My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

The final frontier. Deciding when, if and how.
ThailandBound
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My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby ThailandBound » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:15 am

Brothers. i started this thread a few days before my surgery, discussing the mental aspects, apprehension, second-guessing, fears. If you’d like to jump ahead to actual day of surgery (which, as i write, was yesterday), here’s the link from this thread to where surgery day picks up:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20981&start=10

Below commences the pre-game jitters part: :shock:

So, tomorrow is the big day!

I’ve carved five days out of my schedule for this. I flew from Florida to Houston yesterday for my surgery on January 4 with Dr. Clavelle. Per his recommendation, day one, yesterday, was a simple travel day. Arrived in Houston and checked in at the Westin hotel, about a mile from the surgery center.

Today, day two of my trip, I awakened at 4 AM. Sitting here in my hotel room at the moment, and it is still dark outside. Of course, this is pretty much all I can think about. Today I will pre-register at the surgery center, and take my medication as per the doctors instructions. Surgery is tomorrow at 7:30 AM.

I am grateful for this forum and the many contributors who have preceded me. I have read so much and learned so much. Of course, there are some scary stories in there, and I guess we all just hope that we have done our best to mitigate the risks and that we will be one of the fortunate ones with a good recovery and a good result.

There seems to be such weight to this decision. The mental aspects as the date has approached have really surprised me. I guess it’s just Class-A anxiety. Like most things that make us anxious, the mind projects into negative “what ifs” and those translate into some pretty uncomfortable feelings. But, I remind myself that I have been in many situation in my lifetime that have caused me to feel this way. Certain career challenges, skydiving in my younger days, taking a sailboat out on the open ocean for the first time with my newly minted captains license and my then girlfriend. Long motorcycle trips of over 2000 miles. Starting a couple of businesses from scratch. All of those things, I look back and realize I was stepping into the unknown. I always had to confront those “what if” negative thoughts and feeling. And with each experience there was always that voice whispering “you don’t HAVE to do this”.

One thing I like to say to my friends and to my sons is that “if it does not take you out of your comfort zone, then it’s not really an adventure“. Boy, I realize now that this is the time to put my money where my mouth is. Because this is taking me squarely out of my comfort zone. So, I’ll consider it an adventure. I like adventures.

Like that first parachute jump in 1977, when I was 17 years old, I will face my fears, “get on the jump plane”, and make the leap. There are moments in those first few skydives where I remember thinking to myself “it’s not too late. I don’t have to do this. Nobody can make me jump“. But I did it anyway. Why? Because I wanted above all: The Experience. I had to see for myself what it was like on the other side. To be a skydiver. Likewise now, even though I am in my hotel room in Houston, I find myself thinking “I don’t have to do this“. Lots of second-guessing.

But I won’t. Because I want to know what is “on the other side“ of ED. Actually, I already know what is on the other side of ED, and that is a proper sex life. I’m 63 now and am otherwise in perfect health, and still maintain an active lifestyle and with retirement on the horizon later this year, in Thailand, I do not intend to sit on the fence and let these years go by without sex. I remind myself now of the reason I’m even here. After a lifetime of colorful and vigorous and enjoyable sex, the last few years of diminishing returns on the pills, diminishing effectiveness of the injections, the inexplicable loss of my erection in the middle of sex. Of how changing positions would make my erection disappear. The recent diagnosis of venous leakage. The gradual withdrawal from sex, and declining it when offered because of my fear of failure. How am I to think that any of those things are going to get any better? What’s my option?

I scrolled through the forum a little while ago and I found an old thread in which the OP asked the question of the bionic brothers who preceded him how they were doing. I think that is the last thread I will read for today. I say that because it was so positive. Overwhelmingly the response from the members was “I only wish I would’ve done it sooner“. And other similarly positive responses.

I have also been touched by the maturity and warmth of some of the members here. Not the usual troll-farm I’ve seen on other public forums. I was very surprised to receive a PM today of another user who underwent his own surgery less than a month ago, with the same doctor. He remembered that my surgery is scheduled for tomorrow and wrote to reach out with some words of encouragement. He went on to relate that things were going well for him. I wrote him back, thanked him, and said I could feel his hand of support on my shoulder.

Like I mentioned, I’m sitting alone in the dark pre-sunrise now. Receiving such a note meant a lot. Thank you brother.

I know the early days of the recovery is tumultuous, for at least some guys, and per the doctors instructions I will remain in Houston until the sixth. And then I return home. I’ll try to post some updates on my own recovery journey.
Last edited by ThailandBound on Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:35 am, edited 2 times in total.
Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.

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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby frank66665 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:41 am

your story is beautiful, I wish you the best, you are 19 days ahead of me, I will have mine on the 23rd, I perfectly understand the agitation that this surgery can bring, there are many expectations and we demand them all, God bless us afterwards have suffered so much
56, ED since 2010, pills work but not always and well, trt in progress improved but not so much, myocardial infarction january 2016, new stent september 2016, hypertension, venous on 1/23/23 titan one touch 22, no rte dottor Gabriele Antonini Italia

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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby FreddyFree » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:41 am

Good luck tomorrow! You’ll be fucking in no time! Enjoy!
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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby ThailandBound » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:52 am

FreddyFree wrote:Good luck tomorrow! You’ll be fucking in no time! Enjoy!


Thanks amigo! At this point all I can think about is “how the fuck will it be on the journey home, With a connection in Philadelphia prior to the final leg to West Palm Beach?!l”. :shock:
Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.

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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby ThailandBound » Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:55 am

frank66665 wrote:your story is beautiful, I wish you the best, you are 19 days ahead of me, I will have mine on the 23rd, I perfectly understand the agitation that this surgery can bring, there are many expectations and we demand them all, God bless us afterwards have suffered so much


I read your profile, mentioning your surgery was cancelled after some successes with a new treatment. I can imagine the hope you felt in those moments, which have apparently been replaced by some disappointments, given that you’re on track for the surgery. Let’s stay in touch.
Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.

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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby Rider1400 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:31 am

ThailandBound wrote:So, tomorrow is the big day!

I’ve carved five days out of my schedule for this. I flew from Florida to Houston yesterday for my surgery on January 4 with Dr. Clavelle. Per his recommendation, day one, yesterday, was a simple travel day. Arrived in Houston and checked in at the Westin hotel, about a mile from the surgery center.

Today, day two of my trip, I awakened at 4 AM. Sitting here in my hotel room at the moment, and it is still dark outside. Of course, this is pretty much all I can think about. Today I will pre-register at the surgery center, and take my medication as per the doctors instructions. Surgery is tomorrow at 7:30 AM.

I am grateful for this forum and the many contributors who have preceded me. I have read so much and learned so much. Of course, there are some scary stories in there, and I guess we all just hope that we have done our best to mitigate the risks and that we will be one of the fortunate ones with a good recovery and a good result.

There seems to be such weight to this decision. The mental aspects as the date has approached have really surprised me. I guess it’s just Class-A anxiety. Like most things that make us anxious, the mind projects into negative “what ifs” and those translate into some pretty uncomfortable feelings. But, I remind myself that I have been in many situation in my lifetime that have caused me to feel this way. Certain career challenges, skydiving in my younger days, taking a sailboat out on the open ocean for the first time with my newly minted captains license and my then girlfriend. Long motorcycle trips of over 2000 miles. Starting a couple of businesses from scratch. All of those things, I look back and realize I was stepping into the unknown. I always had to confront those “what if” negative thoughts and feeling. And with each experience there was always that voice whispering “you don’t HAVE to do this”.

One thing I like to say to my friends and to my sons is that “if it does not take you out of your comfort zone, then it’s not really an adventure“. Boy, I realize now that this is the time to put my money where my mouth is. Because this is taking me squarely out of my comfort zone. So, I’ll consider it an adventure. I like adventures.

Like that first parachute jump in 1977, when I was 17 years old, I will face my fears, “get on the jump plane”, and make the leap. There are moments in those first few skydives where I remember thinking to myself “it’s not too late. I don’t have to do this. Nobody can make me jump“. But I did it anyway. Why? Because I wanted above all: The Experience. I had to see for myself what it was like on the other side. To be a skydiver. Likewise now, even though I am in my hotel room in Houston, I find myself thinking “I don’t have to do this“. Lots of second-guessing.

But I won’t. Because I want to know what is “on the other side“ of ED. Actually, I already know what is on the other side of ED, and that is a proper sex life. I’m 63 now and am otherwise in perfect health, and still maintain an active lifestyle and with retirement on the horizon later this year, in Thailand, I do not intend to sit on the fence and let these years go by without sex. I remind myself now of the reason I’m even here. After a lifetime of colorful and vigorous and enjoyable sex, the last few years of diminishing returns on the pills, diminishing effectiveness of the injections, the inexplicable loss of my erection in the middle of sex. Of how changing positions would make my erection disappear. The recent diagnosis of venous leakage. The gradual withdrawal from sex, and declining it when offered because of my fear of failure. How am I to think that any of those things are going to get any better? What’s my option?

I scrolled through the forum a little while ago and I found an old thread in which the OP asked the question of the bionic brothers who preceded him how they were doing. I think that is the last thread I will read for today. I say that because it was so positive. Overwhelmingly the response from the members was “I only wish I would’ve done it sooner“. And other similarly positive responses.

I have also been touched by the maturity and warmth of some of the members here. Not the usual troll-farm I’ve seen on other public forums. I was very surprised to receive a PM today of another user who underwent his own surgery less than a month ago, with the same doctor. He remembered that my surgery is scheduled for tomorrow and wrote to reach out with some words of encouragement. He went on to relate that things were going well for him. I wrote him back, thanked him, and said I could feel his hand of support on my shoulder.

Like I mentioned, I’m sitting alone in the dark pre-sunrise now. Receiving such a note meant a lot. Thank you brother.

I know the early days of the recovery is tumultuous, for at least some guys, and per the doctors instructions I will remain in Houston until the sixth. And then I return home. I’ll try to post some updates on my own recovery journey.


I remember all too well the feelings you described as I sat in a hotel in Dallas(5 hour drive for me from my home in central Arkansas) sounds like your of a positive attitude which in my opinion makes a massive difference in recovery. Hang in there and remember, don’t make any judgements for 4-6 months. I had a very easy recovery yet still got depressed about size immediately after initial pumping. But…. Now after over 7 months my wife and I are impressed with how awesome things are and I’m back to my full size pre surgery and additional girth to boot! Keep the positive attitude! Take it a day at a time and just know you have one of the best surgeons out there so rest assured, you will have great results! In a few months you also will be enjoying the benefits of your surgery! Congratulations!
58year old ED started mid 40s pills failed after 10 years. Injections works but diminishing results with pain. Implanted 5-22 Baylor,Scott,and White Dallas.Dr Michael Wierschem, infrapubic Coloplast 20cm and 1cm RTE. Going strong and loving it!

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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby AmansinCali » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:59 pm

Hey Captain,

Just relax and let your surgeon work his magic, you are in his hands now, he is highly experienced and I'm sure you will not have any problems. Most surgeries and recoveries go textbook all the way, FT has a lot of posts from guys who have had problems, but really, they are in the minority.

Do yourself a favor and stay down, flat, for as many days as you can. It will keep the pressures and swelling down. It is the swelling that makes everything so uncomfortable and can make it feel like you are not healing.

I had my surgery on 9/20 and I have had zero problems, my size equals the before surgery size and all functions of my dick are normal. Don't waste your time worrying about size for 4-6 weeks because the swelling will make it look like you dick is smaller.

Best of luck Captain, and you will be fucking your way across Thailand before you know it. You are doing the right thing; you and your partner are going to love it.
Used Viagra & Cialis until lost vision in one eye due to AION, therefore can never use pills again, then tri-mix 1 1/2 years until unreliable. Implanted 9/20/22 at 77 years old by Dr. Yafi, UC Irvine. Married 55 years wife 76. 20cm Coloplast Titan.

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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby North329 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:10 pm

Hi Thailandboud,

I wish you the best of luck. I was in Houston, where you were, three weeks ago. I like your attitude going into the surgery. Dr. Clavell is great, along with the staff at the hospital. During the first few days, I was very low-key. I iced about every 30 mins. and I did walk a little bit.

I will send you a PM, and feel free to contact me.

Thanks,

North329
57 y/o married. Ed for 20 years, limited success with Viagra, Bimix and finally Trimix. Titan 22 cm implanted with Dr. Clavell 12/14/22.

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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby Old Guy » Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:26 pm

Congrats on getting this done! Yes, it is scary to say the least. The implant was my first ever surgery as an adult and I was so frigging nervous! I hope you have great success, and the trip back home isn't too bad.
Nov. 8, 2019
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Re: My turn. Jan 4, 2023.

Postby ThailandBound » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:11 am

It’s 5 am. A quick post here, then time to catch an uber to the surgical center. 0530 showtime. 0730 surgery. Did the prescribed enema and a shower with lots of scrubbing of the private parts with Hibiclens. Wearing my baggy sweats and oversized hoodie, looking like a bespectacled 63 year old hood rat.

Yesterday seemed like the longest day of my life. Aside from pre registering at the hospital, it was mostly just watching the clock and trying to relax. Distracting myself to little avail. Slept pretty well, a certain unpleasant dream aside.

Getting a Titan, and of course with the cool weather and my apprehension, my dick looks like i just crawled out of an icy stream. “Really?….THIS with a ‘TITAN”? 8-) Well i hope the reality matches the name.

Will update along the road to recovery. Thanks all for the words of support.
Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.


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