Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

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jl33ur
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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby jl33ur » Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:03 pm

Discovernew wrote:Thank you Daridima!

I have a lot of questions specifically for you, since you are the only person i see in this forum who got this brand of implant and with this doctor. Also you are similar age to me. So actually your answers could influence my decision.

If you don't mind i will ask them in the public thread for now (but if you prefer to answer something i private i don't mind also).

I will actually enumerate them because they are a lot of questions:

1- I spoke with Karaman's assistant. He told me Dr Karaman does not speak english. This is a little bit worrying for me. Do you not feel it is necessary to communicate with the doctor directly? Do you feel all your questions were answered genuinely?

2- Did you have further consultations with the doctor after the surgery? or you just got in there and went out the day of the surgery and never came back again?

3- If you had to do this process again, would you choose the same doctor? or would you do anything differently in general?

4- How satisfied are you with your sex life after the implant, from 0 to 100%?

5- Regarding the "life warranty", i asked the assistant on whatsapp. His answer did not convince me. He told me only the device is covered, but not the surgery. So then i asked, how much does a new surgery cost? He was not able to give me a direct answer. But imagine, if you spent for example 9000 euros, but the device costs only 1000 euros, and the rest is hospital, doctor, hotels, driver, etc. In reality the warranty does not make a big difference (this is my imagination, because he did not give me a direct answer). I asked what is the real cost of a surgery if there is a warranty case and his answer was "i don't know because we never had such case". But it is obvious because the device is too new and does not have a long track record. But for me this answer is a red flag actually regarding the warranty. I will probably investigate more before making a decision about it.

6- If you are with a new partner now, let's say a casual woman that you just met, would she realize you have an implant?

7- Are your erections very hard, or soft-ish? I see from the other models people usually say titan is harder than AMS.

Thanks for your info! and hope to keep in touch!


I think we are in similar situations my friend and we are of a similar age, I am also very interested in this prosthesis here in Europe so we could feed each other information and thus take the step

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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby dnm123 » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:12 pm

It's great to hear you're doing well, daridima. I wanna add two specific questions. It's almost 6 months post-surgery now.

-How much time does it take to fully inflate? (How many pumps and how many minutes)?
-How much time does it take to fully deflate?

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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby Mr_beard86 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:09 am

I can definitely confirm Dr. Karaman speaks English. I have been messaging him back and forth for the last 2 weeks and even had a phone call with him in English. He also uses English to reply to me via voice notes on Whatsapp.
37, Indian male based in South East Asia | Implanted by Prof Dr. Ihsan Karaman in Istanbul Turkey with the Rigicon Infla 10ax on 14th August 2023

daridima
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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby daridima » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:33 am

Discovernew wrote:Thank you Daridima!

I have a lot of questions specifically for you, since you are the only person i see in this forum who got this brand of implant and with this doctor. Also you are similar age to me. So actually your answers could influence my decision.

If you don't mind i will ask them in the public thread for now (but if you prefer to answer something i private i don't mind also).

I will actually enumerate them because they are a lot of questions:

1- I spoke with Karaman's assistant. He told me Dr Karaman does not speak english. This is a little bit worrying for me. Do you not feel it is necessary to communicate with the doctor directly? Do you feel all your questions were answered genuinely?

2- Did you have further consultations with the doctor after the surgery? or you just got in there and went out the day of the surgery and never came back again?

3- If you had to do this process again, would you choose the same doctor? or would you do anything differently in general?

4- How satisfied are you with your sex life after the implant, from 0 to 100%?

5- Regarding the "life warranty", i asked the assistant on whatsapp. His answer did not convince me. He told me only the device is covered, but not the surgery. So then i asked, how much does a new surgery cost? He was not able to give me a direct answer. But imagine, if you spent for example 9000 euros, but the device costs only 1000 euros, and the rest is hospital, doctor, hotels, driver, etc. In reality the warranty does not make a big difference (this is my imagination, because he did not give me a direct answer). I asked what is the real cost of a surgery if there is a warranty case and his answer was "i don't know because we never had such case". But it is obvious because the device is too new and does not have a long track record. But for me this answer is a red flag actually regarding the warranty. I will probably investigate more before making a decision about it.

6- If you are with a new partner now, let's say a casual woman that you just met, would she realize you have an implant?

7- Are your erections very hard, or soft-ish? I see from the other models people usually say titan is harder than AMS. And they do not recommend boston scientific implant that extends in length if you have a big penis, because it is too "soft" and then the erection will be not hard enough. But i have no idea about the infla 10 AX if it's a very hard erection or not

Thanks for your info! and hope to keep in touch!


HI,
1) I think he replied that he doesn't speak English because there are hundreds of patients who just want to ask for information and then not do any surgery, so it's the job of assistants etc to talk to us, if the doctor did it he would no longer be able to do the job of doctor, but that of secretary. This is because Karaman worked for 6 years in America, he is a friend of Professor Perito (you can find many photos on instagram of the two of them together) and furthermore I spoke to each other in English, I don't know Turkish, it being understood that when you are there there is a interpreter for your language.
2) I went there, I had surgery, I was in the hotel for 8 days, and every two days they took me back to the clinic to check and change the bandage and Karaman does it personally, he doesn't trust assistants, etc. I've never had any problems so I didn't need to contact him, but I went back to Turkey two months ago to have a tummy tuck and as 6 months of visits and consultations are included in the price, also via webcam (this also shows that he speaks English but I understand the choice not to speak to all those who ask for information but only to the patients,) and when I was there I had him give me a check-up, but in the end, if the operation goes well, you won't need it, don't you think?
3) yes I would do it again because I had a good time in the clinic, everyone was kind, the operation went very well, they pampered me for 8 days in the hotel, bringing everything to my room, breakfast, etc.
4) I am very satisfied, also because any existing stress passes, once you inflate the prosthesis, you can get distracted, you can change position or even change room (maybe you start having sex on the sofa in front of the TV and want to go to the bedroom to continue) the penis remains rigid there, you no longer have to worry about losing your erection and making a bad impression
5) ALL the guarantees also of the other brands (the other brands are for 5 years however) obviously do not also include the cost of the intervention. And I understand why you can't be told a precise price, imagine that your pump breaks for example (I spoke to Karaman himself in his office about this topic and I give you the same example he gave me) to replace the pump is done under local anesthesia, epidural it seems to me, and you're out in 40 minutes, I'd say it's obvious that it will cost very little, perhaps a thousand euros (out of the 9,000 for the operation, 4,500 is the cost of the prosthesis, then there's the hotel for 8 days etc, if you operate under local anesthesia and after a day in the hotel you can go home, you will understand that the cost varies a lot). Obviously if the cylinders break or let's say that the whole prosthesis is destroyed, the surgery will cost all the 4500 euros that it cost the first time, net of the cost of the prosthesis, right? but this is true everywhere, and even on this one I decided to go where the prosthesis is guaranteed for life and where the surgery has an honest cost.
6) the prosthesis is not visible, my testicles have always been a little low (especially as I get older) so if the girl were to touch my testicles, she would feel the pump, but I have never liked having them touched, they are very sensitive, therefore just don't let me touch them and nobody notices. If I had higher testicles (shorter scrotum) I think it would be difficult to find it even to the touch, but this applies to all prostheses I guess.
7) erections are stone.

I think I have answered everything.
43 years old, operated on 03 February 2023, Rigicon Infla 10 AX three-component prosthesis (model extendable by approx. 20%). Operated in Istanbul by Prof. DR. Karaman with penescrotal incision.

daridima
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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby daridima » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:35 am

Frenchie wrote:
daridima wrote:
Discovernew wrote:Thank you! Quick question, if Kadioglu was cheaper, why did you decide to go with Dr. Ihsan Karaman? Or did i understand you incorrectly?

I am also trying to look into doctors who do the infrapubic incision, because i read online it heals faster (2 weeks vs 6 weeks in some cases), but still not sure what's the best option. Any insights of why you chose that specific doctor are welcome


it was cheaper but there was a hotel, interpreter and driver to add. And the hospital where he operated wasn't bad, but it wasn't as beautiful and big as the one where Karaman operates. In addition, precisely because it operates in a very large structure, and in fact you patient do not speak with Karaman but with a manager of the structure, also for the future, one day when Karaman retires, you are calm that he will provide that hospital for you, to the guarantee of the prosthesis etc. Furthermore, if you simply look for Prof. dr Isah Karaman on youtube, you will find that there are dozens and dozens of videos in which he is interviewed by news and health programs, furthermore Karaman uses Rigicon which is guaranteed for life, and I am 43 years old, in my opinion it's stupid to take a prosthesis guaranteed for only 5 years and in a few years pay all over again! Regarding the infrapubic Karaman is able to do it, you can find many photos of him with Perito on the net (the Miami doctor who practically invented this technique) but regarding the healing, bah I believe it, you hardly go through everything in two weeks, first because I know people operated on by Antonini in Italy with that technique, and they always healed after a month and a half, depending on why excuse me, but let's think, whether you go through the scrotum or the pubis, you still don't have to remove the corpora cavernosa from the penis and install the pump in the scrotum, and the reservoir in the abdomen? and therefore since these listed parts will heal, what changes for the times from which you passed? I find it just marketing and only an advantage for the times of doctors who, going through the pubis, take less and do more (Expert boasts of doing 700 operations a year, but I want an operation done slowly, not a fast factory ) and going through the pubis, if the doctor touches the nerves by mistake and he will find exactly where it enters, you will never have sensitivity to the penis again, and furthermore I don't know about you, but I don't have a partner at the moment, and therefore I will always hide from have the prosthesis, whereby a scar on the testicles disappears between the wrinkles of the testicles, while one on the pubis always remains in sight. Frankly, I find infra pubic only marketing for the benefit of surgeons.

Daridima, did you lose any size from the implant? And were you a grower or a shower before?


as I have already written, I put a prosthesis that extends 25% more of its size and also widens, so I have not lost anything and after a few months of cycling I have also gained a cm.
43 years old, operated on 03 February 2023, Rigicon Infla 10 AX three-component prosthesis (model extendable by approx. 20%). Operated in Istanbul by Prof. DR. Karaman with penescrotal incision.

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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby daridima » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:38 am

jl33ur wrote:
daridima wrote:
Discovernew wrote:Thank you! Quick question, if Kadioglu was cheaper, why did you decide to go with Dr. Ihsan Karaman? Or did i understand you incorrectly?

I am also trying to look into doctors who do the infrapubic incision, because i read online it heals faster (2 weeks vs 6 weeks in some cases), but still not sure what's the best option. Any insights of why you chose that specific doctor are welcome


it was cheaper but there was a hotel, interpreter and driver to add. And the hospital where he operated wasn't bad, but it wasn't as beautiful and big as the one where Karaman operates. In addition, precisely because it operates in a very large structure, and in fact you patient do not speak with Karaman but with a manager of the structure, also for the future, one day when Karaman retires, you are calm that he will provide that hospital for you, to the guarantee of the prosthesis etc. Furthermore, if you simply look for Prof. dr Isah Karaman on youtube, you will find that there are dozens and dozens of videos in which he is interviewed by news and health programs, furthermore Karaman uses Rigicon which is guaranteed for life, and I am 43 years old, in my opinion it's stupid to take a prosthesis guaranteed for only 5 years and in a few years pay all over again! Regarding the infrapubic Karaman is able to do it, you can find many photos of him with Perito on the net (the Miami doctor who practically invented this technique) but regarding the healing, bah I believe it, you hardly go through everything in two weeks, first because I know people operated on by Antonini in Italy with that technique, and they always healed after a month and a half, depending on why excuse me, but let's think, whether you go through the scrotum or the pubis, you still don't have to remove the corpora cavernosa from the penis and install the pump in the scrotum, and the reservoir in the abdomen? and therefore since these listed parts will heal, what changes for the times from which you passed? I find it just marketing and only an advantage for the times of doctors who, going through the pubis, take less and do more (Expert boasts of doing 700 operations a year, but I want an operation done slowly, not a fast factory ) and going through the pubis, if the doctor touches the nerves by mistake and he will find exactly where it enters, you will never have sensitivity to the penis again, and furthermore I don't know about you, but I don't have a partner at the moment, and therefore I will always hide from have the prosthesis, whereby a scar on the testicles disappears between the wrinkles of the testicles, while one on the pubis always remains in sight. Frankly, I find infra pubic only marketing for the benefit of surgeons.


Hello daridima, I tried to reply by DM but it won't let me, could you give me an email so you can help me? I'm in the same situation as discovernew... if you don't mind I'll ask my questions in this post...
My doubts would be:

- Have you noticed a difference in size before and after surgery? How much?

- How difficult is it to inflate the implant?

- Does it bother you on a daily basis? For example, sitting for a long time, riding a motorcycle, running, going to the gym and lifting weights?

- How would you rate the first 3 times you used the implant? And do you think the other person enjoyed it?

- How much did the implant cost you in Turkey? Would you recommend it? I am currently in Spain and it costs me 16k euros, money that I do not have, so I would think about doing it there.

- If you had surgery in Turkey as you do with checkups, how was the postoperative period with your doctor?

- Could you tell me a website where I contact the clinic or doctor?

- Have you had complications with the implant since it all started?

Thanks for everything my friend, greetings.. oh im from spain, barcelona jeje


Strange a lot of people wrote to me in private, try again it will be a mistake of the moment, also because I don't write my email on a public forum.
you asked the same questions as Discovernew, just read what I answered to him two minutes ago. HI
43 years old, operated on 03 February 2023, Rigicon Infla 10 AX three-component prosthesis (model extendable by approx. 20%). Operated in Istanbul by Prof. DR. Karaman with penescrotal incision.

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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby Discovernew » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:21 pm

Mr_beard86 wrote:I can definitely confirm Dr. Karaman speaks English. I have been messaging him back and forth for the last 2 weeks and even had a phone call with him in English. He also uses English to reply to me via voice notes on Whatsapp.


I think you might be talking with his assistant?. Because i talk with his assistant in english and sometimes he even forwards me messages written in turkish language from the doctor which i use google translate to understand.

Are you sure it was Dr Karaman himself you spoke with?

In that case i will request a direct call with him also.
Considering implant after trying everything else under the sun: Pills-Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox. Etc.

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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby Discovernew » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:30 pm

daridima wrote:
Discovernew wrote:Thank you Daridima!

I have a lot of questions specifically for you, since you are the only person i see in this forum who got this brand of implant and with this doctor. Also you are similar age to me. So actually your answers could influence my decision.

If you don't mind i will ask them in the public thread for now (but if you prefer to answer something i private i don't mind also).

I will actually enumerate them because they are a lot of questions:

1- I spoke with Karaman's assistant. He told me Dr Karaman does not speak english. This is a little bit worrying for me. Do you not feel it is necessary to communicate with the doctor directly? Do you feel all your questions were answered genuinely?

2- Did you have further consultations with the doctor after the surgery? or you just got in there and went out the day of the surgery and never came back again?

3- If you had to do this process again, would you choose the same doctor? or would you do anything differently in general?

4- How satisfied are you with your sex life after the implant, from 0 to 100%?

5- Regarding the "life warranty", i asked the assistant on whatsapp. His answer did not convince me. He told me only the device is covered, but not the surgery. So then i asked, how much does a new surgery cost? He was not able to give me a direct answer. But imagine, if you spent for example 9000 euros, but the device costs only 1000 euros, and the rest is hospital, doctor, hotels, driver, etc. In reality the warranty does not make a big difference (this is my imagination, because he did not give me a direct answer). I asked what is the real cost of a surgery if there is a warranty case and his answer was "i don't know because we never had such case". But it is obvious because the device is too new and does not have a long track record. But for me this answer is a red flag actually regarding the warranty. I will probably investigate more before making a decision about it.

6- If you are with a new partner now, let's say a casual woman that you just met, would she realize you have an implant?

7- Are your erections very hard, or soft-ish? I see from the other models people usually say titan is harder than AMS. And they do not recommend boston scientific implant that extends in length if you have a big penis, because it is too "soft" and then the erection will be not hard enough. But i have no idea about the infla 10 AX if it's a very hard erection or not

Thanks for your info! and hope to keep in touch!


HI,
1) I think he replied that he doesn't speak English because there are hundreds of patients who just want to ask for information and then not do any surgery, so it's the job of assistants etc to talk to us, if the doctor did it he would no longer be able to do the job of doctor, but that of secretary. This is because Karaman worked for 6 years in America, he is a friend of Professor Perito (you can find many photos on instagram of the two of them together) and furthermore I spoke to each other in English, I don't know Turkish, it being understood that when you are there there is a interpreter for your language.
2) I went there, I had surgery, I was in the hotel for 8 days, and every two days they took me back to the clinic to check and change the bandage and Karaman does it personally, he doesn't trust assistants, etc. I've never had any problems so I didn't need to contact him, but I went back to Turkey two months ago to have a tummy tuck and as 6 months of visits and consultations are included in the price, also via webcam (this also shows that he speaks English but I understand the choice not to speak to all those who ask for information but only to the patients,) and when I was there I had him give me a check-up, but in the end, if the operation goes well, you won't need it, don't you think?
3) yes I would do it again because I had a good time in the clinic, everyone was kind, the operation went very well, they pampered me for 8 days in the hotel, bringing everything to my room, breakfast, etc.
4) I am very satisfied, also because any existing stress passes, once you inflate the prosthesis, you can get distracted, you can change position or even change room (maybe you start having sex on the sofa in front of the TV and want to go to the bedroom to continue) the penis remains rigid there, you no longer have to worry about losing your erection and making a bad impression
5) ALL the guarantees also of the other brands (the other brands are for 5 years however) obviously do not also include the cost of the intervention. And I understand why you can't be told a precise price, imagine that your pump breaks for example (I spoke to Karaman himself in his office about this topic and I give you the same example he gave me) to replace the pump is done under local anesthesia, epidural it seems to me, and you're out in 40 minutes, I'd say it's obvious that it will cost very little, perhaps a thousand euros (out of the 9,000 for the operation, 4,500 is the cost of the prosthesis, then there's the hotel for 8 days etc, if you operate under local anesthesia and after a day in the hotel you can go home, you will understand that the cost varies a lot). Obviously if the cylinders break or let's say that the whole prosthesis is destroyed, the surgery will cost all the 4500 euros that it cost the first time, net of the cost of the prosthesis, right? but this is true everywhere, and even on this one I decided to go where the prosthesis is guaranteed for life and where the surgery has an honest cost.
6) the prosthesis is not visible, my testicles have always been a little low (especially as I get older) so if the girl were to touch my testicles, she would feel the pump, but I have never liked having them touched, they are very sensitive, therefore just don't let me touch them and nobody notices. If I had higher testicles (shorter scrotum) I think it would be difficult to find it even to the touch, but this applies to all prostheses I guess.
7) erections are stone.

I think I have answered everything.


Thank you so much Daridima! your comments are very helpful, im sure for a lot of people, that's why i ask it in the forum instead of in private as other may find it useful too.

Regarding noticing the implant, many people in the forum say that if the woman will give you oral sex, she will notice, because of some strange shape of the cilinders or something like that. Do you think also in your case if a woman gives you oral sex she will not notice?
Considering implant after trying everything else under the sun: Pills-Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox. Etc.

Mr_beard86
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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby Mr_beard86 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:37 pm

Discovernew wrote:
Mr_beard86 wrote:I can definitely confirm Dr. Karaman speaks English. I have been messaging him back and forth for the last 2 weeks and even had a phone call with him in English. He also uses English to reply to me via voice notes on Whatsapp.


I think you might be talking with his assistant?. Because i talk with his assistant in english and sometimes he even forwards me messages written in turkish language from the doctor which i use google translate to understand.

Are you sure it was Dr Karaman himself you spoke with?

In that case i will request a direct call with him also.


Yes very sure, in fact there are a few videos on YouTube of him speaking in English like this one: https://youtu.be/xSGQNCJGVsU
37, Indian male based in South East Asia | Implanted by Prof Dr. Ihsan Karaman in Istanbul Turkey with the Rigicon Infla 10ax on 14th August 2023

daridima
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Re: Three months after implanting RIgicon Infla 10 AX in Turkey

Postby daridima » Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:10 pm

Discovernew wrote:
Mr_beard86 wrote:I can definitely confirm Dr. Karaman speaks English. I have been messaging him back and forth for the last 2 weeks and even had a phone call with him in English. He also uses English to reply to me via voice notes on Whatsapp.


I think you might be talking with his assistant?. Because i talk with his assistant in english and sometimes he even forwards me messages written in turkish language from the doctor which i use google translate to understand.

Are you sure it was Dr Karaman himself you spoke with?

In that case i will request a direct call with him also.


La persona con cui ho servire parlato non è il suo assistente, ma Nasimi, il responsabile per i pazienti esteri, è ovviamente tra di loro si parlano in turco. Ad ogni modo lo in ospedale per le cose importanti c'era sempre l'interprete, e in generale parlavo inglese mal che vada
43 years old, operated on 03 February 2023, Rigicon Infla 10 AX three-component prosthesis (model extendable by approx. 20%). Operated in Istanbul by Prof. DR. Karaman with penescrotal incision.


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