Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

[Wooody]

Maybe if I were a medicared 70 y/o swinger I would've cheerled but it would make me a cheap asshole if I tried to dismiss young men trying to reclaim their lives or avoid suicide.

But again if you are one of those who don't think much about tommorrow then ipp might fit you more.

Why do you have to add this shit to your post? Up to that point you were rational and respectful to the OP and other forum members. Then you make it about putting down others.

No one has been dismissing young men trying to reclaim their lives or avoid suicide. Knock it off. I see members trying to answer questoins and sharing experiences and opinions.

When mark1974 said he was researching euthanasia after getting his MPP, the brotherhood here tried to help him. Yes, even the "medicared 70 y/o swingers" tried to help.

Can't you see that many of us are here, after our surgeries, to share our experiences? And yes many of us cheerlead because we've changed our lives and overcame ED with an implant and are LOVING IT! That's a bad thing?

We're also here to help those who have questions. I'm not going to be here much longer though, especially dealing with posters like you. I'm going to go live my life, away from ED problems and subjects.

There's a ton of other posters that are MIA that I saw regularly 6 months, 12 months ago, years and years ago when I look back in time on this forum. Why aren't they around? You think if they had problems and needed revisions they wouldn't come back here? They are out enjoying themselves - problem free.

Everyone with problems, newly implanted, and those considering implants are here regularly.. and a very few old timers that pop in and out.. but they are unicorns, as you say.

You don't think we think about tomorrow? I guarantee you everyone here thinks about tomorrow. What a BS thing to say.

To JohnnyBorg: Sorry for all this "fog", as tooyoung would say, in your thread.

Good luck to you future brother!

[tooyoung]

Maybe if I were a medicared 70 y/o swinger I would've cheerled but it would make me a cheap asshole if I tried to dismiss young men trying to reclaim their lives or avoid suicide.

But again if you are one of those who don't think much about tommorrow then ipp might fit you more.

Why do you have to add this shit to your post? Up to that point you were rational and respectful to the OP and other forum members. Then you make it about putting down others.

No one has been dismissing young men trying to reclaim their lives or avoid suicide. Knock it off. I see members trying to answer questoins and sharing experiences and opinions.

When mark1974 said he was researching euthanasia after getting his MPP, the brotherhood here tried to help him. Yes, even the "medicared 70 y/o swingers" tried to help.

Can't you see that many of us are here, after our surgeries, to share our experiences? And yes many of us cheerlead because we've changed our lives and overcame ED with an implant and are LOVING IT! That's a bad thing?

We're also here to help those who have questions. I'm not going to be here much longer though, especially dealing with posters like you. I'm going to go live my life, away from ED problems and subjects.

There's a ton of other posters that are MIA that I saw regularly 6 months, 12 months ago, years and years ago when I look back in time on this forum. Why aren't they around? You think if they had problems and needed revisions they wouldn't come back here? They are out enjoying themselves - problem free.

Everyone with problems, newly implanted, and those considering implants are here regularly.. and a very few old timers that pop in and out.. but they are unicorns, as you say.

You don't think we think about tomorrow? I guarantee you everyone here thinks about tomorrow. What a BS thing to say.

To JohnnyBorg: Sorry for all this "fog", as tooyoung would say, in your thread.

Good luck to you future brother!

Again trying endlessly to be non-objective..My claim was that the young have different challenges than old timers who are enjoying their retirement...so we should take a 70 y/o gentleman cheerleading with a grain of salt...and I already said maybe if I were in that context I would have done the same...but dismissal is what I don't tolerate and never will allow...whenever a young man shows concerns about revisions...the Idealists raid and troll accusations launch...don't you think that's dismissivness ???

I'm not talking about fake compassion like wishing mark1974 good luck and expressing how sad they feel about him...real compassion I'm refering to is not poping out everytime and creating a fog with every critical appraisal attempt...MAYBE if the appropriate feedback had been delivered mark1974 would have recieved a durable ipp and now not booking euthanasia tickets....I've known alot of young men who didn't accept either ipp durability or the "proclaimed" inferiority of mpp and killed themselves instead...and this is waay before i engaged with the true sick minds here.

I never attacked any cheerleader celebrating 6 months of IPP ON DEMAND COCK WOHOOO GOING $TR0NKKk BE$T TTING I EVER DID TO MYSELF and stating confidently at the same fucking time that these stay 15 years without even witnessing a single case that did except for Parmendis whose 2nd revison failed after 5 months.

I only argue the toxic and deadly statements not the people woody....I lost hope that you could see the difference but I have to reiterate unfortunately.

[tooyoung]

Why aren't they around? You think if they had problems and needed revisions they wouldn't come back here? They are out enjoying themselves - problem free.

5 letters : MAUDE

Everyone with problems, newly implanted, and those considering implants are here regularly.. and a very few old timers that pop in and out.. but they are unicorns, as you say.

Won't they after 15-20 years have a problem and return here? You tell me where have they been after 15-20 of ipp use?..isn't the implant business 50 years old ? Where are the 15-20 years survivors if they are too many as many here parrot ?..DETECTED NEITHER BY MAUDE OR FORUMS....can you please look closely at what you are saying and have some courtesy to declare that this point is obvious ?

You don't think we think about tomorrow? I guarantee you everyone here thinks about tomorrow. What a BS thing to say.

Yeah many times cheerleaders expressed such statements....don't tell me you haven't heared them celebrating the mentality of like there's no tomorrow..And I can see why...but everytime i bring up medicare and fullfilled career family and lives you get triggered.

[ElbowRoom]

I'm not talking about fake compassion like wishing mark1974 good luck and expressing how sad they feel about him...real compassion I'm refering to is not poping out everytime and creating a fog with every critical appraisal attempt.

Why are you like this? Everybody’s compassion is fake because you say so, and you’re the only person here with genuine feelings? Why can’t you just let others be happy, even people who make choices you don’t agree with and somehow still like those choices?

[dj_soros]

You can’t even really know if there *is* an mpp crowd. Certainly some of them are not the troll, Duke Cicero springs to mind, and I don’t think Last Hope or Ready2Go are either, but how can you know?

You mentioned this is happening on Reddit, too. I briefly perused the Reddit ED boards about a year ago, and noticed that it was a cesspool full of disinformation trolls. Just absolute tons of them. I started suggesting to real sufferers that they go to FrankTalk instead. But apparently that has all followed us here.

This is such a wild and almost insulting take.
Tooyoung has already responded before me so I guess me also jumping is "more proof". Whatever, I'll play the role I was given.

Just two new people, neisseriaceae and myself, within the past three weeks, happened to express contentment or rationale for MPPs for our specific situations, and suddenly you believe this site has been infiltrated by an army of trolls. So fragile...

You're also almost implying that MPPs are so idiotic that almost anyone who suggests or opts for one isn't in their right mind and should be suspected of trolling until proven otherwise. What exactly passes your sniff test? Neisseriaceae has provided pictures and solid evidence dating back to 2013, yet he's still somehow an alt account. Duke_Cicero never posted pictures of himself, but I guess he checks out because he defended IPP reliability against Tooyoung months ago. My reasons for choosing an MPP are pretty much the same as Duke's, yet I'm a troll...

So as long as someone introduces themselves and at least considers an IPP or airs some pro-IPP sentiment or MPP hesitancy, then they're cleared of suspicion? Future trolls, take notes!

Your perceptions are delusional and somewhat cultish. Why isn't JohnnyBorg considered an alt? This post could be a long con to invite MPP trolls, disguised under the guise of considering an IPP to not trigger LetoMan's paranoia. Granted, I guess he did follow the protocol! But as you said with AI anyone can be an imposter! Again, easymoney can confirm my activity but he could be an imposter too!?!

Were you only expecting pro-IPP comments even though he's considering BOTH options? Yet me providing my input is considered suspicious. How dare I attend the open house!

I also don't know what you're talking about regarding Reddit. I've browsed the ED subreddit DAILY for nearly the past two years, hoping someone would find a "cure." It's mostly no-fappers, anti-porn puritans, people recycling the same BS herbal cocktail remedies, and endless "is my ED physical or psychological/what should I do?" posts. Many users there seem anti-implant and believe they can cure their (presumably organic) ED by not touching their penis for 90-100000+ days, altering their hormones, or with some other non clinically backed treatment. I wouldn't consider that trolling, but being misguided. But I guess difference of opinion or viewpoint is considered trolling in your eyes.

[tooyoung]

I'm not talking about fake compassion like wishing mark1974 good luck and expressing how sad they feel about him...real compassion I'm refering to is not poping out everytime and creating a fog with every critical appraisal attempt.

Why are you like this? Everybody’s compassion is fake because you say so, and you’re the only person here with genuine feelings? Why can’t you just let others be happy, even people who make choices you don’t agree with and somehow still like those choices?

I'm tapped out.

[ready2go]

i typed out a long reply and it was deleted when i went to post it
so ill say , i like my malleable , its simple reliable . no excuse me while i go pump . .its stiff . it is not uncomfortable . Concealment issue is overblown by doctors who make more money on ipp's
the one negative is loss of girth . but for $2500,i found an androfill clinic here in the Philippines . so in a few weeks ,ill have my original fat girth back AND a reliable 24/7 hard on . just one second to pull him up and it's guaranteed go time .
For me i couldn't fathom all the potential unreliable hardware going inside me ,and the accompanying involved surgery . Then eventually having to do it all over again .
by the way my tactra does not "bend" . cow girl ,reverse cow girl, doggie . all butt cheek slapping good fun .
i cant comment on inflatables since i dont have one . the temptation with a ipp would be the possibility to regain any previous lost size . but i only need to regain girth . and thats coming up shortly .

Hey ready2go, appreciate your comment and yeah ive seen your posts in some of the big malleable threads (DukeCicero’s comes to mind).

The simplicity of the MPP is definitely appealing. And I’m VERY interested in following the outcomes of your girth enhancement! This is something I also have considered, and for me I think it could go a very long way. The procedure I considered was for Urofill, although I know that requires a fairly regular “top up”. I think Hakky offers Urofill but I might be mistaken.

Regardless, I think that a procedure like that to increase girth could go hand in hand with a solid malleable implant. Something for me to keep in mind if I end up going with the MPP but experience poor girth outcomes.

I'm pretty sure I read dr Pietro ? say that those with an implant ,tend to retain the HA fillers longer .so that's good.
and mentally, im ready to get that done this week.
But fock me , I'm recovered enough from the snapped ankle from last October to be able to get around unassisted., then unbelievable bad luck . On the veranda ,i have this kitten i rescued ,its [was] a rambunctious little troublemaker . Fake attacks me when i go out ,gets into everything.etc .
It's black and was laying on a black t shirt and I stepped on it full body weight .she screamed ,I jumped , she jumped, and what are the odds ? i stepped hard on her again.
This time i fell backwards off the elevated veranda floor . hit my head on the concrete fence and royally fucked my back up . i have a pinched nerve now for 2 days and its not getting better . i managed to go outside, and the kitten didn't make it .
But now i have to wait for this new shiite to be done with , before i can go anywhere .although it was good news to find an androfill incountry . one relatively short plane ride from one island to another
ok rant over .
anyways , i think we have 2 good choices between the ipp and mpp
for me the mpp being "readyto go " 24/7 was appealing to me .
and i am happy with aspect .
the ipp sounds good, with members reporting it can be pumped hard as a rock . and some reporting gaining back their pre-op size .
But it has that one caveat of it malfunctioning and when, no one knows .
i hope these implant companies get their act together . and make tubes that don't come off or leak , pumps that don't stick and fail. And cylinders that don't spring
leaks . Either way good luck with whatever type you choose .

[duke_cicero]

Let me get this straight — there's an argument that I'm a shill for malleable penile prostheses? Lol. I fucking wish. Anyone willing to write me a check, DM me and I'll send you my PO box address.

Yes, and at one point I argued for the durability and longevity of the IPP, as well, against certain detractors. I guess I'm being paid by both sides? What a gig. Would that everyone would be so lucky, scoring huge payments from a relatively niche medical device manufacturer that hardly anyone in the general public knows about.

My personal understanding of risk tolerance is such that I went for the MPP. It was also cheaper, and I was paying out of pocket.

Pretty simple equation.

Next.

[pumpless_mtfckr]

Well now, sugar, tell me straight as a fence post in July, how much did them implant folks slip in your pocket to hush up us few MPP fellas who are still dealin with the rough end of the stick? Shame on spineless jellyfish of a fella, who called me an alt account or alt person, bless his heart, who could not tell a lug nut from a lightning bug and would not touch technical detail with a ten foot pole, just slappin’ the “troll” or “alt account” sticker on anybody who tips their hat to MPPs.... I'm a real person for Christ's sake....he ain’t got a leg to stand on nor a point worth a possum’s whisker, just waggin’ a finger like a yard rooster at sunrise, so how ’bout he lines up my points one by one and refutes ’em proper instead of flappin’ his gums, stand up and answer, you spineless jellyfish, you insecure boot licker anti-MPP troll. I ain't seeking validation from your lowly self. Well now.... let me pour this tall glass of storytelling in one long breath without any of them ass licking political correct diplomacy, because down where the cicadas sing and the porch fans click like metronomes we talk plain about fancy contraptions and how they behave in the wild, and an IPP is a mighty clever gadget that can still act like a coon dog with its nose stuck in a hornets nest if the day goes sideways, since right there on the operating table you can get the sort of mishaps nobody orders off a menu like poking where you ought not perforations crossovers or tapping the urethra by accident especially if the tissue has turned tougher than beef jerky from Uncle Dales bait shop and jerky emporium and then in the first couple weeks you might see infections that demand the wash rinse replace two step the kind of medical boot scoot where the doctor hauls the old hardware out bathes the scene in enough antiseptic to knock a buzzard off a gut wagon and sets a fresh device so you can get back to living, and sometimes you get a hematoma that swells like Aunt Pearls biscuit dough or a wound that looks grumpy but settles down if you treat it gentle and keep it pointed north in snug drawers, and once in a blue moon the blood flow to the tip acts stingy which is not the time to philosophize it is the time to go now, and pain is normal like the morning after the county fair but it ought to ease day by day and if it does not you check for trouble because sometimes a little nerve is hollering or the gadget is sitting funny like a lawn chair with a bent leg, and then months or years later those gizmo gremlins can sneak in, a cylinder can spring a leak like a feed trough with a nail hole or puff a little aneurysm like a bullfrog showing off by the pond, tubing can kink like a garden hose nobody rolled proper, a pump can seize stiffer than molasses in January, a reservoir can dribble or wander where it has no invitation, and once in a blue moon a reservoir will put on hiking boots and go visiting near spaces that belong to your bladder or your bowel which will make a preacher use lively language, and there is that trickster called autoinflation where pressure whispers howdy when you were not in the mood, and sometimes the glans can flop like the nose of the old Concorde jet folks jokingly call that SST and it can be fixed with a little stitch work or by nudging the cylinders just so, and some folks notice differences in length or girth or the feel of things and that can be part expectation part biology and part where the cylinders sit in your particular map of anatomy, and yes a handful of people get long running aches that need a detective with gloves on to look for scar tethers or a nerve acting like a fire ant mound after a rain, but all in all with coatings and careful no touch technique and a surgeon who has done more implants than there are tail lights at Talladega the big scary stuff is uncommon and the broken parts can mostly be swapped like a water pump on a trusty V6, still let me tell you why a plain spoken MPP can be the better mule for many riders and I will do it with two stories that smell like pecan smoke, first there was Mr Bo McCray who ran the bait counter and could not feel the tips of his fingers since that winter he tried to thaw a frozen well pump with a space heater and a prayer, the man could fillet a crappie by muscle memory but tiny buttons beat him like a rigged carnival game, he got the MPP and was grinning before the sutures melted because there was no secret handshake needed no squeeze squeeze release rhythm no little valve hiding like a cricket he just bent it up for business and down for blue jeans and kept right on selling minnows, then there was Big Luther who had scarred up corpora from the long hard road of prior surgeries and infections the way a storm carves gullies into a dirt road, the doctor said an IPP might be possible but would require excavation like digging a well by hand and the risk might ride higher than a goat on a stump, so Luther chose the MPP and that simple steel spined fence post of a device went in quicker than a rumor at a church picnic and healed fine because there is not much to break and not many places for bacteria to hide once the wound is closed, and if infection does try to make a comeback MPPs are simpler to salvage and swap in the same sitting like changing a tire instead of rebuilding a transmission, and when we talk about living day to day in a world where the dog eats one shoe the truck needs an alternator and the credit card statement reads like a mystery novel a simpler device means fewer moving parts to betray you on date night, the MPP does not ask you to remember which way to squeeze if the lights are out it does not hide a reservoir up where a hernia might fancy a handshake it does not care if your grip strength is down or your hands are cold as fence posts in February, it just shows up ready like a pocketknife your granddaddy sharpened on the back steps, now I will tip my hat to the IPP because when it works it can be slicker than a new bass boat with hydraulic trim giving lifelike inflation and discreet carry and all that modern magic, but for a fellow who wants rugged dependability low drama fewer surgical minutes fewer ports of entry for the mischief fairy and an easier path if infection ever crashes the party the MPP plays the tune of reliability, it costs less up front it is friendlier when you're laid off from your precious job and scar tissue already turned the neighborhood into hardpan, and it keeps trucking year after year because there just is not much in there to quit, like my cousin Wade says about his farm tractor compared to the fancy city cousin with the convertible you can drive the tractor through a creek a briar patch and a county line and it still starts after lunch, same vibe here friend, bend up for business bend down for chores and get on with living without wondering if the pump feels like cooperating today, and before you ask no the MPP is not a magic wand that adds inches the way fishing tales add pounds to the catch but it is a straight shooting partner that will not leave you stranded on the shoulder of lifes highway, so if your priorities are durability simplicity quicker surgery easier salvage and less fiddly business than a hummingbird on espresso then the MPP is the superior choice for plenty of real world cowboys and porch philosophers and bait shop poets alike and that is the whole story told in one long breath like Grandpa Earl settin' the record straight while the fireflies come out over the pasture and the sweet tea glass sweats a ring on the table

[dj_soros]

Let me get this straight — there's an argument that I'm a shill for malleable penile prostheses? Lol. I fucking wish. Anyone willing to write me a check, DM me and I'll send you my PO box address.

Yes, and at one point I argued for the durability and longevity of the IPP, as well, against certain detractors. I guess I'm being paid by both sides? What a gig. Would that everyone would be so lucky, scoring huge payments from a relatively niche medical device manufacturer that hardly anyone in the general public knows about.

My personal understanding of risk tolerance is such that I went for the MPP. It was also cheaper, and I was paying out of pocket.

Pretty simple equation.

Next.

Hi Duke

Just to clarify: I never implied you were a shill or in any way being paid by third parties?? My comment was speculating that Leto probably mentioned you as one of the only few true malleable guys because you "famously" argued against Tooyoung's IPP reliability (or lack thereof) claims, which I think boosted your credibility in his eyes. Otherwise, all other notable malleable crowd or new people who are in any way IPP-hesitant or pro-malleable should be considered suspected alts/troll accounts. Did you not hear of the sudden epidemic of trolls/alts?

I was pointing out that my reasons for choosing the MPP were the same as yours, with an added detailed breakdown on how US health insurance can leave me bankrupt, and wanted to minimize my risk. Yet I'm somehow on an anti-IPP crusade and labeled an alt/troll account.