Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

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FMLFML85
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Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby FMLFML85 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:15 am

There’s certain points of failures that often happen. It seems very rare that there’s some kind of blow out in the side wall of the cylinders. My guess is the basic shape of the cylinders is because the manufacturer wanted to keep it simple to prevent a point of failure in the implant. If you sliced an erect penis in half, the left and right chamber together would resemble something of a mushroom you may see on top a Pizza Hut pizza. I love my implant but I don’t see a reason yo it not being a better shape other then laziness of the manufacturer to test different shapes.

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Re: Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby indeed » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:26 am

I can't comment on the shape as i'm not yet implantet but i totally agree with you on the laziness of the manufacturers.
Of course failiures can happen with any device but with a device as simple as an implant it should definetly be possible to make much much better (durable) ones.
Hakky told me in 5 years a new, improved coloplast implant will be out, so lets hope for the best.

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Re: Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby KeithC » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:09 am

Actually the corpora cavernosa looks pretty round to me. When the implant is inflated and everything is pressed together it’s close to natural shape.

What shape would you make it and how would you keep it from turning?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK5 ... ay1155.jpg

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Re: Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby FMLFML85 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:20 am

KeithC wrote:Actually the corpora cavernosa looks pretty round to me. When the implant is inflated and everything is pressed together it’s close to natural shape.

What shape would you make it and how would you keep it from turning?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK5 ... ay1155.jpg

You’re right the turning of the cylinder may be a problem. Idd make it half of a slice of mushroom.

Wouldn’t it be great if the implant was a bit less oval and more natural looking?
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Re: Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby Flounder » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:28 am

I think an irregular shaped cylinder, expected to expand and contract proportionally, would be quit difficult to produce. It would likely require reinforced sections to control the shape but that would add greater stiffness in the deflated state. Also that flat sided stem section likely would cause problems pinching the urethra.
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Re: Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby newbie443 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:55 am

What you are talking about is a way to inflate the corpus spongiosum. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Sch ... _289991483 But that is a separate body like the right and left corpus cavernosum. The reason you have a right and left cylinder implanted is because they are separate chambers. You have 3 erectile bodies in your penis and the implant only takes the place of 2 of them. The problem with the third erectile body is that the urethra runs through the middle of it. The only way to do what you are suggesting is to remove the structures dividing the erectile bodies. You would have to cut open your penis from glans to crus and cut away those dividers. Then you have a problem of what to do with the urethra.

Talk about a long very invasive surgery. If it was even possible to move the urethra. I would rather not have my penis tissue cut from glans to deep inside my body and my urethra moved to have an inflatable third erectile body. Men have had some good results with oral ED meds or urethra muse or suppositories to achieve natural engorgement of the third erectile body.

This does not have anything to do with manufactures not wanting to spend money to design a different shape cylinders.
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Re: Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby Cnidium » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:08 am

Its a demand problem.

This implants likely represent an extremely small percentage of the net sales of either BS or Coloplast.

I suspect that when/if demand increases, and competition increases for the customer base, you will changes in the product.
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Re: Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby AmansinCali » Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:19 pm

I believe the shape of the cylinders are the way they are more for the installation, than to reproduce the natural shape of the glans.

The cylinders for installation have a thread attached to the tip of the cylinders then a needle is pushed through the penis until it comes out the end of the glans, the threads are then pulled guiding the cylinders through the penis until the tips are positioned into the glans. There are several YouTube videos that show this procedure, if you watch those you will see the current shape is about the only shape that could be installed this way.

Watching those videos this procedure made me wince the first time I saw those needles coming out of the end of the glans. :o Yikes!
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Re: Why can’t the manufacturers make a better shape

Postby ThailandBound » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:35 am

AmansinCali wrote:
Watching those videos this procedure made me wince the first time I saw those needles coming out of the end of the glans. :o Yikes!


I cringed through the whole surgery video. Our willingness to do this procedure really shows the depth of our desire to overcome our ED and get on with good sex again. For anybody considering the surgery, my glans did not hurt at all because of the needle aspect. Just two little black scabs that disappeared in short order. No problem.
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