Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

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Gadsiee
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby Gadsiee » Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:31 am

Time2Change wrote:
Gadsiee wrote:When I use a combination of cialis, viagra, pt-141, not ejaculating for a few days, I can have good sex missionary style. However, many other positions are not possible because i will go soft. Let alone any spontaneous sex where i didn't get to plan my pills etc.

The fact that, while with all these conditions, I'm still able to get a rock hard erection, makes it very difficult to go get an implant, even though deep down i do feel like i need it. I will be destroying a part of me that in a way works. I have rock hard nocturnal erections. I'm 25 right now. I'm dating a girl for two monts now who, up until this point, still likes me very much. However I feel like every day I wait to get the implant is another day of a great sex life wasted. I'm only letting her come over once a week because if i use the pt141 more often than that tolerance will build up and not work anymore. I make excuses for all the other days. That's no sex life. Funny enough I think this makes her chase and like me even more because I seem so unavailable. But the more she displays interest, the more I die inside because I know she's interested in a fake version of me that I will not be able to keep up forever. Every week when I inject my stomach i'm reflecting what the f**k i'm even doing.

Also I don't know how well "normal" dicks work. Are they rock hard all the time? I have no reference point to see how bad I really am.
I don'tknow what to do.

I know this may sound ungrateful but sometimes I wish I had an accident which cut a nerve or something so the decision to get implant was easily made.


I have a few thoughts on your dilemma.

First, did a doctor prescribe that cocktail of meds? I would be cautious of going beyond what a doctor prescribes.

Second, my ED is from nerve damage at 32 years old. After its onset, I never was able to get hard without using meds. I never got hard while asleep.

Third, I haven't seen you address whether or not you get a good hard on while jerking off. That might be a good indicator of whether or not this is a physical or psychological problem.


My doctor only prescribed the cialis. pt141 is not registered in the netherlands so he couldn't prescribe it even if he wanted to.
I have stopped masturbating because I want to be as horny as possible when with a girl, but I used to go soft when i wasn't stroking my penis. As long as I'm physically stimulated (handjob or PIV) I will usually stay hard. The problem is that the process of taking off my pants, putting on the condom, and finding the "entry" is more than enough time for me to go soft. At thatpoint I will be in my head and getting hard again requires another 20 minutes or so. With pt141 i'm not immune to going soft, but it will usually keep me erect until penetration, at which point i'm golden
25 years old. Lifelong (psychogenic?) ED. Can attain erections with viagra+cialis+PT141 but lose arousal randomly during sex with subsequent loss of erection.

Erections are like private jets. I don't have them

smphead
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby smphead » Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:37 am

Gadsiee wrote:
Time2Change wrote:
Gadsiee wrote:When I use a combination of cialis, viagra, pt-141, not ejaculating for a few days, I can have good sex missionary style. However, many other positions are not possible because i will go soft. Let alone any spontaneous sex where i didn't get to plan my pills etc.

The fact that, while with all these conditions, I'm still able to get a rock hard erection, makes it very difficult to go get an implant, even though deep down i do feel like i need it. I will be destroying a part of me that in a way works. I have rock hard nocturnal erections. I'm 25 right now. I'm dating a girl for two monts now who, up until this point, still likes me very much. However I feel like every day I wait to get the implant is another day of a great sex life wasted. I'm only letting her come over once a week because if i use the pt141 more often than that tolerance will build up and not work anymore. I make excuses for all the other days. That's no sex life. Funny enough I think this makes her chase and like me even more because I seem so unavailable. But the more she displays interest, the more I die inside because I know she's interested in a fake version of me that I will not be able to keep up forever. Every week when I inject my stomach i'm reflecting what the f**k i'm even doing.

Also I don't know how well "normal" dicks work. Are they rock hard all the time? I have no reference point to see how bad I really am.
I don'tknow what to do.

I know this may sound ungrateful but sometimes I wish I had an accident which cut a nerve or something so the decision to get implant was easily made.


I have a few thoughts on your dilemma.

First, did a doctor prescribe that cocktail of meds? I would be cautious of going beyond what a doctor prescribes.

Second, my ED is from nerve damage at 32 years old. After its onset, I never was able to get hard without using meds. I never got hard while asleep.

Third, I haven't seen you address whether or not you get a good hard on while jerking off. That might be a good indicator of whether or not this is a physical or psychological problem.


My doctor only prescribed the cialis. pt141 is not registered in the netherlands so he couldn't prescribe it even if he wanted to.
I have stopped masturbating because I want to be as horny as possible when with a girl, but I used to go soft when i wasn't stroking my penis. As long as I'm physically stimulated (handjob or PIV) I will usually stay hard. The problem is that the process of taking off my pants, putting on the condom, and finding the "entry" is more than enough time for me to go soft. At thatpoint I will be in my head and getting hard again requires another 20 minutes or so. With pt141 i'm not immune to going soft, but it will usually keep me erect until penetration, at which point i'm golden


Told you more times you should have checked your prolactin. That's most likely your problem.
1978, male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
Thinking about Penile Implant.

Gadsiee
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby Gadsiee » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:08 am

smphead wrote:
Gadsiee wrote:
Time2Change wrote:
I have a few thoughts on your dilemma.

First, did a doctor prescribe that cocktail of meds? I would be cautious of going beyond what a doctor prescribes.

Second, my ED is from nerve damage at 32 years old. After its onset, I never was able to get hard without using meds. I never got hard while asleep.

Third, I haven't seen you address whether or not you get a good hard on while jerking off. That might be a good indicator of whether or not this is a physical or psychological problem.


My doctor only prescribed the cialis. pt141 is not registered in the netherlands so he couldn't prescribe it even if he wanted to.
I have stopped masturbating because I want to be as horny as possible when with a girl, but I used to go soft when i wasn't stroking my penis. As long as I'm physically stimulated (handjob or PIV) I will usually stay hard. The problem is that the process of taking off my pants, putting on the condom, and finding the "entry" is more than enough time for me to go soft. At thatpoint I will be in my head and getting hard again requires another 20 minutes or so. With pt141 i'm not immune to going soft, but it will usually keep me erect until penetration, at which point i'm golden


Told you more times you should have checked your prolactin. That's most likely your problem.


I ordered a prolactin blood test. I doubt that's the issue but it's worth checking out
25 years old. Lifelong (psychogenic?) ED. Can attain erections with viagra+cialis+PT141 but lose arousal randomly during sex with subsequent loss of erection.

Erections are like private jets. I don't have them

seekonk
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby seekonk » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:33 am

I think ghb is part of your problem. I have come across guys who used it and they seem to get horny from it but it makes them absolutely lose their erections.

Gadsiee
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby Gadsiee » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:35 am

seekonk wrote:I think ghb is part of your problem. I have come across guys who used it and they seem to get horny from it but it makes them absolutely lose their erections.


It is supposed to be one of the few anxiolytic drugs that do not mess with erections. I started using it actually because of ED, i didn't develop ED after it's usage. That being said, it doesn't really seem to make a difference either good or bad for me, but I don't really notice ANY mental effects from it. I seem to be a insensitive to it
25 years old. Lifelong (psychogenic?) ED. Can attain erections with viagra+cialis+PT141 but lose arousal randomly during sex with subsequent loss of erection.

Erections are like private jets. I don't have them

seekonk
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby seekonk » Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:46 am

Gadsiee wrote:
seekonk wrote:I think ghb is part of your problem. I have come across guys who used it and they seem to get horny from it but it makes them absolutely lose their erections.


It is supposed to be one of the few anxiolytic drugs that do not mess with erections. I started using it actually because of ED, i didn't develop ED after it's usage. That being said, it doesn't really seem to make a difference either good or bad for me, but I don't really notice ANY mental effects from it. I seem to be a insensitive to it


I wish there were anxiolytic drugs that didn't mess with erections. I keep asking my men's health doc for something but he keeps telling me there's nothing. Quite a predicament for ED that is anxiety-related. He just likes therapy and I think therapy is bullshit, but maybe it helps some people.

Have you tried marijuana? For a long time marijuana helped me a lot.

Fourtytwo00
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby Fourtytwo00 » Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:21 pm

Ghb may even lower dopamine.

Btw anxiolytics, as a rule of the thumb, depress in one way or another central nervous system. Anti anxiety drugs are not intended to keep you excited and horny. It's a feature, not a bug.

Self prescribing tons of drugs while avoiding intimacy is a recipe for disaster imho. PDE5s don't work if your brain is KO. Don't push away a woman in such a way and don't pretend to be the kind of "alpha male" you aren't. You don't need it because she likes you and she is giving you opportunities. And it's useless because you can't fake lack of experience in real world.

Just use pills. Takes your time with more foreplay and giving her your tongue.

Actually I didn't like condoms when I was younger.

Gadsiee
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby Gadsiee » Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:33 pm

Fourtytwo00 wrote:Ghb may even lower dopamine.

Btw anxiolytics, as a rule of the thumb, depress in one way or another central nervous system. Anti anxiety drugs are not intended to keep you excited and horny. It's a feature, not a bug.

Self prescribing tons of drugs while avoiding intimacy is a recipe for disaster imho. PDE5s don't work if your brain is KO. Don't push away a woman in such a way and don't pretend to be the kind of "alpha male" you aren't. You don't need it because she likes you and she is giving you opportunities. And it's useless because you can't fake lack of experience in real world.

Just use pills. Takes your time with more foreplay and giving her your tongue.

Actually I didn't like condoms when I was younger.


Yeah condoms suck to put on. When I do manage to put it on and penetrate it does make me last long which is nice. Ghb is not something I've used often as I don't really care for it. I just wanted to test it out. Viagra + pt141 is nonnegotiable unfortunately. I have never had penetrative sex without a drug. And I have never had penetrative sex with viagra alone in the past 3 years. With my ex, whom I didn't a use a condom with, viagra alone was enough, although far from 100% successful. Viagra + PT141 makes me successful more than 50% of the time WITH a condom.
25 years old. Lifelong (psychogenic?) ED. Can attain erections with viagra+cialis+PT141 but lose arousal randomly during sex with subsequent loss of erection.

Erections are like private jets. I don't have them

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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby ShouldIwait » Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:53 pm

Have you tried injections? They might work much better than your drug cocktail. I loved BiMix the years it worked. Way better than pills. but now that I am implanted, I'm coming to the same response...wish i had done it sooner ;)
57, ED 10-15 years. Pills, Bi, Tri then Quad Mix Injections- all slowly less effective. IPP July 2022 (Penscrotal, Titan, 22 + 1) @6mo back to OEM--7.2"L x 5.5"w

Time2Change
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Re: Decision to get an implant is so difficult if your dick somewhat works

Postby Time2Change » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:17 pm

Gadsiee wrote:
Time2Change wrote:
Gadsiee wrote:When I use a combination of cialis, viagra, pt-141, not ejaculating for a few days, I can have good sex missionary style. However, many other positions are not possible because i will go soft. Let alone any spontaneous sex where i didn't get to plan my pills etc.

The fact that, while with all these conditions, I'm still able to get a rock hard erection, makes it very difficult to go get an implant, even though deep down i do feel like i need it. I will be destroying a part of me that in a way works. I have rock hard nocturnal erections. I'm 25 right now. I'm dating a girl for two monts now who, up until this point, still likes me very much. However I feel like every day I wait to get the implant is another day of a great sex life wasted. I'm only letting her come over once a week because if i use the pt141 more often than that tolerance will build up and not work anymore. I make excuses for all the other days. That's no sex life. Funny enough I think this makes her chase and like me even more because I seem so unavailable. But the more she displays interest, the more I die inside because I know she's interested in a fake version of me that I will not be able to keep up forever. Every week when I inject my stomach i'm reflecting what the f**k i'm even doing.

Also I don't know how well "normal" dicks work. Are they rock hard all the time? I have no reference point to see how bad I really am.
I don'tknow what to do.

I know this may sound ungrateful but sometimes I wish I had an accident which cut a nerve or something so the decision to get implant was easily made.


I have a few thoughts on your dilemma.

First, did a doctor prescribe that cocktail of meds? I would be cautious of going beyond what a doctor prescribes.

Second, my ED is from nerve damage at 32 years old. After its onset, I never was able to get hard without using meds. I never got hard while asleep.

Third, I haven't seen you address whether or not you get a good hard on while jerking off. That might be a good indicator of whether or not this is a physical or psychological problem.


My doctor only prescribed the cialis. pt141 is not registered in the netherlands so he couldn't prescribe it even if he wanted to.
I have stopped masturbating because I want to be as horny as possible when with a girl, but I used to go soft when i wasn't stroking my penis. As long as I'm physically stimulated (handjob or PIV) I will usually stay hard. The problem is that the process of taking off my pants, putting on the condom, and finding the "entry" is more than enough time for me to go soft. At thatpoint I will be in my head and getting hard again requires another 20 minutes or so. With pt141 i'm not immune to going soft, but it will usually keep me erect until penetration, at which point i'm golden


So, am I right in saying you don't have a diagnosed physical problem causing your ED?

I'm just pushing more because of your age. At 51, my doctor considered me a young man to be getting an implant.

If you get an implant now, you are looking at 3 or 4 revisions over the course of your life.

I get that the implant is a concrete, effective treatment for ED.

But if counseling could have cured my ED, I would have much preferred that route.
55; ED for 22+ years; Coloplast Titan implant on 10/26/20; Dr. Martin Gross; Happy to share my experiences in private messages


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