Why so many Titan failures here?

[Frenchie]

One thing i have noticed while scrolling here is that the number of Titan failures is way higher than AMS. It seems to me that Titan is an inferior product to AMS but I could be wrong. No idea why they are both considered the same quality.
Your opinion on this?

[KeithC]

AMS does have a lower dissatisfaction rate.

[North329]

I found this post to be interesting. I just got a Titan installed three weeks ago. I was primarily interested in Titan because of its girth/firmness. Titan also appealed to me because several high-volume doctors preferred it over AMS.

[gjmjoe017]

If you do some research that are based on the facts your statement is not true.I’m going into my third year with a Titan with no problems at all.Failures can be based on different things,bad surgeon,patient doing things he shouldn’t be doing.The Titan is every bit as good a product as the AMS!

[KeithC]

I found this post to be interesting. I just got a Titan installed three weeks ago. I was primarily interested in Titan because of its girth/firmness. Titan also appealed to me because several high-volume doctors preferred it over AMS.

Not saying one is better than the other in any way. My Dr installed a AMS 700CX 24cm in me 11 weeks ago. Its so new I cant really comment on its performance.

BUT keep in mind doctors are running businesses and might have financial incentives to push one brand over another. Especially the high volume doctors you hear their names mentioned here so often. Could also be that one is easier to install than the other. I pretty much just took my doctors word for it.

[Old Guy]

Remember this forum is the place where guys can bitch about failures. There are thousands of guys out there who are implanted and never say anything about it, good bad or ugly. They're just happy using it.
Third year with my Titan and other than a tough couple of months healing it has been great. I'm guessing it has been put to use close to 200 times now. No way I wanted to miss all that sex.

[Lost Sheep]

AMS does have a lower dissatisfaction rate.

Do you have a source for that statistic? How much lower?

Asked for clarification only, not as a challenge.

[principles]

Putting my contrarian hat.

I will say that every single person that can afford/has access to an implant also has access to a search engine and eventually will google something along the lines of "penile implant experiences", "penile implant review", "penile implant forum", "penile implant reddit", etc.

It's a bit naive to think that an informed patient in 2023 (and most man that agree to having their balls cut open usually do get informed quite extensively...) wouldn't find franktalk before they're operated, I bet most do.

Thus, I'd argue that a significant, perhaps even the majority of implant patients actually have access to franktalk.org before their first procedure. You'll likely hear about most failures through the forum, but the opposite is inversely true, you are likely not going to hear about the working device's hosts either.

Unfortunaly we do not have access to coloplast's or ams's actual failure rates. The best proxy for an actual statistical sample size regarding failures would be the stats of failures coming out of any high volume surgeon. Perhaps Dr. Eid or Dr. Perito could provide their own empirical statistical evidence of observed failures, but if that number were to be too high, it's likely it wouldn't be in their best interest to disclose the failures rates they observe in their actual practices. Even if they did disclose, we wouldn't be able to trully verify their numbers. So it's a guessing game.

Unless your device breaks within less than 5 years from your surgery, you're likely not going to bother thinking about the veracity of published statistical failure rates. As for myself, I'm 30 years old and my device broke within 2 years 2 months of the initial procedure. If this were to be repeated every other year, odds are my ball sack won't make it another 30 years getting cut so oftenly. Yes, going forward, for a very good and healthy reason, I'm as skeptical as I can possibly be.

[Lost Sheep]

In 2017 Dr Eid wrote to me that the failure rates were comparable between the two (AMS/Boston Scientific and Coloplast) manufacturers were comparable. Modes of failure were different, AMS having more failures at the inflatable tubes and Coloplast more at the connectors of the tubing that move fluid between the reservoir, pump and inflatable tubes.

The difference in reported failures the OP cites may be due to a shift in reliability of the devices or just variations in reportings found here.

[Mr.Wiff]

I asked my doc today about failure rates. He said it’s 1 percent and 2 percent in diabetics. He said he’s not considered high volume but installs 2 implants almost each Thursday his surgery day. And reassured me the chat groups etc are an extremely small sampling of implants done.