Are you happy with your implant?

[LetoMan]

Man, tooyoung. I hate to be discourteous to a brother, but every time I read your theories I can just feel the world getting dumber.

Young guys are less satisfied with implants because they have multiple revisions? Nobody here with 20 years with an implant is evidence they don't exist?

For someone who alleges to be a doctor, I can’t understand how you can have this bad of an understanding of scientific method, even if you are faking it.

The first posts on this site were in 2010. So guys who got implanted twenty years ago likely don’t even know this site exists, much less post here to satisfy your exigency of evidence of their existence. If this site is like most sites, its audience has grown over time. Huh… I wonder if a growing audience on this site might correlate with an expressed recency of implantation? Ya think?

25,000 dudes get implanted every year in the US alone. And there’s what… several dozen regular posters here? Why anyone would think that self selected bunch constitutes a representative sample is nuts.

Look, it would be very courteous to simply politely point out your failures of reasoning. But you are doing people a serious disservice by giving them really, really bad information. Unfortunately, that is a problem across the internet: contrarians that like to hear themselves talk. We call them trolls. Do your own research, sheeple.

Guys: please get your info on failure rates, revisions, satisfaction, etcetera, from your doctor and ignore the trolls. Sheesh.

Be well,
Leto

[dan_bionic]

Man, tooyoung. I hate to be discourteous to a brother, but every time I read your theories I can just feel the world getting dumber.

Young guys are less satisfied with implants because they have multiple revisions? Nobody here with 20 years with an implant is evidence they don't exist?

For someone who alleges to be a doctor, I can’t understand how you can have this bad of an understanding of scientific method, even if you are faking it.

The first posts on this site were in 2010. So guys who got implanted twenty years ago likely don’t even know this site exists, much less post here to satisfy your exigency of evidence of their existence. If this site is like most sites, its audience has grown over time. Huh… I wonder if a growing audience on this site might correlate with an expressed recency of implantation? Ya think?

25,000 dudes get implanted every year in the US alone. And there’s what… several dozen regular posters here? Why anyone would think that self selected bunch constitutes a representative sample is nuts.

Look, it would be very courteous to simply politely point out your failures of reasoning. But you are doing people a serious disservice by giving them really, really bad information. Unfortunately, that is a problem across the internet: contrarians that like to hear themselves talk. We call them trolls. Do your own research, sheeple.

Guys: please get your info on failure rates, revisions, satisfaction, etcetera, from your doctor and ignore the trolls. Sheesh.

Be well,
Leto

Well said Leto, agree 100%.
If you suffer ED, get your implant ASAP and start fucking, life is short!
Dan

[Discovernew]

Seeing some of these posts with guys that are having issues with numbness and loss of sensitivity, I really feel for those guys.
It has made me wonder if all these videos I see on YouTube, mainly always by urologists are legit about all the positive outcomes and patient satisfaction

I don't believe at all the satisfaction rates. This is like believing when a car salesman tells you 99% of people are satisfied by the car they sell. Of course they will say that.

i see people who got it right from the first time and they are super happy. But they are so many people who had complications and so many revisions. It is really worth exhausting all options before considering an implant. It's a one way road.

[Discovernew]

It would be interesting to differentiate between younger and more senior patients.

I feel like everybody over 50 is overjoyed like a child from the penile implant while it is more the younger guys who struggle - maybe because they had some residual erectile function, maybe because they need more revisions over life time.

Anybody agrees?

Exactly....thank you for this.

In my opinion, young men's dissatisfaction stems from two major thoughts.

First, the decades ahead in which they must sustain a career and family—essentially life itself—while living with the anxiety of complications that could render their penises ‘end stage’ (a term used by urologists to describe a penis where no further implant is possible)—a very real possibility after repeated revisions. This would not only halt intimacy but disrupt their entire lives. A career could come to a standstill as the overwhelming psychological burden reaches no joke suicidal levels. Children, possibly still in kindergarten, would be caught in a painful limbo—leaving is not an option, yet being fully present for them feels impossible. A wife, inevitably faced with such circumstances, might cheat or at the very least wish to. Even those who choose single life will be dreaded by the fact that "typical life" would be hard and full of anxiety.
On the other hand , a retired old man with fullfiled career, money/insurance , grandkids who sometimes are old enough to be able to sustain themselves , and a wife who's less demanding should absolutely be delighted by a bonus on top of his fullfiled life in general, sexual life and even fullfiled fantasies long ago sometimes....especially when completion of average life span is around the corner or have already surpassed it.

And I'm talking the averages here...I don't want a politically correct youngster telling me he doesn't have the slightest anxiety or a grandpa who's running the country and having a nympho wife telling me he's living the same fear as a youngster would....or that wise freak who would tell accident could happen anytime...a time bomb straped to your belt in your 20s/30s is a whole different game than 70s/80s....it needs serious attention and critical thinking.


Secondly, the frustration of having gone bionic while many men three times their age or sometimes quadraple can fuck without a problem...not to mention their friends/colleagues...

These are 2 major thoughts that make young men dread penile implants...mostly questioning their reliability rather than being ungrateful for their presence.

Studies mostly show 85-95% satisfaction rates...cool..but let's not forget that mean age for the subjects in these studies are 60s....not 50s..not 40s...let alone 20s/30s...and the fact that these numbers assess satisfaction mostly 1 year post op and no study asses it years post implantation especially post revisions.....I wouldn't be surprised if that number is half for youngsters...


P.s I'm excluding in this comparison old men who had ED since young age

Too young, how realistic is that possibility of "end stage". I mean, i remember reading a comment by Clavell saying he had a patient that had 10 revisions without even an infection. It's not like after a certain amount of revisions your life is over.

If we go to extreme cases, even women who want to become trans men, can get a penis, even if they never had one (you can see Dr Djinovic's videos for example).

So, the word "end stage" seems a bit harsh for me. What circumstance would that be in real life?

[Discovernew]

It would be interesting to differentiate between younger and more senior patients.

I feel like everybody over 50 is overjoyed like a child from the penile implant while it is more the younger guys who struggle - maybe because they had some residual erectile function, maybe because they need more revisions over life time.

Anybody agrees?

A general urologist told me that those who still have quality residual erections after the implant tend to be more satisfied, and in his opinion the happiest of all are those with prior history of venous leak who were able to achieve a solid erection but struggled to keep it and then went for the implant.

If it were not for the residual encorgement and nerves still firing well for experiencing sensitivity and pleasure, a strap-on fuck session would still do the job.

The degree of complications one has had can also tank the reviews.

Think of a car that was a lemon with a lot of defects (sexual dysfunction - psychogenic, congenital vascular defects.....) from the outset versus a car that has proven a solid 70,000 miles on the road but just needs a transmission repair and it gets back to normal again after the repair/swap.

Also, the quality of sexual relationship (stable/dating) one has, the esteem cues he gets from partners, success in other areas in life..... can confound the reviews projected on these implants.

100% agree with you. On my previous implant i had engorgement but on my latest revision i lost it. I am ver worried about it.

[Discovernew]

TooYoung wrote:

True it's a good sign that we haven't seen many who reached this stage...

TooYoung, I actually recall 1 member (I think rolltide?) whose infected Titan was taken out and left unreplaced for two years (can't imagine why), scar tissue hardened the corpora, and the surgeon wouldn’t attempt a salvage malleable because drilling through all that fibrosis risked tearing the urethra. If that happened to me, why would I even stay on FrankTalk, let alone bother answering satisfaction surveys!

Yes I think user "principles" also reached end of the line with his implants as well. He had gone through 4 implants in 3 years and was scheduling his 5th, all due to infections. He has not posted since 2023 and I hope he's doing ok, with or without an implant.

I pray this guy is doing well and actually did get an implant. I wonder if anyone in the forum ever communicated with him via PM?

Even in my darkest moments in life, the thing that has always kept me going is thinking "there is a solution in the horizon". If someone is told they are "end stage" and the solution isn't even available at all, must be absolutely devastating.

[Discovernew]

Man, tooyoung. I hate to be discourteous to a brother, but every time I read your theories I can just feel the world getting dumber.

Young guys are less satisfied with implants because they have multiple revisions? Nobody here with 20 years with an implant is evidence they don't exist?

For someone who alleges to be a doctor, I can’t understand how you can have this bad of an understanding of scientific method, even if you are faking it.

The first posts on this site were in 2010. So guys who got implanted twenty years ago likely don’t even know this site exists, much less post here to satisfy your exigency of evidence of their existence. If this site is like most sites, its audience has grown over time. Huh… I wonder if a growing audience on this site might correlate with an expressed recency of implantation? Ya think?

25,000 dudes get implanted every year in the US alone. And there’s what… several dozen regular posters here? Why anyone would think that self selected bunch constitutes a representative sample is nuts.

Look, it would be very courteous to simply politely point out your failures of reasoning. But you are doing people a serious disservice by giving them really, really bad information. Unfortunately, that is a problem across the internet: contrarians that like to hear themselves talk. We call them trolls. Do your own research, sheeple.

Guys: please get your info on failure rates, revisions, satisfaction, etcetera, from your doctor and ignore the trolls. Sheesh.

Be well,
Leto

Hey Leto, just to add 2 cents here. There are absolutely excellent examples on success stories in this forum, such as yourself and Bionic Dan for example. Guys who got the implant done right from the first attempt. It is valuable to listen to your story.
But it is also good to know the other extreme, guys who never got it right, and just jumped from one complication to the next. To be honest, if i had my first surgery done right i would have been the happiest guy in the world, instead i went from bad surgery right away to revision, being gaslighted by surgeons and so on. So i also have experienced the dark side of this industry.

For anyone who is wanting to have an implant they should know the risk they will take and know both possibilities exist. You might get it right and be the happiest guy, or you may be the unlucky one who got infection, multiple revisions, and so many complications.

I am just trying to say both points of view are valid. Personally i believe someone should get an implant only if all the other methods failed and there's nohing to lose.

[Osprey_1]

I’m 10 weeks into it and still on the fence. My dick is still numb and I can orgasm. If feeling returns and I regain my ability to come, I will be happy. But if this is the outcome, I will be incredibly unhappy. Prior to surgery, I interview three surgeons and asked them the question, will sensation change. They all said, whatever you had before surgery, you will have after. Clearly, at this point, this was a lie.

[Osprey_1]

Correction above. I cannot orgasm.

[LetoMan]

I am just trying to say both points of view are valid. Personally i believe someone should get an implant only if all the other methods failed and there's nohing to lose.

Discovernew, I don’t have a problem with a “point of view.” I have a problem with “making stuff up.” There is zero evidentiary basis for the claim that young guys are more likely to be dissatisfied with implants, or that guys with implants for 20+ years don’t exist, or that published failure rates are made up by a conspiracy of doctors, implant manufacturers and the FDA, or whatever other pseudoscience nonsense gets bandied about here by a few regular posters.

Have a story to tell? Tell your story. Have an opinion? State your opinion as opinion. But don’t make stuff up. And when you do, and you do it regularly and repeatedly, people are gonna call you out for making stuff up.

Be well,
Leto