AMS 700 LGX and Length

[Alabama2015]

Have any of you who have the AMS 700 LGZ gotten the 18% increase in length that is represented?

[RugbyDave]

The LGX700 gives you an increase in length from soft to hard. What it wont give you is any increase on your stretched length and what god gave you.

Dave

[wolfpacker]

What about girth? Did you get more girth, less, or the same?

[rlm1818]

What about girth? Did you get more girth, less, or the same?

Except in highly unusual situations, the girth you get with an implant is the result of what your body is capable of. The implant will give you what you are capable of. That varies a lot from one guy to the next, so regardless of what any one guy tells you, what happens for you will be the result of your specific situation, not someone else's.

[billylee]

Agree with above posts....you can only get what your particular body's stretch will allow. IMO, a sign of the top surgeons are those who offer no greater than your stretch test shows. If you are/were a "turtle/grower" as I, flaccid was often very small and to get a flaccid similar to stretch test seemed very rewarding. I am just under 2 weeks post op and I like what I see. I realize I am slightly inflated, but believe my flaccid will be very close to this size in weeks to come. I have visions of what I think a few more pumps will do and I like that vision.

I believe the measurements taken in surgery are the same for whatever device that you and/or surgeon choose, I can not see one device over the other given much edge over the other in length, and girth only slightly. IMO, any push to an extra size than surgical measurement would be very dangerous. I thought I wanted a AMS LGX, but left the final decision up to surgeon who did both devices. He chose Coloplast and, although very early, I am pleased. With exception to girth, Dr. Morey never suggested anything better that what the simple stretch test revealed. In his opinion the Coloplast Titan might offer more girth, and I believe he meant immediate girth versus the AMS, of which might take longer to realize greater girth.

IMO, the final outcome in an individual's satisfaction in length has much to do with whether that person was a "shower or grower", age, and just how good was their average blood erection......also if previous surgery and/or accident had restricted erection for any length of time I would think that would enter into final size. VED may or may not help, but I suggest it does not harm in the preparation for future implant.

my thoughts. billy

[Bionic_by_AMS]

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AMS LGX penile-length measurement between deflation and inflation is 1 to 4 cm (4 cm = 1.5748") ... look closely at the image, it shows the difference between one inflated cylinder and one deflated.

Yes I got the 18% increase ... from 5.5" flaccid to 7.25" max pumped ... although the AMS manuals states that 2 cm increase is average.

AMS700 LGX cylinder girths are 12mm, inflate to 18mm (each) ...

[Alabama2015]

Sorry about this question again I reread your post...did you get any additional ERECT length...ie any additional length from your stretched length?

[rlm1818]

Yes I got the 18% increase ... from 5.5" flaccid to 7.25" max pumped ... although the AMS manuals states that 2 cm increase is average.

I'm still confused about how you know if you're getting 18% expansion of the implant. Those of us with Titan's and CX's see a difference between flaccid and erect too, even though they don't stretch lengthwise. When flaccid, the cylinders are not perfectly straight, and only straighten out when you pump up. The difference between flaccid and erect varies a bit one guy to the next, but for guys I know with 22cm Titans the range seems to be 3/4 to 1 inch. I would think the same would hold true with an LGX, ie that they're not perfectly straight when flaccid, but you might know better than I would.

If the 1 3/4 difference you have from flaccid to erect is 3/4 to 1 inch just straightening, and then only 3/4 or 1 inch expansion, then the expansion you're getting is less than 18%. But, how do you tell the difference?

Again too, I would think you want less than 18% expansion in the ideal case if you want to maximize erect length. If you want maximum difference between flaccid and erect, then that's different. I thought the advantage of the LGX (if it exists at all) as far as erect length is that it will stretch you to the maximum you can get. You don't know you're at the maximum unless your body is the final limiter of how much stretch you get, and that normally would mean you are getting less than the 18% maximum potential.

[Bionic_by_AMS]

rlm1818,
I would think the above image would show you the difference ... sorry I don't have a similar image for a Titan or CX model. However it would show just the girth expansion ... the rest of your statement is a little confusing ...

[chandlerman4649]

Guys,
Several things I would like to respond to. First the infection concern:

I originally had my implant surgery on July 9, 2013. After three weeks of trying to heal and having severe pain and bi-weekly urologist visits, on Monday, August 5, 2013, I went to see my urologist and was immediately sent directly over to Chandler Regional Medical Center, Chandler, AZ for a “direct admittance.” They were actually waiting for me and immediately took me up to my room and connected me to IV antibiotics and monitoring equipment. I actually had 4 physicians taking care of me…my urologist/surgeon, his partner urologist, a hospital generalist who admitted me and an infectious disease specialist. Talking about being poked and prodded…every doctor, his assistant and his nurse had to fondle my penis and scrotum several times every time they came in to see me. By the end of day four in the hospital, everyone but the kitchen cook knew what my penis and balls looked and felt like (and maybe the cook snuck in during the night while I was sleeping to take a peek)!!!

The next morning (August 6) a nurse specialist inserted a PICC line which went from just above my right elbow all the way into my heart so they could inject the strong antibiotic vankomycian directly into my heart to prevent the infection from overtaking my body. At 6 pm they took me back into surgery to remove and replace my implant. The most interesting experience I had at surgery time was they wheeled me through the doors of the operating room, stopped and told me that they needed to remove all the blankets and my gown and carry me naked over to the operating table so any bacteria that might have been on the material would not get transferred to the table. They were worried about exposing my “privates” but I told the nurses that in just a few minutes I would be butt naked anyway so they could scrub my body before surgery so I certainly didn’t need a cloth to cover me while being transferred to the operating table.

During surgery the doctor scrubbed my genitals with a 10 minute batadine scrub and then 15 minute alcohol scrub. After being scrubbed and prepped, they opened the incision and removed the cylinders from my penis, the pump from my scrotum and the reservoir from my abdomen. At that time they took tissue samples and blood samples from the implant unit and from the surrounding tissue where the unit pieces was located. Then the team flushed all those areas out with five different antibacterial washes, the last one being vancomycian. The entire surgical team then left the surgery suite (the anesthesiologist stayed to monitor me during the time they were gone) , removed their gowns, etc, scrubbed themselves and put on new surgical gowns before reentering the surgery suite. After that point, the surgery was just like the first one with everything going in just like before. In both surgeries, the surgeon and AMS representative used a 15 cm cylinder and added two 2 cm tips to each distal end to get a total length of 19 cm on each side of my penis. I stayed in the hospital for a total of four days and just before I was dismissed, my urologist removed the bandages from my inflated penis, pulled out the catheter and then deflated the unit.

I spent the next four weeks with home care providing 100 ml infusion balls hooked up to my PICC line every twelve hours and flushing the line with saline and anticoagulants about every three hours to make sure the tube stayed open. I also injected another antibiotic into the PICC line each morning. After four weeks of treatment they pulled out the PICC line and I returned to a more normal life and back to work. About two weeks later my urologist inflated my implant and gave me permission to inflate/deflate the unit twice a day and keep it inflated about 1 hour each time. Intercourse was allowed about 6 weeks after the second surgery.

Everything is great now and I don’t regret ONE MINUTE the decision I made to have the surgery. Just remember that infection is always possible but it only happens about 2-3% of the surgeries and it is no one’s fault…sometimes the body just has too much bacteria on it and all the scrubbing in the world can’t remove it. Remember if you have a peno-scrotal incision, it is very hard to scrub the scrotal tissue because of all the wrinkles. That is why some surgeons use the infra-pubic approach, just to stay away from the scrotal bacteria. And that is also why some surgeons remove the catheter after they have made sure your bladder is empty so the bacteria from the urethra and bladder doesn’t contaminate the surgical site. So while the risk is always there, just remember that with good medical care (and good insurance) it is possible to get through it alive and all in one piece. The surgeon did inform me that if the infection was too much, they would remove the unit and implant the pliable silicone tubes into my cavernosa in order to help prevent scar tissue from ruining the openings and then in three months they would remove the pliable tubes and implant a new inflatable prosthesis. I thank God for my urologist/surgeon’s ability to clean out the infection, a bacterial infection in the right cavernosum, probably entering my body when they were pulling the cylinder into the dilated cavernosum and “re-implanting” a second inflatable prosthesis all at the same time.

Now concerning LGX size:

At the beginning of each surgery, the surgeon did a stretch test on my penis. The measurement was 4-1/2” according to the surgical report. The night before the first surgery, I induced an erection by using a very strong tri-mix penile injection and my wife measured me at 5”. The difference between the stretch test measurement and the actual erect measurement is that when the glans (penis head) becomes fully engorged, it increases in length as well as girth and that is where the extra ½” was created.
When I awoke in recovery I discovered that the surgeon had inflated the cylinders to 80% as I found out later that night when I talked to my surgeon. The next morning when he came in to unwrap my penis and scrotum and remove the catheter, “we” measured the 80% erection and it was 4-3/4”, about the same as my stretch test. To make a long story short, the last time I saw my urologist/surgeon, I measured 6” long by 5-3/4” girth, a tremendous growth from the original measurements. I worked very hard at continually stretching my penis through inflation…as hard as I could pump the cylinders up then using a warm cloth that was heated in the microwave, keeping my penis under heat for 5 minutes and then pumping up some more, about 2-3 pumps. I kept repeating this procedure for one hour twice a day as other guys on FrankTalk have suggested. The urologist says that I am actually stretching the tunica, the tissue that surrounds the penis and is somewhat flexible (to a point that is) and he thinks that I now have reached my length limit but I continue to grow in girth. My last measurement the other day after my stretching exercise was 6-1/4” length x 6” girth probably all I’ll get and I am very happy to have that size, even though I often fantasize about what it would be like having a 9-10” coke can girth penis. My uro says that without the continuous stretching exercises that I did before surgery as well as what I have described above is what has allowed the LGX to expand about 20% in length BEYOND my normal erection and about 18% in girth BEYOND my normal measurement. So I do give credit to the LGX for helping me stretch my tunica tissue to its max which allows for a much bigger erection. This has been my experience.
Bob