Advice Needed

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CanGetItUpButNotOff
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Re: Advice Needed

Postby CanGetItUpButNotOff » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:24 pm

Curious2 wrote:As far as injections, I'm using a 5/16 inch needle and I press the hub into the skin so there is a dimple before pressing the plunger. Also, I have to skip the 3 and 9 o'clock spots due to having prominent veins at those locations. So a little past 3 or 9 o'clock. Or above 3 and 9 o'clock. My girth seems small compared to the measurements I've read on here so I just can't imagine trying a 1/2" needle. How deep does the corpora cavernosa lie beneath the skin? Surely, pressing the 5/16 needle in and causing a dimple is deep enough?


Let's talk dick geometry. This is totally unscientific and not based on any credible theory but my wild musings. But this convo prompted me to do some measurements. Almost all discussion of girth is based on circumference which is close to meaningless when addressing needle depth, more so when r measurement is erect when we are talking about a flaccid injection.. Flaccid, my boy is 1½ inches, measured side-to-side (like I assume most are, mine is oval shaped, more wide than tall). Analyzing the internal geometry and just to apply some scope to the hypothesis, I'll say that a generous allotment would be ¼ inch for the urethra on the bottom and nerves on the top; this leaves 1¼ inch for the two cavernosa combined (plus tunica and skin, etc) left and right side or ⅝ inch each.

If my hypothesis holds, then from either left or right, there is ⅝ inch from the exterior to the internal end of the cavernosa. A 5/16 inch needle would end right at the center of the cavernosa. So for me and my dimensions, I consider 5/16 to be perfect.

I concede there are a lot of holes in this theoretical approach, but it gives me a notional understanding of where to start in needle length selection.
Born 1954. Diabetes, hypertension and atherosclerosis. Sildenafil is iffy. Tri-Mix (30/3/20 Pap/Phen/PGE1) a godsend pending long-term efficacy. Daily Cialis. Tried LiESWT, Botox, PT-141, Eroxon, QST, DUS, Vertica, cabergoline, psychotherapy+hypnotherapy.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby Curious2 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:13 am

CanGetItUpButNotOff wrote:
Curious2 wrote:As far as injections, I'm using a 5/16 inch needle and I press the hub into the skin so there is a dimple before pressing the plunger. Also, I have to skip the 3 and 9 o'clock spots due to having prominent veins at those locations. So a little past 3 or 9 o'clock. Or above 3 and 9 o'clock. My girth seems small compared to the measurements I've read on here so I just can't imagine trying a 1/2" needle. How deep does the corpora cavernosa lie beneath the skin? Surely, pressing the 5/16 needle in and causing a dimple is deep enough?


Let's talk dick geometry. This is totally unscientific and not based on any credible theory but my wild musings. But this convo prompted me to do some measurements. Almost all discussion of girth is based on circumference which is close to meaningless when addressing needle depth, more so when r measurement is erect when we are talking about a flaccid injection.. Flaccid, my boy is 1½ inches, measured side-to-side (like I assume most are, mine is oval shaped, more wide than tall). Analyzing the internal geometry and just to apply some scope to the hypothesis, I'll say that a generous allotment would be ¼ inch for the urethra on the bottom and nerves on the top; this leaves 1¼ inch for the two cavernosa combined (plus tunica and skin, etc) left and right side or ⅝ inch each.

If my hypothesis holds, then from either left or right, there is ⅝ inch from the exterior to the internal end of the cavernosa. A 5/16 inch needle would end right at the center of the cavernosa. So for me and my dimensions, I consider 5/16 to be perfect.

I concede there are a lot of holes in this theoretical approach, but it gives me a notional understanding of where to start in needle length selection.


Thanks. I like your "theoretical approach" and critical thinking.
"my boy is 1½ inches, measured side-to-side (like I assume most are, mine is oval shaped, more wide than tall)". Pretty much like mine.
I found through a web search that a 5/16" needle is appropriate for any size.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby Curious2 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:23 am

bldoink wrote:
Curious2 wrote:

If the mix works with a ring then that's the way it works. Stubborn! I use a 5/16" needle and it works for me. Some guys do need the longer needle. The target isn't all that deep but I think 1/2" users are more common. The key thing to look for is plunger resistance. If you have more resistance than you would depressing the plunger into air then you're not in the correct spot. As for your flaccid girth I don't seem to recall too many guys posting their flaccid girth. It's usually their erect girth they're measuring.


Maybe I am stubborn but I want to see if the meds will work without a ring first. I'm not saying I won't try one eventually. Just not until I've exhausted this trial. If the meds will work, I've saved myself the process of having to fiddle with a ring and limit myself to 30 minutes.
According to the pharmacy, I'm supposed to try the meds all the way to 40-50 units and if they don't work, they will reformulate the meds.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby bldoink » Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:48 am

Curious2 wrote:
bldoink wrote:...If the meds will work, I've saved myself the process of having to fiddle with a ring and limit myself to 30 minutes...

Last word on this; unlike the medical grade constriction rings, the properly sized novelty/sex shop cock ring is not limited to the time limit. You're not cutting off all blood flow, you're just slowing down the out flow. They are often worn for extended periods of time. Obviously if it hurts, is making your dick cold or it's turning blue or dark, then it's too constrictive and would fall under the strict time limit.
RRP 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. Wehle. Non nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 7 - 16 units. Originally Edex20 or 40, then compounded PGE1 due to cost. Inject. 14 yrs. It works. FL Treasure coast.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby TCloud » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:27 pm

I am on my beginning journey as well. I'm posting to help answer anything as well as take advice. I started just over a week ago. My prescribed formula is 30mg/1mg/10mcg. Per instructions I started at 5 and bumped up by 5 units each time until desired results. I'm hoping to take my 6th shot this weekend which will be 30units. Each time I have increased i have seen improvements over the previous. At the 25units I would say I had about 80% rigidness for about an hour then about maybe 60% for another 45minutes to an hour. I too am working on the 14 day trial period. I'm thinking at 30 units depending on the results I am reaching out on Monday to discuss a possible formula increase.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby Curious2 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:10 pm

TCloud wrote:I am on my beginning journey as well. I'm posting to help answer anything as well as take advice. I started just over a week ago. My prescribed formula is 30mg/1mg/10mcg. Per instructions I started at 5 and bumped up by 5 units each time until desired results. I'm hoping to take my 6th shot this weekend which will be 30units. Each time I have increased i have seen improvements over the previous. At the 25units I would say I had about 80% rigidness for about an hour then about maybe 60% for another 45minutes to an hour. I too am working on the 14 day trial period. I'm thinking at 30 units depending on the results I am reaching out on Monday to discuss a possible formula increase.


I've given up on the 14 day trial period. I haven't injected in 3 days due to things getting really busy here. Maybe tomorrow. May I ask what size needle are you using and have you had any misses?
Keep posting your results if you would. I'm interested in your results and dosages.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby TCloud » Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:58 pm

No problem. It's nice to have a place to bounce real world situarions to ask and get answers and feel alone or lost. I am using a 1/2" needle. I did use one of the wife's 5/16 needle once on the lower dose. I do not think I have any i misses. I thought I might have in the beginning, but that I'm sure was just not enough units.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby ElbowRoom » Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:42 pm

Curious2 wrote:
TCloud wrote:I am on my beginning journey as well. I'm posting to help answer anything as well as take advice. I started just over a week ago. My prescribed formula is 30mg/1mg/10mcg. Per instructions I started at 5 and bumped up by 5 units each time until desired results. I'm hoping to take my 6th shot this weekend which will be 30units. Each time I have increased i have seen improvements over the previous. At the 25units I would say I had about 80% rigidness for about an hour then about maybe 60% for another 45minutes to an hour. I too am working on the 14 day trial period. I'm thinking at 30 units depending on the results I am reaching out on Monday to discuss a possible formula increase.


I've given up on the 14 day trial period. I haven't injected in 3 days due to things getting really busy here. Maybe tomorrow. May I ask what size needle are you using and have you had any misses?
Keep posting your results if you would. I'm interested in your results and dosages.


I had a few misses when I first started injections, and got no results from the injection that time. I read some forums about this, and I determined the best way is to use a VED, pump your penis up nice and hard, using a ring to keep it that way. They you can inject with the cavernosa expanded so you can’t really miss.

Then take the ring off, and rub your penis around to distribute the medicine, and wait for liftoff.

This is how I’ve been doing it for years, and just had confirmed by doppler that I have no fibrosis, scarring, or Peyronie’s disease.
58yo in good shape looking at Coloplast Titan. Tri-Mix still works but is a drag.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby CanGetItUpButNotOff » Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:38 pm

ElbowRoom wrote:This is how I’ve been doing it for years, and just had confirmed by doppler that I have no fibrosis, scarring, or Peyronie’s disease.

I wasn't aware DUS could detect fibrosis or scarring. Good to know.
Born 1954. Diabetes, hypertension and atherosclerosis. Sildenafil is iffy. Tri-Mix (30/3/20 Pap/Phen/PGE1) a godsend pending long-term efficacy. Daily Cialis. Tried LiESWT, Botox, PT-141, Eroxon, QST, DUS, Vertica, cabergoline, psychotherapy+hypnotherapy.

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Re: Advice Needed

Postby ElbowRoom » Mon Apr 21, 2025 10:41 am

CanGetItUpButNotOff wrote:
ElbowRoom wrote:This is how I’ve been doing it for years, and just had confirmed by doppler that I have no fibrosis, scarring, or Peyronie’s disease.

I wasn't aware DUS could detect fibrosis or scarring. Good to know.


Not sure what you mean by DUS. What I meant was that this technique of pumping and then shooting doesn't seem to have caused me any negative effects.
58yo in good shape looking at Coloplast Titan. Tri-Mix still works but is a drag.


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