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returntocenter
Re: Four-year update
Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:19 pm

NYCGay wrote:
Discovernew wrote:
I really wonder what Dr Eid meant by "weak tunica", did he elaborate at all on what that means? And what could be the consequence of having a weak tunica, if anything at all?


I don't remember exactly what Dr. Eid said about the weak tunica, but my impression is this: a healthy tunica should not grow larger or looser over time; it should retain its shape and size, enclosing the corpora, so that you get hard when the corpora fill with blood. A weak tunica, on the other hand, will slowly stretch out as the years pass, giving you larger and larger girth, but weaker and weaker erections, since it won't squeeze the corpora as tightly.

I remember that Dr. Eid told me that it's important that I keep my implant deflated when I'm not using it, so as not to stretch out the tunica. And I do keep the implant deflated when I go about my daily life. But on occasion, I enjoy rather long sex sessions, during which I may pump it up and deflate it several times. Also, on occasion, on nude beaches, or in gay bars, I pump it up just partly and keep it like that for a long time. Call me vain, but I love the attention.


Hey man,

Glad to hear you're happy with the implant overall. I was wondering - when you're lying down on your bed, can you see a bulge (the tubing) coming out from the cylinders on the underside of your penis? Or if you lightly press that area at the base of your penis (the scrotum right under the penis), do you feel the tubing right under there? I ask because it seems like some doctors tend to hide this better than others, and I wonder how Eid performed with you.

If you do feel it, do you feel like it limits your length, or how deep you can penetrate? Have any sexual partners noticed it?

Thanks!
Age 27. Tried everything before implant. Implanted 02/04/25 by Dr Clavell. Titan Classic 21 CM, no RTEs.

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Craigohbig
Re: Four-year update
Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:13 am

returntocenter wrote:
NYCGay wrote:
Discovernew wrote:
I really wonder what Dr Eid meant by "weak tunica", did he elaborate at all on what that means? And what could be the consequence of having a weak tunica, if anything at all?


I don't remember exactly what Dr. Eid said about the weak tunica, but my impression is this: a healthy tunica should not grow larger or looser over time; it should retain its shape and size, enclosing the corpora, so that you get hard when the corpora fill with blood. A weak tunica, on the other hand, will slowly stretch out as the years pass, giving you larger and larger girth, but weaker and weaker erections, since it won't squeeze the corpora as tightly.

I remember that Dr. Eid told me that it's important that I keep my implant deflated when I'm not using it, so as not to stretch out the tunica. And I do keep the implant deflated when I go about my daily life. But on occasion, I enjoy rather long sex sessions, during which I may pump it up and deflate it several times. Also, on occasion, on nude beaches, or in gay bars, I pump it up just partly and keep it like that for a long time. Call me vain, but I love the attention.


Hey man,

Glad to hear you're happy with the implant overall. I was wondering - when you're lying down on your bed, can you see a bulge (the tubing) coming out from the cylinders on the underside of your penis? Or if you lightly press that area at the base of your penis (the scrotum right under the penis), do you feel the tubing right under there? I ask because it seems like some doctors tend to hide this better than others, and I wonder how Eid performed with you.

If you do feel it, do you feel like it limits your length, or how deep you can penetrate? Have any sexual partners noticed it?

You see and feel everything

Thanks!
42 ED for 9 years vl after a fall. Pre implant 8 1/4 bp x 6 1/8 ish
Clavell titan 26+1 rte…post op very excited: 8 5/8” x 6 1/4” (7” base)
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NYCGay
Re: Four-year update
Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:13 pm

returntocenter wrote:
Hey man,

Glad to hear you're happy with the implant overall. I was wondering - when you're lying down on your bed, can you see a bulge (the tubing) coming out from the cylinders on the underside of your penis? Or if you lightly press that area at the base of your penis (the scrotum right under the penis), do you feel the tubing right under there? I ask because it seems like some doctors tend to hide this better than others, and I wonder how Eid performed with you.

If you do feel it, do you feel like it limits your length, or how deep you can penetrate? Have any sexual partners noticed it?

Thanks!


I see that craigohbig has answered "You see and feel everything." I don't dispute his experience, but mine is very different. The tubing doesn't bother me at all. When deliberately searching for it with my fingers, I can feel it on the sides of the shaft, at the very base. It doesn't protrude, and I've never even thought about the tubing when I'm penetrating someone. I've also never thought about whether it's visible in some specific position (which should tell you how little of an issue it's been for me). To find out, I lay down on the bed just now, put my flaccid dick pointing upward, and took a picture. I don't see anything, certainly not in the thicket of pubes, but I don't think I would have seen anything even if I shaved. See picture below.

I recently had a Show & Tell with a guy here from FrankTalk. (Feel free to comment on this post, if you want to identify yourself and verify your impressions). We talked about what parts of the implant might lead an unknowing sex partner to wonder what it is you have inside your body: It's mainly the bulb of the pump, which feels distinctly man-made, with the sharp corners around the release valve. If you don't want someone to know about your implant, then you have to keep their fingers (and probably also their lips) away from your ballsack.

Secondly, there is the shaft, which, due to the rigidity of the Titan cylinders, feels like you're just slightly engorged, even when you're fully deflated. For me, that is never a problem; if someone fondles your dick, no matter what the situation, then they won't mind that you have a hint of an erection.

Thirdly, there are cylinder tips on the glans. They are hard and alien-feeling, but only if you really search them out with your fingers. Whereas I have had guys ask me about the bulb of the pump, no one has ever seemed to react the to cylinder tips, whether they were stroking me or blowing me.

Finally, there is the tubing, which, if anything, is even less noticeable than the cylinder tips. The guy I did the Show & Tell with said specifically that he could feel the tubes, but only because he knew where to search for them.

It would be interesting to hear more about craigohbig's experience, but based on mine, the tubing is nothing you have to worry about at all.
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59-year old gay man. Always had ED. Started injections in 1990.
Implanted by Dr. Eid on 2021-05-11: 24 cm Titan.
My story: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16918
Pics: pre-op: pages 6 and 10; post-op: pages 8, 15, 19, 20.
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NYCGay
Re: Yet Another Journal
Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:32 pm

OregonStrong wrote:
Yes I would love to hear more about how things have been going and more pics of what your implant looks like nowadays, both inflated and deflated


I'll post a fuller account and some pics soon.
59-year old gay man. Always had ED. Started injections in 1990.
Implanted by Dr. Eid on 2021-05-11: 24 cm Titan.
My story: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16918
Pics: pre-op: pages 6 and 10; post-op: pages 8, 15, 19, 20.
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Oren8888
Re: Yet Another Journal
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:57 pm

Honestly, you've stressed me out. "Overall, I'm satisfied" doesn't sound so good. And most disturbing is the lack of ejaculation, or a significant difference between erection and sexual arousal. It's scary to think that this could harm orgasm or natural ejaculation.
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Bilko79
Re: Yet Another Journal
Sun Apr 06, 2025 11:31 pm

I am beside myself unsure what to do. I will be 71 years old in 6 weeks, have been divorced for almost 4 years and have been dating women in their mid 50’s. Sex can happen anytime and anywhere. I was always able to get hard very quickly, but would cumm even quicker. I was probably 5”+ at best, used over the counter viagra about 7 years ago, took too much everyday for several months and got autoimmune inflammatory issues with real bad varicose veins all throughout my body. I’ve been on prednisone for 7 years and now have osteoporosis. I have been off the over counter viagra up until 16 months ago when I went to my urologist for a script. It doesn’t work well for me after a meal and alcohol with my lady friend and so my friend told me about injections. I did the online thing and in 3 days received it in the mail. It worked great for the first few months, but ran out of syringes and my friend told me to use 1/4” needles, wrong move and I used it a half a dozen times. The head of my penis got swollen several times along with blood. A few months later a loss of penis size by 2+ inches and “p” disease, my penis is now curved. 3” inches at best. I still wake up every morning with a hardon, curved penis and 3”+ of shit. I had sex with my girlfriend 2x in the past 10 days and the condom came off inside herafter I came quickly. It is a disaster. I went to my urologist and told him everything and he said with your 3 issues I would not hesitate getting the implant. I can’t give you more than 3.5”, but you will have more girth and it will be hard. What a waste, I said when my girlfriend calls me and tells me what she is going to do to me tonight, I get an instant hard on, but what good is it, when I come before penetrating or right after and 3” deflated is no fun for her.
I scheduled the surgery for July 3rd, 2025. Other than my osteoporosis, inflammation and a high calcium score 1368, my cardiologist did a nuclear stress test and it was good. Is the surgery worth the risk? Does it affect urination, causes pain, since I’ve been on prednisone for 7 years my balls and sac have shrunk. I’m just nervous risking my health for something that may make my health worse, maybe have a heart attack or stroke during the surgery. Cause prostate cancer or other side effects from the implant. What if I have no sensitivity during sex, can’t cumm. So many thoughts running through my head. I need help. I have been using the vacuum pump and over the past six weeks, I have gone from 3” to 4.78” pushing it, but the head of my penis accounts for 1 1/2” of the length. So I figure at best the implant will give me 3.75” which to me is not worth the risk and then sometimes I think it is. Help
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LGXDownunder
Re: Yet Another Journal
Mon Apr 07, 2025 1:45 am

Bilko79 wrote:
I am beside myself unsure what to do. I will be 71 years old in 6 weeks, have been divorced for almost 4 years and have been dating women in their mid 50’s. Sex can happen anytime and anywhere. I was always able to get hard very quickly, but would cumm even quicker. I was probably 5”+ at best, used over the counter viagra about 7 years ago, took too much everyday for several months and got autoimmune inflammatory issues with real bad varicose veins all throughout my body. I’ve been on prednisone for 7 years and now have osteoporosis. I have been off the over counter viagra up until 16 months ago when I went to my urologist for a script. It doesn’t work well for me after a meal and alcohol with my lady friend and so my friend told me about injections. I did the online thing and in 3 days received it in the mail. It worked great for the first few months, but ran out of syringes and my friend told me to use 1/4” needles, wrong move and I used it a half a dozen times. The head of my penis got swollen several times along with blood. A few months later a loss of penis size by 2+ inches and “p” disease, my penis is now curved. 3” inches at best. I still wake up every morning with a hardon, curved penis and 3”+ of shit. I had sex with my girlfriend 2x in the past 10 days and the condom came off inside herafter I came quickly. It is a disaster. I went to my urologist and told him everything and he said with your 3 issues I would not hesitate getting the implant. I can’t give you more than 3.5”, but you will have more girth and it will be hard. What a waste, I said when my girlfriend calls me and tells me what she is going to do to me tonight, I get an instant hard on, but what good is it, when I come before penetrating or right after and 3” deflated is no fun for her.
I scheduled the surgery for July 3rd, 2025. Other than my osteoporosis, inflammation and a high calcium score 1368, my cardiologist did a nuclear stress test and it was good. Is the surgery worth the risk? Does it affect urination, causes pain, since I’ve been on prednisone for 7 years my balls and sac have shrunk. I’m just nervous risking my health for something that may make my health worse, maybe have a heart attack or stroke during the surgery. Cause prostate cancer or other side effects from the implant. What if I have no sensitivity during sex, can’t cumm. So many thoughts running through my head. I need help. I have been using the vacuum pump and over the past six weeks, I have gone from 3” to 4.78” pushing it, but the head of my penis accounts for 1 1/2” of the length. So I figure at best the implant will give me 3.75” which to me is not worth the risk and then sometimes I think it is. Help

[LGXDownunder]

I am beside myself unsure what to do. I will be 71 years old in 6 weeks, have been divorced for almost 4 years and have been dating women in their mid 50’s. Sex can happen anytime and anywhere. I was always able to get hard very quickly, but would cumm even quicker. I was probably 5”+ at best, used over the counter viagra about 7 years ago, took too much everyday for several months and got autoimmune inflammatory issues with real bad varicose veins all throughout my body. I’ve been on prednisone for 7 years and now have osteoporosis. I have been off the over counter viagra up until 16 months ago when I went to my urologist for a script. It doesn’t work well for me after a meal and alcohol with my lady friend and so my friend told me about injections. I did the online thing and in 3 days received it in the mail. It worked great for the first few months, but ran out of syringes and my friend told me to use 1/4” needles, wrong move and I used it a half a dozen times. The head of my penis got swollen several times along with blood. A few months later a loss of penis size by 2+ inches and “p” disease, my penis is now curved. 3” inches at best. I still wake up every morning with a hardon, curved penis and 3”+ of shit. I had sex with my girlfriend 2x in the past 10 days and the condom came off inside herafter I came quickly. It is a disaster. I went to my urologist and told him everything and he said with your 3 issues I would not hesitate getting the implant. I can’t give you more than 3.5”, but you will have more girth and it will be hard. What a waste, I said when my girlfriend calls me and tells me what she is going to do to me tonight, I get an instant hard on, but what good is it, when I come before penetrating or right after and 3” deflated is no fun for her.
I scheduled the surgery for July 3rd, 2025. Other than my osteoporosis, inflammation and a high calcium score 1368, my cardiologist did a nuclear stress test and it was good. Is the surgery worth the risk? Does it affect urination, causes pain, since I’ve been on prednisone for 7 years my balls and sac have shrunk. I’m just nervous risking my health for something that may make my health worse, maybe have a heart attack or stroke during the surgery. Cause prostate cancer or other side effects from the implant. What if I have no sensitivity during sex, can’t cumm. So many thoughts running through my head. I need help. I have been using the vacuum pump and over the past six weeks, I have gone from 3” to 4.78” pushing it, but the head of my penis accounts for 1 1/2” of the length. So I figure at best the implant will give me 3.75” which to me is not worth the risk and then sometimes I think it is. Help

Welcome again Bilko. Thank you for re-posting in a separate topic. I have reformatted to make it clearer what you are asking, and repeated my earlier reply from the other topic below. Hopefully others may have some further advice for you.

I'm a similar age and still fairly early on in the process post-implant, but having different problems to reach that point.
First thing is try and relax if you can. I hear your concerns and frustration, but I suspect that you are making the right choice and will do fine.
I don't know what length I will eventually get either, but I know it will probably take a while to get there once I start cycling the implant etc.
Good strategy to use a VED pre surgery. I did the same and I believe that it helped me regain lost length post prostatectomy, and enabled implanting the largest size inflatable cylinders that my anatomy can take. If you were originally around 5 inches, that's pretty close to average size worldwide. It may be possible to get back to that but it will likely take time and discipline. If your doctor is not concerned about you having the surgery due to other health issues then it sounds like you are good candidate for an implant. I can only answer your questions based on my own experience to date.
I have not heard of an implant causing prostate cancer. To my knowledge the only 100% known causes are age, and a family history of the disease.
I still have excellent feeling where it matters. I do have some numbness just above the incision, which I believe is normal and should resolve over time.
Since my prostatectomy I can't ejaculate as they also remove the seminal vesicles. But I can still orgasm normally (dry) and the implant hasn't changed that. I'm not really supposed to do anything for 6 weeks but I have masturbated a couple of times with my wife's vibrator, the orgasms are intense .
There are risks with any surgery but I don't think implants are any riskier, just the usual stuff with anaesthesia, infection (rare) etc. In my own experience it's a relatively short procedure, about 45 minutes. Most guys seem to go through with no complications and inflatable implants have something like a 95% satisfaction rate. It hasn't affected urination except that I have to stay partially inflated for the first 6 weeks, and the pressure on the urethra causes some minor "spraying", for which I've found workarounds. Otherwise flow and comfort is normal. You can get side effects from post op antibiotics, and you will be sore and swollen immediately after. You will feel the new foreign bits of your body that may cause some discomfort initially, but I now carry them like a badge of honor! These things gradually improve and I am now much more comfortable at ~5 weeks post op, but I am expecting varying levels of discomfort to continue for 6 to 12 months. For me it is well worth it to end up with a working dick again.