How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

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How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

Postby Lost Sheep » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:23 pm

Can the man's partner watch (and participate in) growing the erection (somewhat) spontaneously? That is, how long does it take for a penis to respond to an injection and can that period of time feel (at least to the partner) like a naturally occurring erection

I wonder because some partners miss the feeling that (she or he) inspired their lover's erection rather than it being produced by "artificial" means. They miss the ratification provided by "growing" their lover's erection from flaccid to erect.

Pills can let that happen (when they work). Vacuum pumps and implants cannot (though, the partner CAN participate in erecting the erection, it is not the same to many).

Can injections allow a few minutes between injection and the erectile response so the injectee's partner may have (at least the illusion of) participation in the erecting of the erection?

Thanks for any feedback. I am curious but do not know because I never used injections. I went from pills to implant with a short detour through the V.E.D.
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Re: How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

Postby bldoink » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:29 pm

Same reply as to other identical post:

Yeah to some degree. She can play with you while you're getting hard. It can take 10 to 15 min to get fully boned out but it starts pretty quickly. Like lots of stuff it varies by individual and can vary with an individual. However, if it's working optimally, it will be 10 min or less.
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Re: How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

Postby Lost Sheep » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:36 pm

bldoink wrote:Same reply as to other identical post:

Yeah to some degree. She can play with you while you're getting hard. It can take 10 to 15 min to get fully boned out but it starts pretty quickly. Like lots of stuff it varies by individual and can vary with an individual. However, if it's working optimally, it will be 10 min or less.

Thanks bldoink. I was inspired by the thread in "Implants" to ask there. I thought I would get a more targeted audience here, so posted the same question in both places.

Your answer here was more complete than your answer there, so I thank you VERY much. (As an aside: I love for her to play with my "squishy toy" before it becomes a billy club. 5 to 15 minutes seems ideal.)
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Re: How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

Postby Hunchback » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:32 pm

Guess bldoink kinda said it all - In short, yes. If anything, the effect can be too slow rather than too fast. Not sure how a "natural" erection is supposed to work, but afaik for a healthy young male it takes less than a minute to get properly erect. Should take longer with age, but still... Injections take ~4-5 minutes for me, but sometimes it can be slower.

One of the main "annoyances" (other than the obvious things) about ED, for me, is that spontaneous "natural" sex is never really a thing. You always have to prepare something, whatever the method you are using. It's fine if you have a good, serious partner in life, but still it annoys me to never be able to just "go with the flow" of natural desire and feelings...
39 years old, married. ED all my life because of spinal cord injury caused by a tumor in early infant age. Using standard EDEX20 since 2007. Increasingly bad results with EDEX in the last few years, but had very good results for at least 10 years.

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Re: How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

Postby dtwarren1942 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:45 pm

When injections were working effectively, it took, up to ten minutes before I generated a full 100 % erection.
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Re: How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

Postby gsorter » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:22 am

I do get occasional natural erections but not reliable enough. I use quad mix, which works every time. But, the natural erections are so much more pleasurable. I lose a lot of sensitivity on the quad mix vs with nothing. Feelings of numbness and tingling occur on the injection which don't occur naturally. Plus, my girlfriend would love 3x per day sex, and that isn't possible with injections due to the required time lag between injections. She is happy with the ability to stay hard almost an entire hour, but it isn't pleasurable for me that whole time. I am hoping the injections somehow help me regain a more reliable natural erections so I don't need the medication, or at least improve enough that pills are more reliable
54 year old, good shape, treated with HDR Brachy monotherpy at UCLA in 2017 for 4+3 Gleason prostate cancer with PSA of 20. Moderate success with Cialis and Viagra,now trying Quadmix

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Re: How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

Postby handfulWES » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:04 pm

I did the injections for about 2 years. Now remember we are talking back in the early 90's just after they were cleared by the FDA. I thought it was great and it worked well. I had just turned 40 and I had to figure out how much to use to make things work and feel rather natural. I had another friend and he had started using it from the same doctor as mine. He and I had an appointment once on the same day with his just before me. Our doctor was so cool so we both went in together. I discovered why he only needed about 1/2 what I was taking. Let me say SIZE is not important. In fact an overly large pecker may be far more trouble than one of say average size of about 6 to 6 1/2 inches. Once you cross over the the 7 inch mark does prove interesting. He was 6 3/4 and I was at 8 3/4 thus it took more medication. Also, I had problems with erections that would last 7 to 9 hours unless I injected something to bring it down. Anywhere over the 2 hour mark it became painful unless you were nailing it again which in those days, on Testosterone I had a very fast recovery rate and could go 2 rounds back to back. A nother improvement was in my control. I had good control but it became great and I was far better at finding the wave I wanted to ride to my wiz bang blowout.

After about 2 years I choose to have an implant and the same doctor did 2 implants on me. The first one lasted about 8 years and the 2nd lasted about 9 years. I wasn't as happy with my first 2 implants because I lost some in girth and some in length. I had more than enough to do the job but the girth part did brother me a great deal. Two years ago I had a third one as once again the pump broke. This last one was by a different company and I ended it with 9 inches and all the girth I had on my own. I can inflate to different sizes and it works like a charm. It feels natural and I still get partial erections. Guys we all know the heavy feeling where you pecker elongates, it's not hard but heavy well I have that for my mornings and thru the day. I have that often in bed and I have learned to ease down on the pump and allow it to start taking on new life, which makes it seem natural. My partner will often do it for me. When fully inflated it is like solid steel.

Just so you will know: I tried everything to help with erections. Testosterone was a major improvement but like always there were times I didn't make it to the end. I could rest for 3 or 4 minutes and get yet another erection but if I didn't hurry I could loose it. I used the vacuum pump, in fact several different types and I hated having that damn ring on as it totally stops all blood flow and you turn purple and need to remover it and then start over. Also, you don't shoot one worth and thus the feeling is more behind the head than in the head. Often with the pump and ring I could bust one and the head wasn't even sensitive enough to stop me and I missed that part.

There are so many factors involved in not having an erection or worst: ONE THAT WILL NOT LAST. You need a down to earth doctor who will talk FRANK and PLAIN. A mixture of medical terms and street language. You will have to help him set the stage. If he doesn't take your lead, MOVE TO A DIFFERENT DOCTOR. NEVER USE A DOCTOR who you don't feel comfortable with. My first doctor was Bi and my second was gay which made them the PERFECT CHOICE. My last doctor was Bi and hung like horse, I am gay and I have seen some big ones but this guy oh well. (just a little humor)
68, single, have had an implant since I was 42. Goals: to help men with ED; help men over come years of failure; to know their bodies; have a richer fuller sex life whether they or straight, Bi or gay. last I traveled this road starting in the late 60's

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Re: How well does an injection-induced erection emulate a natural erection?

Postby Happy Toy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:30 pm

8.5", how about a picture of that baby! :o I used injections for 12+ years, they gave me great girth, 6.5", but my length never changed, 5.5". Lost an inch of the girth with my implant :( , but only lost a little length, now at 5.25". I did like the erections that the trimix gave me, til they stopped working dependently.
Implanted 6/26/2018, Coloplast Titan 20cm, no RTE'S, infra pubic, Dr. Rhee, Kaiser :o 8-) 79yrs., married 56 yrs. ED for over 20 yrs.


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