Am I overthinking things?

[Cnidium]

He's emailed me already:

implant is short

you need an mri and revision

get a referral to me via gp nhs or call number below for private consult

Guess i'm getting a bigger penis! haha

This is wonderful news. I was going to comment that I 100% believe you need a revision. I think you have good times ahead of you. Most definitely keep us updated.

[Stewy78]

Hey jimmi85,
don't give too much weight to the words used by users here. Many use words inappropriately. It is certainly not a horror but you have certainly been undersized. The fact that doctor Fraser (his name must be clear) says that everything is ok it's really inadmissible. I do not advise you to sue him, you'll probably lose times and money. Unfortunately these doctors, even when they do things wrong, always have their asses clean. And here he "only" undersized you, they often do much greater damage and go unpunished. At least in my country this is the case but I think that in the US the situation is not very different. For example in my country is not enough to prove that they do wrong, you also have to prove that they do wrong on purpose. Instead, I recommend that you choose a top surgeon (Eid, Hakky, Clavell) who can remedy the mistake.

[jimmi85]

Latest response from MY surgeon re the sizing:

It is 100% correct. Cylinder tips sit under the glans, not in it
Ultimately the size loss as a result of your Peyronie’s determines size and all I ask is you leave is inflated for an hour once (or maybe twice per day). You will be at your final position at about a year and size changes are, as we discussed, not guaranteed nor are they in any way as important as function. Go out and use and enjoy it

[AST2123]

Latest response from MY surgeon re the sizing:

It is 100% correct. Cylinder tips sit under the glans, not in it
Ultimately the size loss as a result of your Peyronie’s determines size and all I ask is you leave is inflated for an hour once (or maybe twice per day). You will be at your final position at about a year and size changes are, as we discussed, not guaranteed nor are they in any way as important as function. Go out and use and enjoy it

I am not sure what is he trying to prove here? Length gains happen mostly during the first 6 months post-op, and you won't get (inches) more. Better to follow dr. Ralph's directions, and when you get your revision, you can reply to dr. Fraser with photos and measurements.

[jimmi85]

I am seeing Dr Ralph on 5th July. Lets see what he says. I am not overly concerned about gaining an extra cm or 2, but more so improving the natural look of my erection and the knowledge that i can penetrate as easily as i could pre Peyronies when EVERYTHING was rock solid.

IF i got a 21cm for instance, as a revision, I will 100% be going back to Mr Fraser and questioning him further. I have no intention on making his life difficult or suing him but I would like to understand his reasoning for under-sizing me so much, if that turned out to be the case.

Out of curiosity, roughly how much extra length could i expect with an additional 3cm on the implant?

[tomas1]

It seems you will need 3cm just to get the tips where they belong. That may or may not increase your length. That's how I see it.

[frank66665]

Hey jimmi85,
don't give too much weight to the words used by users here. Many use words inappropriately. It is certainly not a horror but you have certainly been undersized. The fact that doctor Fraser (his name must be clear) says that everything is ok it's really inadmissible. I do not advise you to sue him, you'll probably lose times and money. Unfortunately these doctors, even when they do things wrong, always have their asses clean. And here he "only" undersized you, they often do much greater damage and go unpunished. At least in my country this is the case but I think that in the US the situation is not very different. For example in my country is not enough to prove that they do wrong, you also have to prove that they do wrong on purpose. Instead, I recommend that you choose a top surgeon (Eid, Hakky, Clavell) who can remedy the mistake.

hi steve87, if this undersizing is not a horror it is not even a non-working pump a horror, in the end antonini was right that it was not an infection, your comments towards antonini did not seem so balanced to me, not to defend antonini eh , just to be clear, otherwise we tell the whole world that in Italy we are fourth world and those from all over the world (even the most improvised) are better than antoninis, I think you have used words much less appropriate towards antoninis than those who I used towards fraser, and then, remember that in the US there are insurance companies that put their face on it, as opposed to Italy that insurance is only there to take money

[Stewy78]

I am seeing Dr Ralph on 5th July. Lets see what he says. I am not overly concerned about gaining an extra cm or 2, but more so improving the natural look of my erection and the knowledge that i can penetrate as easily as i could pre Peyronies when EVERYTHING was rock solid.

IF i got a 21cm for instance, as a revision, I will 100% be going back to Mr Fraser and questioning him further. I have no intention on making his life difficult or suing him but I would like to understand his reasoning for under-sizing me so much, if that turned out to be the case.

Out of curiosity, roughly how much extra length could i expect with an additional 3cm on the implant?

Your plan sounds good. Placing longer cylinders will give you some length improvements, but the bigger improvement is about glans and penis stability at the beginning, and cycling it you can also add some additional length.

Hey jimmi85,
don't give too much weight to the words used by users here. Many use words inappropriately. It is certainly not a horror but you have certainly been undersized. The fact that doctor Fraser (his name must be clear) says that everything is ok it's really inadmissible. I do not advise you to sue him, you'll probably lose times and money. Unfortunately these doctors, even when they do things wrong, always have their asses clean. And here he "only" undersized you, they often do much greater damage and go unpunished. At least in my country this is the case but I think that in the US the situation is not very different. For example in my country is not enough to prove that they do wrong, you also have to prove that they do wrong on purpose. Instead, I recommend that you choose a top surgeon (Eid, Hakky, Clavell) who can remedy the mistake.

hi steve87, if this undersizing is not a horror it is not even a non-working pump a horror, in the end antonini was right that it was not an infection, your comments towards antonini did not seem so balanced to me, not to defend antonini eh , just to be clear, otherwise we tell the whole world that in Italy we are fourth world and those from all over the world (even the most improvised) are better than antoninis, I think you have used words much less appropriate towards antoninis than those who I used towards fraser, and then, remember that in the US there are insurance companies that put their face on it, as opposed to Italy that insurance is only there to take money

Frank horror is not the right word. He's undersized. Your words are not about Fraser that clearly did a poor job in sizing Jimmi. Your words are about a guy who just had a tough surgery and saying it's an horror is not right in my opinion. Your are not helping him at all. What does my experience with Antonini have to do with this thread? You know my story with him because I wrote everything in detail in an italian forum that your read and you also thanked me for sharing my experience so you know that my words about him are even too kind considered my whole experience with him. Also please just let me know a person that has been undersized that was able to successfully sue his doctor. That's not about insurance.. Also I never told that Italy is a 4th world country. You have probably some difficulties reading and understanding my post. And also when you have surgeries like penile implant you have to sign lots of papers where you accept that you can end with a smaller penis, floppy glans, infections, hernia, proximal corporal perforation, short cylinders caused by fibrosis and many more. So what's the point of suing the doctor?
If you'll ever have the surgery and something will be not right do you think that people saying "it's an horror" will help you? Or do you think that it would be better to receive suggestions how to proceed to fix the problem?

[frank66665]

I am seeing Dr Ralph on 5th July. Lets see what he says. I am not overly concerned about gaining an extra cm or 2, but more so improving the natural look of my erection and the knowledge that i can penetrate as easily as i could pre Peyronies when EVERYTHING was rock solid.

IF i got a 21cm for instance, as a revision, I will 100% be going back to Mr Fraser and questioning him further. I have no intention on making his life difficult or suing him but I would like to understand his reasoning for under-sizing me so much, if that turned out to be the case.

Out of curiosity, roughly how much extra length could i expect with an additional 3cm on the implant?

Your plan sounds good. Placing longer cylinders will give you some length improvements, but the bigger improvement is about glans and penis stability at the beginning, and cycling it you can also add some additional length.

Hey jimmi85,
don't give too much weight to the words used by users here. Many use words inappropriately. It is certainly not a horror but you have certainly been undersized. The fact that doctor Fraser (his name must be clear) says that everything is ok it's really inadmissible. I do not advise you to sue him, you'll probably lose times and money. Unfortunately these doctors, even when they do things wrong, always have their asses clean. And here he "only" undersized you, they often do much greater damage and go unpunished. At least in my country this is the case but I think that in the US the situation is not very different. For example in my country is not enough to prove that they do wrong, you also have to prove that they do wrong on purpose. Instead, I recommend that you choose a top surgeon (Eid, Hakky, Clavell) who can remedy the mistake.

hi steve87, if this undersizing is not a horror it is not even a non-working pump a horror, in the end antonini was right that it was not an infection, your comments towards antonini did not seem so balanced to me, not to defend antonini eh , just to be clear, otherwise we tell the whole world that in Italy we are fourth world and those from all over the world (even the most improvised) are better than antoninis, I think you have used words much less appropriate towards antoninis than those who I used towards fraser, and then, remember that in the US there are insurance companies that put their face on it, as opposed to Italy that insurance is only there to take money

Frank horror is not the right word. He's undersized. Your words are not about Fraser that clearly did a poor job in sizing Jimmi. Your words are about a guy who just had a tough surgery and saying it's an horror is not right in my opinion. Your are not helping him at all. What does my experience with Antonini have to do with this thread? You know my story with him because I wrote everything in detail in an italian forum that your read and you also thanked me for sharing my experience so you know that my words about him are even too kind considered my whole experience with him. Also please just let me know a person that has been undersized that was able to successfully sue his doctor. That's not about insurance.. Also I never told that Italy is a 4th world country. You have probably some difficulties reading and understanding my post. And also when you have surgeries like penile implant you have to sign lots of papers where you accept that you can end with a smaller penis, floppy glans, infections, hernia, proximal corporal perforation, short cylinders caused by fibrosis and many more. So what's the point of suing the doctor?
If you'll ever have the surgery and something will be not right do you think that people saying "it's an horror" will help you? Or do you think that it would be better to receive suggestions how to proceed to fix the problem?

look steve I don't want to make controversy, but under-sizing a patient by one cm is one thing, under-sizing a piece of prosthesis is another, they are missing 3 cm quietly, my suggestion was to send them a letter from the lawyer for scare the doctor and make him intervene promptly, even if you sign everything before the surgery have complaints about a de facto intervention (WRONG) is not a good advertisement, that's all

[jimmi85]

Guys calm down.

Frank, I don't think its a horror show, it is better than it was and is a functioning penis albeit not how it should be.

I am clearly undersized - Mistakes happen, i get that. I am thankful that it is just an undersized issue currently but that's not to say i am happy with the outcome. Of course i am disappointed, disappointed that I am at a minimum 3cm shorter than I should be, disappointed that my surgeon does not believe there is anything wrong with his sizing and disappointed that I have had 0 contact from him in the last 4 months apart from me contacting him.

As previously said, I will not be taking any recourse action with my surgeon, but I will be questioning why he undersized me so much and want him to take accountability for his actions.

is there any girth difference between an 18cm and 21cm?

I am concerned about a second operation and the additional risks, due to my diabetes and knowing that a revision is a more complicated procedure. I am hoping it is only the cylinders that need to be replaced making the recovery easier but i guess i will find out in 3 weeks time.