Would you put surgery on hold?

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seekonk
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Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby seekonk » Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:25 pm

I have implant surgery scheduled in a few weeks for venous leak caused by injection scarring and slight peyronies.

As a last ditch effort, I got PT141 prescribed and together with a few dick pills it helped me to be hard enough for penetration for a respectable time, on and off for a few hours. It was about 90% hard and penetration caused some loss of fullness to, say 80%, so I couldn’t reach orgasm. I need that feeling of 100% stretch and reach otherwise I don’t have much sensation and the angle isn’t quite right and the base hurts if it swivels.

Apart from this instance I haven’t been able to have penetrative sex with people in the past year or two. Masturbation sometimes works well with a combo of pills and sometimes doesn’t work with a combo of pills. It takes a lot of pills either way and failures cause bad issues for me.

Penile injections had stopped working altogether even in large doses and I don’t want to cause more scarring.

The PT141 night I got a sleep erection that I couldn’t get down to pee, like when I was very young. This never happens anymore, they always just disappear as soon as I move in bed. I was actually worried for a while it wouldn’t go down.

The side effects of PT141 are not well understood and I don’t know if it might make the problem worse. What if it causes dependence for sexual function? It supposedly acts centrally on libido so what if it makes my regular libido go away?

I am curious as to what decision members here would make. I don’t know now if I might have the same lack of sensation problem implanted. Maybe I wouldn’t feel the stretch and reach with an implant either, especially if I lose girth, or the angle won’t feel right either, and then I can’t undo it.

I don’t want to burn bridges if I postpone surgery late, so I need to decide soon.

newbie443
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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby newbie443 » Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:17 pm

My implant gives me that stretch feeling but only with pump adding inflations. I have an LGX that expands in length and girth. I would not put the surgery on hold but I would use a VED for penis exercise until the surgery. If you want to continue meds for sex until then I would think a call to your doctor to find out if and when you should stop meds before the surgery. From what you are saying you still do not have anything that works in a reliable way. The only reason I would put the surgery off would be if you want a different doctor. But if you did your research on your doctor and the doctor does aggressive sizing and does not have long waits for activation and you spoke to a man (men) who the doctor implanted then you are good to go.

If you are not using a VED for penis therapy start right away. It will help your doctor more aggressively size you and reduce size loss form surgery. There is a very good article in the general discussion section of this site in the documents worth reading thread pined to the top titled penis exercise.

The thing is this part of you is greatly diminished. For me it was completely gone. For you nothing right now works 100%. And you past treatments (injections) have caused damage. Implants will work 100% and get that part of you back more than any other option. Yes there are some risks with this. But it is your best option. But it is up to. If you are not ready and want to wait that is up to you.

Good luck.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:43 pm

Seekonk, it sounds like after 1 sexual encounter that you believe your ED is cured. Well, at least close enough to delay the implant. That belief is so far past being reasonable that I'm surprised you reached it.
Sure, postpone your surgery. Go through the rollercoaster ride of it works no it doesn't work some more times.
In my opinion, if you're that ready to skip the implant this quickly, you wasn't ready to begin with.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby aslanglobal » Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:53 pm

I used PT 141 and MT2 for a few years to deal with ED before implant. Viagra and cialis stopped working. This stuff allowed me to cope for about 3 years, but it didn't solve the problem. In addition, your body needs more and more over time for the same result. In addition, I gave myself priaprism from the dosing requred. Also, I would have to time it JUST right. It also made me nauseated. I also developed pretty bad heartburn. Temporarily, the stuff is way better than viagra and allowed me to have sex. But my problems just got worse over time. In one year, it likely won't be working the same if you have to use it frequently (+2-3 x a week). Just my two cents, but if you have an actual venous leak, documented by an MD and are scheduled for the implant, I would just go through with it.

My doc mentioned my dick still worked, but it was damaged and the problem wasn't going to get better. "You can get other opinions. I'll just see you next year or the next". I didn't wanna postpone it anymore, or have to inject myself looking at a clock when it came to sex. Or time it so I would throw up at the right time before I got ready to have sex. Recovery from the implant isn't wonderful, but after a week you're a full human again. I couldn't say what you should do, but I know what I would do, and basically did. Only you can make that choice.



seekonk wrote:I have implant surgery scheduled in a few weeks for venous leak caused by injection scarring and slight peyronies.

As a last ditch effort, I got PT141 prescribed and together with a few dick pills it helped me to be hard enough for penetration for a respectable time, on and off for a few hours. It was about 90% hard and penetration caused some loss of fullness to, say 80%, so I couldn’t reach orgasm. I need that feeling of 100% stretch and reach otherwise I don’t have much sensation and the angle isn’t quite right and the base hurts if it swivels.

Apart from this instance I haven’t been able to have penetrative sex with people in the past year or two. Masturbation sometimes works well with a combo of pills and sometimes doesn’t work with a combo of pills. It takes a lot of pills either way and failures cause bad issues for me.

Penile injections had stopped working altogether even in large doses and I don’t want to cause more scarring.

The PT141 night I got a sleep erection that I couldn’t get down to pee, like when I was very young. This never happens anymore, they always just disappear as soon as I move in bed. I was actually worried for a while it wouldn’t go down.

The side effects of PT141 are not well understood and I don’t know if it might make the problem worse. What if it causes dependence for sexual function? It supposedly acts centrally on libido so what if it makes my regular libido go away?

I am curious as to what decision members here would make. I don’t know now if I might have the same lack of sensation problem implanted. Maybe I wouldn’t feel the stretch and reach with an implant either, especially if I lose girth, or the angle won’t feel right either, and then I can’t undo it.

I don’t want to burn bridges if I postpone surgery late, so I need to decide soon.
37, Implanted 8/10/21. 22 cm Titan, Dr. Tariq Hakky.

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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby AmansinCali » Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:42 pm

Seekonk,
I think nearly every guy who decides to get an implant somewhere along the line has second thoughts and doubts, it is easy to come up with "What if's."

You don't have a signature and you don't state you age or position in life, not that it makes that much difference, but at the same time it does.

Pills and injections are a great way to go when they are dependable and reliable, but they stop working after a while, it is usually simple to just increase the dose. When they begin to fail with increased dosages, I think it becomes time to find another solution. You already made that decision once and now you are having doubts. You admit you haven't been able to have penetrative sex for a year or two, except for the one instance.

You have been on FT for well over a year, how many times have you read about some guy getting an implant then saying it was the worst decision he ever made. I think for you to postpone your surgery now would just cause you a huge waste of time, the sooner you have the surgery the sooner you will have a dependable working dick. I am only about 5 weeks out of surgery, and I know I made the right decision.
Used Viagra & Cialis until lost vision in one eye due to AION, therefore can never use pills again, then tri-mix 1 1/2 years until unreliable. Implanted 9/20/22 at 77 years old by Dr. Yafi, UC Irvine. Married 55 years wife 76. 20cm Coloplast Titan.

seekonk
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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby seekonk » Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:15 pm

Thanks for the answers.

I am single. I'm avoiding sex and most of the time avoiding masturbation. I have a good sex drive and would like to be able to be able to jerk off and have dates and casual sex again.

What is so frustrating and giving me pause is that I get strong night erections almost every night for what feels like hours sometimes (light sleeper). But then daytime when I just want to rub one out, despite taking a combination of dick pills daily I keep losing the erection and so I go for a week or two at a time backed up blue balls unable to masturbate and miserable. And then randomly I get a good erection to masturbate with two or three times a month and I doubt the implant decision.

Never mind sex, I just want to be able to at the very least masturbate when I feel the urge and an implant is likely the only way to get that, but what's up with the night erections and the decent day erection once in a while?

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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby ED2013 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:10 pm

First off, mixing meds like pills and injections is dangerous. Second, using both, you were not able to achieve 100 percent hardness. Don’t fool yourself. You need surgery.

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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby ED2013 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:12 pm

seekonk wrote:Thanks for the answers.

I am single. I'm avoiding sex and most of the time avoiding masturbation. I have a good sex drive and would like to be able to be able to jerk off and have dates and casual sex again.

What is so frustrating and giving me pause is that I get strong night erections almost every night for what feels like hours sometimes (light sleeper). But then daytime when I just want to rub one out, despite taking a combination of dick pills daily I keep losing the erection and so I go for a week or two at a time backed up blue balls unable to masturbate and miserable. And then randomly I get a good erection to masturbate with two or three times a month and I doubt the implant decision.

Never mind sex, I just want to be able to at the very least masturbate when I feel the urge and an implant is likely the only way to get that, but what's up with the night erections and the decent day erection once in a while?

When you have a night erection, get up and stand up. Does it stay rock hard for several minutes?

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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby Fourtytwo00 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:55 pm

seekonk wrote:Thanks for the answers.

I am single. I'm avoiding sex and most of the time avoiding masturbation. I have a good sex drive and would like to be able to be able to jerk off and have dates and casual sex again.

What is so frustrating and giving me pause is that I get strong night erections almost every night for what feels like hours sometimes (light sleeper). But then daytime when I just want to rub one out, despite taking a combination of dick pills daily I keep losing the erection and so I go for a week or two at a time backed up blue balls unable to masturbate and miserable. And then randomly I get a good erection to masturbate with two or three times a month and I doubt the implant decision.

Never mind sex, I just want to be able to at the very least masturbate when I feel the urge and an implant is likely the only way to get that, but what's up with the night erections and the decent day erection once in a while?


I understand you. I don't feel ready to give up nocturnal erections too. I dislike pills unreliability, which makes difficult planning and give me bad mood when working poorly. The fact is every time a have a decent week I feel like I don't want to give up. Even if I know it's just a shitty moving up and down.

seekonk
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Re: Would you put surgery on hold?

Postby seekonk » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:13 pm

ED2013 wrote: When you have a night erection, get up and stand up. Does it stay rock hard for several minutes?


It usually goes away when I move, but the night after I tried PT-141 it stayed hard for several minutes.


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