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INfarmer
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby INfarmer » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:50 pm

Nope...went from now sex due to total ED to the first time using the new implant I received on 10/4/17 last night and man was I happy...still new to it but man to actually having a hard dick again!
52 married 25 years, ED started when I was in military from nerve damage back & PTSD in 2003 following my last deployment. Implant was done at Hines VAMC by Loyola University. They implanted a AMS 700 CX (18 cm with 5 cm tips) installed on 10/4/2017.

geophd
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby geophd » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:57 pm

INfarmer wrote:Nope...went from now sex due to total ED to the first time using the new implant I received on 10/4/17 last night and man was I happy...still new to it but man to actually having a hard dick again!


Congrats INfarmer! Mind mentioning if you're getting glans engorgement and what angle your erection is at? say 3 o clock for instance?
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Peyronie's: 6 months, indents cause loss of 0.5 inches of girth, fibrosis growing, caused ED.
ED: 10mg Cialis daily, getting headaches, not interested in VED/injections.
Considering implant to avoid a lifetime of cialis and to correct deformity.

TANGERINE
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby TANGERINE » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:12 am

The medical literature documents that 92% are satisfied. 8% are not, and I suppose many of those 8% are here on frank talk telling us all about there troubles. Seems that infection is a source of dissatisfaction (happens 1.4% of the time) and loss of length is a common source of dissatisfaction. The amount of length loss will depend on the talent of your surgeon: IE, better surgeon=less length loss (and many of us actually might have gained a little length, but you should be emotionally ready to lose a half inch). To prepare me, my doc told me I likely will gain a little in girth and lose maybe a quarter inch in length. At nine months, I did indeed gain in girth, and likely stayed the same in length (though that is just my impression---never measured---my penis is long enough to get the job done and keep everyone happy, so length is not an issue for me)

There was a thread on this titled : "who regrets an implant" from april 20, 2017

http://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7699

The collective wisdom was that the people who regretted it, ended up with a crappy install by a surgeon who was not very good.

So, it is just like getting an HVAC system installed in your house. The Furnace and AC unit are well tested and proven, but so much depends on the install. If you have a great install, you will love the HVAC system, if you have a crappy install, you will be unhappy.
"Strive to find the best surgeon--experience really matters"
(63 yo, Titan 22cm implant Feb 2017 by Dr Eid) I'm super pleased with my length/girth/implant performance. See my story at "The road to becoming a bionic male: Answers ..."

INfarmer
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby INfarmer » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:15 am

geophd wrote:
INfarmer wrote:Nope...went from now sex due to total ED to the first time using the new implant I received on 10/4/17 last night and man was I happy...still new to it but man to actually having a hard dick again!


Congrats INfarmer! Mind mentioning if you're getting glans engorgement and what angle your erection is at? say 3 o clock for instance?



My glass right now seem to get a little but not much but still only month one of use and still some discomfort so might be part of the issue and it is at 2 o’clock when I really
Pump it up until it hurts but just 10 pumps which is hard enough to have sex it is at 3 or horizontal to the ground
52 married 25 years, ED started when I was in military from nerve damage back & PTSD in 2003 following my last deployment. Implant was done at Hines VAMC by Loyola University. They implanted a AMS 700 CX (18 cm with 5 cm tips) installed on 10/4/2017.

INfarmer
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby INfarmer » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:18 am

TANGERINE wrote:The medical literature documents that 92% are satisfied. 8% are not, and I suppose many of those 8% are here on frank talk telling us all about there troubles. Seems that infection is a source of dissatisfaction (happens 1.4% of the time) and loss of length is a common source of dissatisfaction. The amount of length loss will depend on the talent of your surgeon: IE, better surgeon=less length loss (and many of us actually might have gained a little length, but you should be emotionally ready to lose a half inch). To prepare me, my doc told me I likely will gain a little in girth and lose maybe a quarter inch in length. At nine months, I did indeed gain in girth, and likely stayed the same in length (though that is just my impression---never measured---my penis is long enough to get the job done and keep everyone happy, so length is not an issue for me)

There was a thread on this titled : "who regrets an implant" from april 20, 2017

http://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7699




The collective wisdom was that the people who regretted it, ended up with a crappy install by a surgeon who was not very good.

So, it is just like getting an HVAC system installed in your house. The Furnace and AC unit are well tested and proven, but so much depends on the install. If you have a great install, you will love the HVAC system, if you have a crappy install, you will be unhappy.


I know a lot are upset by length but truly I am not. I went from a 7.5” to 8” prior to ed and gaining weight. I am now at 6” and trust me the wife is just as happy as they say girth is much more important then length as only the first few inches of a Virginia has feeling. My girth prior to ed was 6.5 and it is at a 6 right now but pumping and massaging daily has helped it and I figure I should gain all that back
52 married 25 years, ED started when I was in military from nerve damage back & PTSD in 2003 following my last deployment. Implant was done at Hines VAMC by Loyola University. They implanted a AMS 700 CX (18 cm with 5 cm tips) installed on 10/4/2017.

TANGERINE
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby TANGERINE » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:54 pm

my short answer to your question regarding satisfaction/dissatisfaction:

"I am thrilled with my implant -- life changing and a Bionic upgrade from what I was before"

That being said, your post reminds us all that that there "are issues with penile implants." The below article lists these issues. I have quoted the article, and have then placed my own personal real life experiences.

Here is an article from the Postgraduate Medical Journal:

Jain S, Bhojwani A, Terry TR The role of penile prosthetic surgery in the modern management of erectile dysfunction Postgraduate Medical Journal 2000;76:22-25


To maximise satisfaction from penile prosthesis insertion, full and accurate pre-operative counselling of the patient and partner is mandatory. This will prevent unrealistic expectations, which are the major reasons for complaints. As insertion of a prosthesis involves replacement of the patients' cavernosal tissue with loss of any residual erectile function, surgery should only be considered when all non-invasive methods of achieving a natural erection have been exhausted.


So, don't get an implant unless injections or pills have failed for you (else you might regret 'going nuclear' too soon)

Both patient and partner should be aware that the erection achieved with a prosthesis is a compromise. The glans penis will not be affected by any type of implant, and will remain flaccid unless there is some residual erectile function from the corpus spongiosum.


Personally, my glans does indeed swell up during orgasm, and that gives me an extra half inch in length and a big swell of the penis head girth at the moment of orgasm. For me and my wife, this seems just fine since it is a signal to her regarding my orgasm; and I think she gets a thrill from the emergence of the glans erection (albeit only lasting 60 seconds at orgasm time).
Of course, The failure of glans erection is NOT due to the implant, For me, it was part of the original erectile dysfunction issue. In other words, if your glans does not work before implant, it still will not work after implant. There have been a number of discussions regarding this topic on franktalk, and you can find them by doing a search for "spongiosum".
The solution, for me, is to use a cock ring, and the ring definitely makes my glans rock hard and big. But, I refuse to do that since it hurts a little and since the ring is not natural looking. The point of the implant is that I can travel light and I am ready for sex anywhere and at anytime. Thus, I don't use the cock ring. Other franktalk bionic brothers have stated that trimix gel or muse placed into the urethra also can help glans erection; but again, I am not going to start things that take away spontaneity. In other words, my erection with the implant is totally good enough. I love the spontaneity and being "ever-ready."


Although erection is not directly related to libido or orgasm, many patients do have difficulty achieving orgasm when first using their prosthesis. They should be counselled that it could take up to a year for this to resolve.


For me, orgasm was fine starting at day 8 after surgery. Now at 9 months, I am totally back to normal in terms of sensation and speed to orgasm. My orgasm might be slightly longer in duration and intensity. It might take slightly longer for me to orgasm, but I have premature ejac, so this is helpful and welcome (though I still would like to come later). Some franktalk members have discussed changes in sensitivity and changes in ability to orgasm, but not me.


Patients with inflatable devices must be warned about auto-inflation.

Yes, I often have a soft semi erection. It seems this is more of a titan issue. Most franktalk bros view this as a GOOD FEATURE and actually commonly opt for a slightly pumped up mode. My doctor told me he wants me in totally deflate mode when not using the implant. He states "pressure induced atrophy of your natural erectile tissue can happen if you leave yourself pumped up alot."

Complications of surgery , in particular infection, mechanical failure and the possibility of prolonged penile pain in the postoperative period must be explained to prospective patients. If complications do occur, revision surgery is possible, but it should be stressed that this is more difficult and has an increased complication rate.


I had zero complications and was good to go for sex at 3 weeks. I was worried about complications such as under-sizing, infection, pain, and early implant failure. HOWEVER, I mitigated against this by carefully selecting a high reputation surgeon. Also, I was mentally ready to go through two operations if needed since I "wanted to restore sex capability really bad" and since I was completely out of other options.

Link to the article is posted below:

http://pmj.bmj.com/content/76/891/22
"Strive to find the best surgeon--experience really matters"
(63 yo, Titan 22cm implant Feb 2017 by Dr Eid) I'm super pleased with my length/girth/implant performance. See my story at "The road to becoming a bionic male: Answers ..."

warrenw
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby warrenw » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:39 pm

TANGERINE wrote:
Patients with inflatable devices must be warned about auto-inflation.

Yes, I often have a soft semi erection. It seems this is more of a titan issue. Most franktalk bros view this as a GOOD FEATURE and actually commonly opt for a slightly pumped up mode. My doctor told me he wants me in totally deflate mode when not using the implant. He states "pressure induced atrophy of your natural erectile tissue can happen if you leave yourself pumped up alot."

Auto-inflation would be really undesirable. Don't know if that's more likely with Titan or AMS but I'll express my concern to the doctor and let that factor into his decisions. Auto-inflation seems less likely to occur if the reservoir is full for a few days after surgery so the healing occurs over a full res.
Implant - Dr Eid 12/2017, Titan Touch 20/21cm no RTE, 125cc reservoir

Anonymous3
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby Anonymous3 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:58 pm

From what I understand TITAN OTR is the only one

TANGERINE
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby TANGERINE » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:46 pm

regarding AUTO-INFLATION:
my feeling is that this is really not a big issue with the Titan touch. As most of us know, auto-inflation happens when the pressure around the reservoir is high (for example, if you are bearing down doing weightlifting) and that causes the reservoir to squeeze some fluid into the cylinders.

To avoid this, both manufacturers have placed special valves which prevent the auto inflation (squeezing of fluid) from happening. For most of us, this seems to work, but for some of us it is not 100%. For me, I might have "chubbiness" of the cylinders, but never bad enough to show through my dress pants. (well, actually, there is a bit of a bulge, but it is something "interesting" to curious females). Certainly, if I wear tighter underwear that is not flimsy material, then I really doubt that the "slightly auto inflated" chubby cylinders would show enough for anyone to think it was unnatural. Most observers would think, "hmmmm, a lucky guy with a meaty dick".

Here is the issue, the titan flacid is not as soft and natural as the AMS flacid. However, the titan hardness and girth is better than the AMS hardness and girth. Frankly, the issue about having a semi-chub all the time is a plus in my mind, and I have grown to like this. Certainly, if the mild chub is the price to pay for the awesome erect hardness and girth, then it is worth it, to me, to have titan.

Finally, my titan took 9 months before finally pointing down enough in the flacid state such that those in a locker room would not wonder if I was semi-erect. Again, this is not a problem for me, and it is a "small price to pay" for having the awesome powers of being bionic in the bedroom.
"Strive to find the best surgeon--experience really matters"
(63 yo, Titan 22cm implant Feb 2017 by Dr Eid) I'm super pleased with my length/girth/implant performance. See my story at "The road to becoming a bionic male: Answers ..."

medhatg
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Re: Was anyone unsatisfied with their implant?

Postby medhatg » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:44 pm

100% satisfied and most importantly the Madame is happy.
It is like a day and night from before. My whistle is ready to go. I'm at 2 months post-op so I'm still learning. After 5 weeks of pumping, I'm getting closer to my original length and girth. I could not be happier, but like everyone say, it is a 6-12 months project, so you need to work a hard and be patient.

Please completely deflate as much as possible when not pumping or using for sex to allow for blood to flow to the glans.


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