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
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Re: CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
As far as VED, yes you can pump too fast. There are really small delicate blood vessels that can be damaged. They are so small that really high pressure can build and they can rupture. So that is the reason for the blister or bruising. The blood just cannot flow fast enough through them. And you can over pump a VED and have too much vacuum and cause damage.
As far as over pumping an implant I don't think you can.
My AMS DVD makes reference to VED use with cycling. A well known Florida doctor was listed in a study with VED use with cycling and early activation. The AMS LGX was used and infrapubic surgery was done. This showed no loss of size pre vs. post op. https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/d88 ... action.pdf
There is also a paper that was done on what is called the coffin effect. This happens with later activation and is shown to cause size loss from pre op. So not sure how much of the my above reference has to do with VED or how much with early activation. https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... prosthesis
So for the OP, as you have a Coloplast things may be different. And also may be different for men who have penoscrotal surgery. The Coloplast is said to have more tubbing failures. So that may be an issue. Other things such as scrotal plasty or other issues may make activation longer for healing and longer wait for VED use. And an incision above the base of the penis for infrapubic surgery would permit early activation as well as VED use. But all this is up to the doctor and the patient.
As far as over pumping an implant I don't think you can.
My AMS DVD makes reference to VED use with cycling. A well known Florida doctor was listed in a study with VED use with cycling and early activation. The AMS LGX was used and infrapubic surgery was done. This showed no loss of size pre vs. post op. https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/d88 ... action.pdf
There is also a paper that was done on what is called the coffin effect. This happens with later activation and is shown to cause size loss from pre op. So not sure how much of the my above reference has to do with VED or how much with early activation. https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... prosthesis
So for the OP, as you have a Coloplast things may be different. And also may be different for men who have penoscrotal surgery. The Coloplast is said to have more tubbing failures. So that may be an issue. Other things such as scrotal plasty or other issues may make activation longer for healing and longer wait for VED use. And an incision above the base of the penis for infrapubic surgery would permit early activation as well as VED use. But all this is up to the doctor and the patient.
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Re: CAN A PERSON OVER PUMP ?
I've wondered about the over pumping issue, or if maybe my pump may be malfunctioning occasionally. I can pump til it gets hard, but then it will give and allow me to pump again pretty much indefinitely and the bulb doesn't ever get fully hard again (but it does spring back), but the implant starts to go a bit soft but I'm still pumping. If I reset the pump and let a little out the cylinders and then click it back over to pumping mode, it will then often work and pump up til the bulb is hard and won't pump anymore, and my dick is pretty rigid. If you pump too hard does it sometimes click it over and the force you are pumping is pushing the fluid back the other way into the reservoir again? Wish I had xray vision to be able to see what the pump is doing while it's inflating.
51 yrs old. E.D. issues started around age 35, combo venous leak/testicular failure. Bilateral testicular implants for severely atrophic testes. Implanted 6/11/20 Dr. Kramer LGX 21cm + 1.
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