LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

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robertm
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LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby robertm » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:21 am

I am pre-implant. I've been reading about everyone's experiences before making a final decision. I've read a LOT of posts about length, loss of length, regaining length and comparison of the two implants, Titan and AMS LGX. I am still very confused about what it means to say that the AMS LGX will expand in length. I also looked at Dr. Kramer's video where he and his staff compare the two implants and at one point the doctor explains that LGX means that it will expand in length and girth, then shortly after that they say it will not get longer (confusing). I fully understand that it can't make you longer than you ever were naturally so I assume it means it can help a patient regain natural length lost due to surgery or atrophy.

But, if the implant is sized perfectly during surgery wouldn't further length expansion make it too long and lead to erosion? I've read stories in FT about guys getting longer over time as they pump and heal. How can the cylinders expand and get longer if they were sized perfectly to end up at just the right spot in the glans? How does a 18cm cylinder become a 20cm cylinder by expanding in length?

Does this also mean that the LGX expands in length but the Titan does not? If that's the case, why aren't Titan guys complaining?

All the discussions about regaining length here in FT have really confused mean. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated because I anticipate have to make a decision between to two implants in the near future and length is a concern for me because I have seen some atrophy due to lack of erections.
60 yrs old. Gradually worsening ED for 10 years. Pills and trimix not working well anymore. Will need an implant in the near future.

radiodec
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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby radiodec » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:24 am

The LGX has an 18% expansion factor. This means that it can become 18% longer if the tissue in which it is implanted stretches to the degree that will allow it. It doesn't immediately produce an 18% expansion, that must be obtained over a rather prolonged period of stretching by pumping to discomfort and holding. If the tissues can stretch they will and length will be gained.

The other factor is flaccid state; what can expand can contract. This will give more of a difference in length between fully erect and flaccid. This is more noticeable if you were of the type where your penis grew significantly in length as you became aroused. The LGX gives a bigger difference between fully inflated and flaccid than does either the CX or the Titan.

I am currently implanted with an AMS CX and it is a little over an inch longer flaccid than the LGX that it replaced. There is a little length expansion with the CX between flaccid and inflated as the little wrinkles in the CX straighten out with inflation. The LGX has that going for it along with actual expansion.

David
70 - married 47 years: RP - 2000, injections till 2012, AMS700LGX with 21cm tubes 2cm extenders 11/7/2012, failed 6/5/2017 --- Re-implanted 8/18/2017 with AMS 700CX -- Implants by Dr. David Morris, Hendersonville,TN

Bandit
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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby Bandit » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:08 pm

The 18cm lgx can actually expand to 22cm given that your tissue will stretch. Now this appears to be what you would have had before any surgery. It will not make you grow longer than what your maker gave you. It appears you may get a little thicker. Just think of the lgx implanted penis as a balloon used to make balloon figures. As you put more saline it could thicken as much as the size of the implant. Lgx has mesh exterior preventing it from expanding past a certain point. Then excess saline would stretch length as far as tissue allows. Just like air in the balloon. Takes time and effort. Regular daily cycling to the point of some discomfort which is the tissue stretching. Full capacity could take between 1-2 years. Just like lifting weights !
Bandit
Born 1958, married. Prostate Cancer. RRP November/2014. PSA undetectable since. Implant May/2017 AMS700LGX 18 cm + 1.5 cm RTEs.

ccrider
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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby ccrider » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:01 pm

robertm wrote:I am pre-implant. I've been reading about everyone's experiences before making a final decision. I've read a LOT of posts about length, loss of length, regaining length and comparison of the two implants, Titan and AMS LGX. I am still very confused about what it means to say that the AMS LGX will expand in length. I also looked at Dr. Kramer's video where he and his staff compare the two implants and at one point the doctor explains that LGX means that it will expand in length and girth, then shortly after that they say it will not get longer (confusing). I fully understand that it can't make you longer than you ever were naturally so I assume it means it can help a patient regain natural length lost due to surgery or atrophy.

But, if the implant is sized perfectly during surgery wouldn't further length expansion make it too long and lead to erosion? I've read stories in FT about guys getting longer over time as they pump and heal. How can the cylinders expand and get longer if they were sized perfectly to end up at just the right spot in the glans? How does a 18cm cylinder become a 20cm cylinder by expanding in length?

Does this also mean that the LGX expands in length but the Titan does not? If that's the case, why aren't Titan guys complaining?

All the discussions about regaining length here in FT have really confused mean. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated because I anticipate have to make a decision between to two implants in the near future and length is a concern for me because I have seen some atrophy due to lack of erections.


I have the AMS 700 LGX. I was 5.5 inches flaccid (measured from the pubic bone) stretched pre-procedure. After 10 months, I'm at 6.5 inches inflated w/ girth over 5 inches (need a soft cloth sewing tape measure to re-check!). Dr. Kramer suggested that I get the LGX...told me that w/ regular cycling, I could conceivably gain close to 20% in length when inflated and he was right on the money.
...69 years old, married over 30 years, serious ED for around 10 years. AMS 700 LGX 21 cm +3 cm RTE implanted by Dr. Andrew Kramer on Dec 7, 2016.

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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby joeyburgers » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:31 pm

Great question...surprised no one answered. I wondered the same thing
From Long Island. Implanted by Andrew Kramer in Baltimore with AMS Lgx 700 on 1/3/18. Peyronies led to ED and some size loss. Tried viagra, cila is to no avail. Did my research here and other sights then made the jump.

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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby Greg1956 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:05 pm

joeyburgers wrote:Great question...surprised no one answered. I wondered the same thing


I don’t understand your comment about no one answering this post. There were three solid answers prior to your response.

I am implanted with the AMS LGX. I chose it for its potential expansion, stated to be 18%. The implant is originally sized to fit the penis as it is the day of implant. When you hear they can’t make your penis longer than it is, they are talking about the resiults that day.

If you have heard of jelqing, it is a manual method used to stretch Penile tissues and over time it may increase penis size. In a similar fashion the LGX can potentially stretch Penile tissues, but doing so internally. Not all penises have the same capacity to stretch so there is no guarantee of achieving the 18% growth. I have heard of guys seeing those results, but some taking as long as two years.

The Titan has the instant benefit of thicker cylinders and therefore instant growth in girth. Although it is not a selling point there are guys here who have also gotten additional length over time from dedicated cycling of the implant.

Greg
I am 64 and had ED from a VL. Implanted by Dr. Ronald Anglade in Atlanta on 9/18/17. I have an AMS700LGX 21 cm via a Penoscrotal incision. Very happy with results. 6" soft and 6 3/4” x 5 5/8” hard.

joeyburgers
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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby joeyburgers » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:44 pm

Apparently thread didn’t display correctly for me
From Long Island. Implanted by Andrew Kramer in Baltimore with AMS Lgx 700 on 1/3/18. Peyronies led to ED and some size loss. Tried viagra, cila is to no avail. Did my research here and other sights then made the jump.

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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby ThePlumber1964 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:56 pm

The Titan has given me instantly, in the flaccid state, the maximum girth that the LGX ever gave me in the erect state.
54 years old, happily married for 30 years to a beautiful & outstanding lady. Onset ED at 49. Finally fixed on 11/08/2017 by the master Dr. Eid with a Titan XL 26, no RTEs! Previously had 3 AMS implants (LGX & CX), all botched.

shooter1000
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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby shooter1000 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:07 pm

Coming up on a year post implant with an LGX, The big picture seems to be in focus. We have all read the details and the minutia. My LGX helped me stretch back to my pre-implant length plus a little. It is interesting to note that now when pumped fully, I cannot pump enough to get any ache or pain. I believe that my penis has been stretched to the limit of the expansion of my LGX. It is a good outcome. I am very happy. If you read enough stories on here about revisions and replacements, you will notice quite a few have replaced an LGX with a Titan with good results. It seems to me that after the LGX has done its job, the Titan is a good choice to increase girth. It really becomes a choice for an experienced implantee to decide what is more important. Girth and firmness with the Titan compared to a smaller more comfortable flacid state with an LGX..

I am very pleased with my LGX, but that doesn't mean that I would replace it with the same. Either way, it is likely that a replacement would be upsized one size as is often the case as the first implant has done its job.

Regardless of what you choose, you will be able to please you partner in ways that even a well endowed natural young man cannot :P
Age 75 Implanted by Dr. Andrew Kramer 03/22/2017. AMS 700 LGX 18 CM with 2 Cm RTE for a total of 20 CM. Previously used injections over 1000 no scarring

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Re: LGX - Length and Girth Expansion?

Postby ocitgo » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:11 am

My LGX is what my personal urologist uses, so that is what I recieved. It is comfortable and feel natural now, 5 months post surgery. It feels comfortable deflated and erect and except at the hardest condition. I don't know it is there deflated. My urologist does a couple a month and has for a few yrs now. My hospital was another thing.
ocitgo (Bob F), Bremerton, WA
Implanted 11/13/2017 AMS 700LGX 15 cm, leak, 3 cm rear tip
Implanted 06/17/2019 AMS 700LGX 18 cm, 1.5 cm rear tip


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