Why so many Titan failures here?

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Jage64
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby Jage64 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:56 pm

Mr.Wiff wrote:I asked my doc today about failure rates. He said it’s 1 percent and 2 percent in diabetics.


Was that failure rate or infection rate? The physical implant doesn't know and doesn't care if the host is diabetic. On the other hand, infections are more common with diabetics, as wound healing is affected.

I think you're confusing the two different rates... failure/infection.
2/22/23 AMS 700 CX 21cm + 1.5cm RTEs. 58 yrs old, wife of 37 yrs. Penoscrotal. 100ml Conceal reservoir. Dr. Clavell. Pills failing and went right to implant, skipped the injections. 12 mos. later: 7 1/2" x 5 3/4"

Mlsyes
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby Mlsyes » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:07 pm

Here's a link to a comparative study results between the AMS 700 CX vs Titan during a 5 year period. The relevant findings for this Peyronie's disease study was "there was no statistical significance in device survival for either brand." However, "the trend favored AMS (91% vs 87%, P > 0.05)." This study was a retrospective 2013 study (patients implanted between 2006 & 2011). In my uneducated opinion and with the numbers involved, the study shows that for all intents and purposes the device failure rates were statistically the same. I hope this helps

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23210973/
ED since 2007, pills did not work 100% since 2016. Venous leakage confirmed with Doppler, implant 12/08/22 in NC, Titan 22", 65 years old (born 1957).

Tokyo_123
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby Tokyo_123 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:10 pm

I believe that more people on this forum have Titan than the AMS. This can explain differences in perceived failure rate.
Venous Leakage (which I believe caused by my overuse of the Bathmate VED)

Dr. Clavell, August, 2022. Titan One-Touch, 24cm XL cylinders and trimmed off 0.5cm

Craigohbig
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby Craigohbig » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:45 pm

North329 wrote:I found this post to be interesting. I just got a Titan installed three weeks ago. I was primarily interested in Titan because of its girth/firmness. Titan also appealed to me because several high-volume doctors preferred it over AMS.

Maybe they know they’ll get more revisions(that they somehow still make money from)
42 ED for 9 years vl after a fall. Pre implant 8 1/4 bp x 6 1/8 ish
Clavell titan 26+1 rte…post op very excited: 8 5/8” x 6 1/4” (7” base)
Starting to lose some length

Craigohbig
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby Craigohbig » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:49 pm

I think the more telling stat would be the failure rate amongst doctors. I rarely hear about Eid fails
42 ED for 9 years vl after a fall. Pre implant 8 1/4 bp x 6 1/8 ish
Clavell titan 26+1 rte…post op very excited: 8 5/8” x 6 1/4” (7” base)
Starting to lose some length

woodturner
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby woodturner » Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:01 pm

My Titan gave out after 8 years. It was problem with the tubing from on of the cylinders to the pump. Three weeks ago a new Titan was installed in me.
My observations are:
* The pump and the release valve have changed. My understanding is the new one is more reliable.
* The release valve button is a lot different. Once I figured out what was going on it is actually very easy to operate.
* It appears they may have reinforced the tubing between the reservoir and the pump
* Recovery from the revision has extremely easy compared to getting the first one.
I did not loose any size
Before I had 22CM with 2CM RTE each side. This time it is 24CM with 1CM RTE each side.
I was very happy with the first TITAN I didn't see any reason to change. 8 years ago I realized they are a mechanical item with a limited lifetime.
Total ED since a 6/2010 RPA. Pills and injections didn't work. 2nd revision with a Coloplast Titan (24CM w & 2CM RTEs)on 12/15/2022. 68 years old

ThailandBound
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby ThailandBound » Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:58 pm

I have had my Titan installed for exactly 13 hours as i write this. (seriously)

Still works!
Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.

KeithC
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby KeithC » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:09 pm

North329 wrote:I found this post to be interesting. I just got a Titan installed three weeks ago. I was primarily interested in Titan because of its girth/firmness. Titan also appealed to me because several high-volume doctors preferred it over AMS.


Those “high volume” doctors could be getting all sorts of $$$ perks for using that brand of implant.

ThailandBound
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby ThailandBound » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:51 pm

KeithC wrote:
North329 wrote:I found this post to be interesting. I just got a Titan installed three weeks ago. I was primarily interested in Titan because of its girth/firmness. Titan also appealed to me because several high-volume doctors preferred it over AMS.


Those “high volume” doctors could be getting all sorts of $$$ perks for using that brand of implant.


I received my Titan from Dr. Clavelle (definitely high volume. when i was in the surgical holding area, i noted the days schedule on a big monitor. Clavelle’s name appeared every 2 hours for IPPs, every 2 hours. 5 total) just today. Don’t know about kickbacks and other doctors, but Clavelle explains the pros/cons of each and let’s the patient decide. He’ll install either, up to you.
Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.

Jage64
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Re: Why so many Titan failures here?

Postby Jage64 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:24 pm

Also, they do not cost the doctors the same amount. One is more expensive than the other. So if a doctor has a set price for implantation, or wants to be competitive, he may recommend the lower priced implant to increase his profit.

I'm not saying that this is always the case, but this COULD be a consideration for some doctors. That being said, a doctor could be honest and tell a patient that there will be an increased cost for one implant, and people opt for the less expensive model.

I too believe that failure rates are about the same between the two major options. I also think that there are more Titans represented on this board than AMS, so the statistics will skew and should not represent more failures of the Titan over others.
2/22/23 AMS 700 CX 21cm + 1.5cm RTEs. 58 yrs old, wife of 37 yrs. Penoscrotal. 100ml Conceal reservoir. Dr. Clavell. Pills failing and went right to implant, skipped the injections. 12 mos. later: 7 1/2" x 5 3/4"


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