Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

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Gt1956
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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby Gt1956 » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:10 pm

Hillywilly wrote:KeithC did you get an unsatisfactory result from the IPP? How old are you? It seems there are a lot of people here who are happy with their implants. Also, top surgeons like clavell now say failure of the pills is enough to move to IPP.

Also, nobody really answered my question... CAN YOU PERFORM SEX BETTER WITH AN IPP vs Natural?
I would imagine the answer to be yes because of control of rigidity and duration independent of ejaculation but maybe there are unknowns I do not know of.

Btw, I think its realtively common for the failure of oral meds to be all that is required for an implant. There might be a few insurance companies that want some alternaive treatments tried. But that is a very low hurdle to get over.
Your second question is puzzling to me. If at better times your natural dick was able to provide your partner with several orgasms then what is the point of performing better? Sounds to me like if you can ring her bell several times per encounter then you're meeting/exceeding her needs.
If your best erection wasn't satisfying her, I really doubt that an implant will change that.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby ThailandBound » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:04 am

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Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby ThailandBound » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:05 am

When i decided to get the implant i’d been using trimix for about 3 years. It worked well and i was happy with it. Over time, even with increasing strength and dosages it was losing effectiveness. I’d get hard and lose the erection much too quickly. Veinous leakage was diagnosed.

I could have waited, i guess, until i absolutely hit the wall and couldn’t get it up at all, as some here seem to suggest. At this point i’d learned about the risk of doing that. Dr. Perito told me “the day of your last erection s officially the day your dick starts shrinking. The implant won’t make your dick smaller, ED will”. He examined me and commented that i had lots of healthy tissue still and was a good candidate. I could have kept on with trimix for awhile, thereby “exhausting” all options, but chose not to do that.

Regarding performance enhancement, i am one month postop and haven’t used it for sex yet. But, i’m very optimistic. First, i attribute still having healthy tissue to the fact that during arousal my glans swells normally and i can feel that familiar blood-rush tingle of sexual arousal throughout my entire penis. Glans and shaft. Given that i expect normal arousal and sensation, only with a consistent and reliable erection, why wouldn’t i consider this a performance enhancement from before the implant?

Regarding “ruining” my dick. I don’t feel that way at all. No more than the recent boob-job of a certain girlfriend has “ruined” her boobs. They look amazing. Feel amazing. She absolutely loves showing them off and having them played with. I think they’re awesome. Was something ruined? Hardly.

I think of my implant the same way. Not the “natural” boner of so many years, but rather than feeling ruined in any sense i think it’s awesome.
Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby Hillywilly » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:00 am

Gt1956 wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:KeithC did you get an unsatisfactory result from the IPP? How old are you? It seems there are a lot of people here who are happy with their implants. Also, top surgeons like clavell now say failure of the pills is enough to move to IPP.

Also, nobody really answered my question... CAN YOU PERFORM SEX BETTER WITH AN IPP vs Natural?
I would imagine the answer to be yes because of control of rigidity and duration independent of ejaculation but maybe there are unknowns I do not know of.

Btw, I think its realtively common for the failure of oral meds to be all that is required for an implant. There might be a few insurance companies that want some alternaive treatments tried. But that is a very low hurdle to get over.
Your second question is puzzling to me. If at better times your natural dick was able to provide your partner with several orgasms then what is the point of performing better? Sounds to me like if you can ring her bell several times per encounter then you're meeting/exceeding her needs.
If your best erection wasn't satisfying her, I really doubt that an implant will change that.


What I am really getting at is a natural dick has a limit on the number of times you can have sex. A natural dick cannot get hard every single time the man wants it to. Firmness can fluctuate in a natural dick. You cannot be hard for over 4 hours. I am more wondering if the implant eliminates all of this without a loss of length and girth if it does I don't see why people would prefer natural over the IPP.
33 HG deformity now Titan OTR 24cm XL + 1 cm RTE's Length 7.25in/ Girth 6in (midshaft) Dr. Hakky 4/4/23

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby wolfpacker » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:10 am

Hillywilly wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:KeithC did you get an unsatisfactory result from the IPP? How old are you? It seems there are a lot of people here who are happy with their implants. Also, top surgeons like clavell now say failure of the pills is enough to move to IPP.

Also, nobody really answered my question... CAN YOU PERFORM SEX BETTER WITH AN IPP vs Natural?
I would imagine the answer to be yes because of control of rigidity and duration independent of ejaculation but maybe there are unknowns I do not know of.

Btw, I think its realtively common for the failure of oral meds to be all that is required for an implant. There might be a few insurance companies that want some alternaive treatments tried. But that is a very low hurdle to get over.
Your second question is puzzling to me. If at better times your natural dick was able to provide your partner with several orgasms then what is the point of performing better? Sounds to me like if you can ring her bell several times per encounter then you're meeting/exceeding her needs.
If your best erection wasn't satisfying her, I really doubt that an implant will change that.


What I am really getting at is a natural dick has a limit on the number of times you can have sex. A natural dick cannot get hard every single time the man wants it to. Firmness can fluctuate in a natural dick. You cannot be hard for over 4 hours. I am more wondering if the implant eliminates all of this without a loss of length and girth if it does I don't see why people would prefer natural over the IPP.



The implant is a great cure for ED but it is plastic cylinders inside your dick. I'm very thankful to have mine and have my ED cured, but it is not the same as a throbbing natural blood filled erection.
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby Hillywilly » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:17 am

wolfpacker wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:
Gt1956 wrote: but it is not the same as a throbbing natural blood filled erection.


Can you elaborate on this? Do you mean your penis feels slightly smaller because of the lack of blood flow? what is it you miss about the throbbing natural blood filled boners?
33 HG deformity now Titan OTR 24cm XL + 1 cm RTE's Length 7.25in/ Girth 6in (midshaft) Dr. Hakky 4/4/23

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby wolfpacker » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:22 am

Hillywilly wrote:
wolfpacker wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:


Can you elaborate on this? Do you mean your penis feels slightly smaller because of the lack of blood flow? what is it you miss about the throbbing natural blood filled boners?


It doesn't feel as full, tight, hot as a blood filled dick. Like I said it's a great cure for the problem of ED but not the same as natural.
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby sswinsfba » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:43 am

Hillywilly wrote:What I am really getting at is a natural dick has a limit on the number of times you can have sex. A natural dick cannot get hard every single time the man wants it to. Firmness can fluctuate in a natural dick. You cannot be hard for over 4 hours. I am more wondering if the implant eliminates all of this without a loss of length and girth if it does I don't see why people would prefer natural over the IPP.


There's an old adage: "If ain't broke, don't fix it."

The point is that trying to fix something that isn't broken could cause other problems and, if you've read the threads of men who have had problems with their implants, you'll quickly realize that such problems can be quite severe.

There is never any "guarantee" in surgery. A lot of sh*t can go wrong. So, it really makes no sense to subject yourself to such risks, unless you really need the implant, especially if your junk is still working well.

Also, FWIW, as we get older, most of us just aren't as "horny" and no longer feel the need to f*ck all night long and anything sight, as we did when we were younger.

If that's the case, as it is for me, what good is a erection that will last all night (or all day) long, if you just don't feel like using it? Not much IMO.
Age 73. Started taking 5 mg Cialis daily in 2000. Minor ED started in 2021. Major ED problem started in 2022. Coloplast Titan (20 cm w/1cm RTE) implanted infrapublicly on 01/24/2023 by Dr. Edward Karpman (El Camino Urology Medical Group, Mt. View, CA).

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby frank66665 » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:03 pm

Hillywilly wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:
Hillywilly wrote:KeithC did you get an unsatisfactory result from the IPP? How old are you? It seems there are a lot of people here who are happy with their implants. Also, top surgeons like clavell now say failure of the pills is enough to move to IPP.

Also, nobody really answered my question... CAN YOU PERFORM SEX BETTER WITH AN IPP vs Natural?
I would imagine the answer to be yes because of control of rigidity and duration independent of ejaculation but maybe there are unknowns I do not know of.

Btw, I think its realtively common for the failure of oral meds to be all that is required for an implant. There might be a few insurance companies that want some alternaive treatments tried. But that is a very low hurdle to get over.
Your second question is puzzling to me. If at better times your natural dick was able to provide your partner with several orgasms then what is the point of performing better? Sounds to me like if you can ring her bell several times per encounter then you're meeting/exceeding her needs.
If your best erection wasn't satisfying her, I really doubt that an implant will change that.


What I am really getting at is a natural dick has a limit on the number of times you can have sex. A natural dick cannot get hard every single time the man wants it to. Firmness can fluctuate in a natural dick. You cannot be hard for over 4 hours. I am more wondering if the implant eliminates all of this without a loss of length and girth if it does I don't see why people would prefer natural over the IPP.

age and your past and how your dick works at the moment matters a lot in this choice, update your signature so we can better understand who we're talking to
56, ED since 2010, pills work but not always and well, trt in progress improved but not so much, myocardial infarction january 2016, new stent september 2016, hypertension, venous on 1/23/23 titan one touch 22, no rte dottor Gabriele Antonini Italia

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Re: Implants for Performance enhancement: hypothetical

Postby Flounder » Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:07 pm

Hillywilly wrote:……. nobody really answered my question...
CAN YOU PERFORM SEX BETTER WITH AN IPP vs Natural?

I would imagine the answer to be yes because of control of rigidity and duration independent of ejaculation but maybe there are unknowns I do not know of.


I think the answer is depending on your definition of better sex.
The implant is better hands down if your objective is to pound her (him) like they never had it before and keep going until they scream, stop. You forgot the third key benefit of an implant being erection on demand without the pre-planning required by pills & injections.

I would say sex with my natural erections (before PC) was absolutely better thinking of sex wholly including arousal, foreplay, through orgasm. True I lost erection after ejaculating but usually could be stimulated to come back for 2nds or 3rds if desired. Also my wife got pleasure (and horny) taking credit for her part in getting me hard via the natural blood engorgement process. That’s something she misses but never complains.

Don’t get me wrong, an implant can be a great treatment for a broken dick. But I wouldn’t consider destroying a reasonably functioning natural erection to get one.
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