AMS, Can I get back length?

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby gjmjoe017 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:08 pm

Scott61 wrote:
gjmjoe017 wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Sorry, a frequently posted chart from a study shows that an 18cm LGX grows to 21cm in length. A 18cm Titan grows to 18.5cm. Both are inflated to the same pressure.
The LGX is seldom described correctly.
I should add that it doesn't make you gain length. It gives you the chance to gain length over time.

To me this indicates it’s actually a 21 cm implant!Again that implant is made to a specific length,how the heck does it “grow”?Physically impossible to me!



If you are interested in seeing a video of it enlarging while being inflated, Dr. Brian Christine has done that video. You can find it on his YouTube video site.

Thanks,I’ll check it out!
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby Gt1956 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:28 pm

The chart clearly says its a 18cm LGX & an 18cm Titan. LGX stretches because the material is flexible. This feature is why it isn't recommended for peyronies correction. A few years ago there was concern about a pump creating 20 psi. A member did the calculations & claimed that it was within the reach of human hands.
Btw, why aren't you concerned that they were able to get the Titat to grow a bit? If I remember correctly. Merrix, within the last year, mentioned that his Titan has grown. He uses it inflated to the max frequently.
69yo, HBP @ 40, high triglycerides @ 45. Phimosis @ 57. Type 2 @ 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months.

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby gjmjoe017 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:19 pm

I gained my inch loss back and gained 1/2 inch in girth.I’m a very happy man.
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby 2435tjklAS » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:43 pm

gjmjoe017 wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:
gjmjoe017 wrote:This is where so many are mislead!The AMS doesn’t “Grow”It shrinks down more in flaccid,not actually making you longer when erect!I’m not knocking their product at all,but it doesn’t make you gain length!

Sorry, a frequently posted chart from a study shows that an 18cm LGX grows to 21cm in length. A 18cm Titan grows to 18.5cm. Both are inflated to the same pressure.
The LGX is seldom described correctly.
I should add that it doesn't make you gain length. It gives you the chance to gain length over time.

To me this indicates it’s actually a 21 cm implant!Again that implant is made to a specific length,how the heck does it “grow”?Physically impossible to me!


I think this is how they grow:

Image

Some explanation around 1:50 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z24GRfTGPTA

The way I interpret this is that this implant does, in fact, "grow it." The wording is purposefully vague because Boston Scientific can't exactly advertise saying, "the AMS 700 LGX is an implant that makes your dick bigger!" But the research suggests it can, in fact, make your dick bigger.
40. AMS 700 LGX, 21+3. Nov. 2, '21. Replaced Titan 28cm, Jan. 14, '25

Proved implants increase dick size

Abused alcohol for brain injury, abused viagra for implant

Pre-op size: 8.75" x 5.7"

Current: smaller

Goal: 10" x 6"+

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby gjmjoe017 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:59 pm

2435tjklAS wrote:
gjmjoe017 wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Sorry, a frequently posted chart from a study shows that an 18cm LGX grows to 21cm in length. A 18cm Titan grows to 18.5cm. Both are inflated to the same pressure.
The LGX is seldom described correctly.
I should add that it doesn't make you gain length. It gives you the chance to gain length over time.

To me this indicates it’s actually a 21 cm implant!Again that implant is made to a specific length,how the heck does it “grow”?Physically impossible to me!


I think this is how they grow:

Image

Some explanation around 1:50 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z24GRfTGPTA

The way I interpret this is that this implant does, in fact, "grow it." The wording is purposefully vague because Boston Scientific can't exactly advertise saying, "the AMS 700 LGX is an implant that makes your dick bigger!" But the research suggests it can, in fact, make your dick bigger.

If this were true Coloplast would have no business!Its called marketing hype!Theyvmake a quality product but growing it bigger just isn’t happening.
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby newbie443 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:26 pm

First of all you need to understand size loss. Some can be regained, and some cannot. Then the size loss before surgery and the size loss during and after surgery. Lots of good publications on this in the General Discussion section of this board in the Documents worth reading thread pinned to the top. Second you need to understand the difference in doctors. Some are like car dealers and just have one brand they "sell". I was just talking to a member today that was told by a Coloplast only doctor that the AMS expansion was BS. Same thing you would expect from a Chevy dealership saying about a Ford or vice versa. So this is why it has been said to at least talk to a doctor that does both brands to find out what is best for you. Then you can go to a doctor that only does the brand that is right for you.

So this is the reason we have this discussion and have had it many times before. The AMS LGX expands more in length and girth than the Titan. I have no data on the AMS CX or the actual amount of girth expansion it has but it is advertised the same amount as the LGX but girth only and not length. The "chart" that was referred to was in a study to show better erection angle of the Titan due to the Stiffer cylinders. The Titan is best to straighten curviture because of this. This is that study and Table 1 shows the expansion of the LGX and the Titan and after that information on the superior stiffness of the Titan: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/ Thus the title of the article to promote importance of erection angle.

So to answer the title question, maybe. Depends if the loss was permanent, on the doctor properly sizing you, early activation, ect. The LGX has the ability to expand in size as show in Table 1 greater than the Titan. Just as the Titan is stiffer than the LGX as shown in the rest of that publication. That does not mean the LGX will expand that much in every man. It just means it can if the mans Tunica will stretch enough. Or if the man was undersized during surgery.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

67 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby DougAnd » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:25 am

Jamesbond wrote:Hi
Through the years I lost a lot of length. I have been using a VED or stretcher. Been years I don’t think I have gotten anything back. (I have to get measured up again).
I think most Dr’s use the Titan. Guy I saw only uses the Titan. I might need to find a Dr that uses the AMS. Think probably the Titan is better, most Dr’s probably using it for a reason.
Is it that the AMS implant grows over time, maybe I can get back some of my length back?
Thank you.

JB 007, many Docs do use the Titan. Many use the AMS. Many use both as needed. If you want an AMS contact Boston Scientific and ask for their RN rep to contact you. They will tell you a Doc in your area that they use. Keep in mind that they have no control over the doc. They sent me to a guy who subtracted the LGX expansion from my actual length. Came home partially inflated but 2 inches short. I recovered it all but then quit VED and lost 1/2 inch. Bottom line: If you use VED now and after several months see no improvement in length, then don't expect the LGX to do much. My 18cm LGX expanded to about 22.5cm. Or about 1 3/4 inches. Let me add that there are plenty of guys here who have the LGX and get no more length than those who use another kind of IPP. In fact one study showed that the average lifetime gain in length of the LGX for the average man was just 1/5 of an inch more than any other IPP. So doctors who say the claim of expansion is BS are somewhat justified. The vast majority of LGXers do not properly use postop vacuum therapy effectively.
LGX 18cm+3cmRTE 8 / 8/18 by Docs Saracino , Prody of FL Disfigured by Implant. Married 31 years, Functionally impotent 2+ years. 4" day of surgery now 7" inflated after VED 6.5" without. Pump moved 12/4/18 by Dr Kata

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby LeRoastBeef » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:32 am

I have an AMS LGX700.

It does stretch slowly over time, that's the whole point of it.

General consensus is that you grow up to a year if you regularly cycle.

I have got back all my length and a bit, I didn't even cycle regularly.

I can still feel pressure in the tips if I inflate fully over a 30 minute period.

You'll gain back some length, maybe all, maybe more, it's case specific.
Implanted with AMS 700 lgx, 2021.
30's
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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby gjmjoe017 » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:36 pm

DougAnd wrote:
Jamesbond wrote:Hi
Through the years I lost a lot of length. I have been using a VED or stretcher. Been years I don’t think I have gotten anything back. (I have to get measured up again).
I think most Dr’s use the Titan. Guy I saw only uses the Titan. I might need to find a Dr that uses the AMS. Think probably the Titan is better, most Dr’s probably using it for a reason.
Is it that the AMS implant grows over time, maybe I can get back some of my length back?
Thank you.

JB 007, many Docs do use the Titan. Many use the AMS. Many use both as needed. If you want an AMS contact Boston Scientific and ask for their RN rep to contact you. They will tell you a Doc in your area that they use. Keep in mind that they have no control over the doc. They sent me to a guy who subtracted the LGX expansion from my actual length. Came home partially inflated but 2 inches short. I recovered it all but then quit VED and lost 1/2 inch. Bottom line: If you use VED now and after several months see no improvement in length, then don't expect the LGX to do much. My 18cm LGX expanded to about 22.5cm. Or about 1 3/4 inches. Let me add that there are plenty of guys here who have the LGX and get no more length than those who use another kind of IPP. In fact one study showed that the average lifetime gain in length of the LGX for the average man was just 1/5 of an inch more than any other IPP. So doctors who say the claim of expansion is BS are somewhat justified. The vast majority of LGXers do not properly use postop vacuum therapy effectively.

DougAnd you confirmed my post!1/5 of an inch is not making you grow or bigger.Both products can expand your tissues and stretch things back out somewhat to gain back some of what you loose,in fact as I said,mine did.I just hate to see increasing your size misunderstood on here!I chose mine for a reason and it delivered!
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.

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Re: AMS, Can I get back length?

Postby DougAnd » Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:55 pm

If you don't use the LGX to its potential then yes you're right. 1/5 inch is nothing to brag about
LGX 18cm+3cmRTE 8 / 8/18 by Docs Saracino , Prody of FL Disfigured by Implant. Married 31 years, Functionally impotent 2+ years. 4" day of surgery now 7" inflated after VED 6.5" without. Pump moved 12/4/18 by Dr Kata


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