Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

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treetop
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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby treetop » Mon May 01, 2017 2:29 pm

So in reading this, a person that can get a partial erection, or a heavy penis I may call it, who gets an implant, may still experience a difference in their penis like they did before with the implant. Meaning where before they could feel a slight erection at times, say morning, they would still have that sensation?

Only now, that person can take advantage and 'Pump Up' and do service :)

I can get Viagra to work somewhat, but not always. Lately seems to be 70% erection, maybe enough for intercourse. But not really. Maybe if I push the dose but then get the side effects. I am sort of over it.
Injections are not working like they did. I am over that also. Seems like I may be a club member soon.
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DaveET1

Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby DaveET1 » Mon May 01, 2017 2:50 pm

OK, LostSheep. You're forgiven. In fact, now that I got your explanation, I guess I shouldn't have said anything. As far as I'm concerned, we're friends again, OK, Brother?

Lost Sheep
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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon May 01, 2017 3:05 pm

treetop wrote:So in reading this, a person that can get a partial erection, or a heavy penis I may call it, who gets an implant, may still experience a difference in their penis like they did before with the implant. Meaning where before they could feel a slight erection at times, say morning, they would still have that sensation?

Only now, that person can take advantage and 'Pump Up' and do service :)

I can get Viagra to work somewhat, but not always. Lately seems to be 70% erection, maybe enough for intercourse. But not really. Maybe if I push the dose but then get the side effects. I am sort of over it.
Injections are not working like they did. I am over that also. Seems like I may be a club member soon.

Check out these two articles. Sorry, I don't have links. They speak to the potential (however rare or unlikely) of retaining some erectile function in the corpora cavernosum vs the more common retention of function in the spongiosum

“Strategies for Maintaining Penile Size following penile implant”., Translational Andrology and Urology:  Androl Urol 2013 March  by King Chien, Joe Lee and Gerald B. Brock
 
Which cites Moncada I Marinez Salamanca, “Inflatable penile prosthesis implantation without corporeal dilation:  A cavernous tissue sparing technique.  Journal of Urology, 2010.
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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon May 01, 2017 3:49 pm

DaveET1 wrote:OK, LostSheep. You're forgiven. In fact, now that I got your explanation, I guess I shouldn't have said anything. As far as I'm concerned, we're friends again, OK, Brother?

We do not need to shy away from controversy for as long as it is civil. Even heated discussions can be healthy, as heat often provides light.

Friends, good. Respected adversaries, also good. Conversions welcome, as I have been often converted.
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AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

charlesr
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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby charlesr » Tue May 02, 2017 3:02 pm

I look at it like an automatic versus a manual. I used to have an automatic, now I have a manual.

I loved my cars in the days when I had a manual stick shift. Instead of my automatic dictating how many rpm's I could put into the car before it forced a change to a higher gear, I could make my own decisions. Same with an implant. An automatic does the thinking for you, and decides when it will start and stop. My manual let's me have all of the control, but I have to operate it myself.
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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby charlesr » Tue May 02, 2017 3:09 pm

". . .a dildo covered in your man's skin."
Call me crazy, but if you're a woman, isn't that kind of the best of both worlds?
Born 1951. Radical Robotic Prostatectomy on October 6, 2013. Bionic with Titan Touch with Bioflex Zero Degree 18cm w/ (1) rte Implant, Infrapubic, on July 13, 2015.

Bionicrocketman
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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby Bionicrocketman » Tue May 02, 2017 4:08 pm

Well said. I love my automatic and manual also and so does the wife. And having a little overdrive is just icing on the cake.
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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby CTR5000 » Tue May 02, 2017 8:07 pm

I see that others have voiced their being either insulted by or otherwise felt your post/question to be derogatory. I also see that you've acknowledged them and apologized so I'll accept your apology also. Others have seen it as a "no apology necessary" scenario with each entitled to an opinion... whatever. I'll try to answer what I think you're asking.

I honestly don't see an implant as ever being intended as a replacement for a normally functioning penis that's not experience any form of ED. You don't get get a heart, lung, kidney or other healthy functioning organ replaced simply because it's a "better build" than your original equipment. If heart disease, lung disease (as my husband has) or kidney failure UNFORTUNATELY hit, I for one would be most grateful that science and medicine have made transplants and artificial organs possible.

But be it my penis, my heart, my lungs, my kidneys or any other organ or body part, I would wish I never had to "get a new one" or a replacement, or substitute part in order to make it function again... and by "function again" I mean identically to my original equipment OR as my AMS LGX functions.

I'll also say that even with my implant, I still have a "refractory period." I might not "lose my erection" but I still won't be able to cum again for at least a few minutes from the last moment I came. And the tip of my cock is going to be JUST as sensitive as ever immediately after my orgasm.

As far as a "skin-covered dildo"... my implant is so far beyond the class of any dildo, it's not even funny. My cock still feels every movement, every stroke, the nerves at the moments of orgasm and ejaculation. No dildo does all that!

I'm sure that "if we can think it" then "someone is doing it". While I would HOPE no urological surgeon would ever stoop so low as to implant a perfectly healthy, fully functioning man, nothing would surprise me. Greed permeates every field... even science and medicine. IF such a "doctor" exists then he is an utter quack. The first time he's done an implant in such a case he has broken his Hippocratic oath.

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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby Cnidium » Tue May 02, 2017 9:48 pm

CTR500,

Just wondering, after you have ejaculated, despite the increased sensitivity in the glans, can you keep going or does the sensitivity prevent you?
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Re: Erection: Organic or Mechanical?

Postby merrix » Tue May 02, 2017 10:56 pm

I am surprised to see how childishly sensitive many people in this thread are, and how you react so strongly and get so offended by the 'skin-covered dildo' analogy.
It actually is a pretty good description of what we all have.
A dildo is often made of plastics, it is made to penetrate a vagina.
So is your implant. Made of plastics, you use it to penetrate your partner's vagina (or ass in CTR5000's case).
And it is in your dick so it is skin-covered. Pretty damn good analogy.
And if you get offended by that, you got some self esteem issues about your impotency.

And I still think nobody really answered the question. Even the last attempt from CTR5000, despite saying you would answer the question actually asked, didn't go very well.
Of course an implant is not INTENDED for a man with a functioning penis.
That was not the question.
The question was whether we implanted bastards feel the implanted dick performs better (if we would trade it), and who has a partner who prefers the implanted dick to a natural one.

I think it is a damn good question. Too bad none of you seem to be able to look beyond your low self esteem and actually answer it.

I am not the best suited to answer it since I always had some form of ED. With the exception of 1-2 months immediately after my sclerotherapy in 2015. And based on that short period of time, I will say that definitely I prefer a natural dick over the implant.
The so called advantages with an implant over a natural dick which many keep raving about (erection on demand and can stay hard forever), are not so much of advantages in my opinion.
A natural dick doesn't get hard on demand. But it gets hard when needed which is enough. Who needs an erection when you brew coffee, read the news, take a shower? You need one when you are going to have sex in some form and a natural dick will give you that. Anything beyond that is no advantage in my book.
The stay hard forever issue is sort of nice, but not enough to make the implant superior over a natural dick. In my opinion sex is some sort of trade off between quantity (duration) and quality. Good sex is about building up to a climax, have your orgasm, and then it is over. For a while. That is the benchmark, that is how it is supposed to be. Just keep on going after orgasm with a soft glans doesn't add much for me. Sure, it can be nice to keep going to give my partner an orgasm, but if I want her to have an orgasm, I could have made sure she had hers before I got mine. No need for an implant to do that.

So the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. Major disadvantage is just the lack of the feeling of getting hard the natural way. Also this pulsating, throbbing feel in the dick is missing. Then of course, having to pump, missing the feeling of getting the erection while getting turned on or even stimulated, etc.
An implant is a great cure for us impotent bastards, but can not really match the way nature designed us. Or attempted to design us.

Does my partner prefer an implanted dick to a natural one? No. She prefers my implanted dick a million times to my semi-functioning, one-day-on-one-day-off natural dick. But not over a natural dick which works well. For the same reasons as I don't prefer it over a natural dick. The advantages are not that important. For my wife, the getting hard on demand is useless. If she wanted to have sex, got undressed and pulled my dick out - I would have gotten hard the natural way if my dick was working. Now she has to wait for me to pump up. That's a disadvantage, not an advantage.
The go on forever part - again, she is not interested in grinding for hours. She is interested in good, quality sex. What she wants is something a natural dick would have provided. Even though we're both very, very fit for our age (well not only for our age. We're just very fit), the way we want to have sex - intense - we just cannot keep going like that for hours. Too hard work...

But it is what it is. Plastics in our dicks that lets us get hard and stay hard. And the implant is a great fix for a limp dick. As close to the real thing as it gets. It beats the crap out of what I used before - pills. The pills gave me less reliability and higher variation in terms of erection quality. They gave me no spontaneity. And I needed to constantly remember to bring my pills whenever i went somewhere and there was a chance the opportunity of sex would present itself.
So I am super happy with my implant. But would I trade a normal working dick for my implant? Yes.
Do walk around feeling sorry for myself about it? No. I am happy with what I have, it works great.
Last edited by merrix on Wed May 03, 2017 3:27 am, edited 3 times in total.
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