Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

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España1980
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Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby España1980 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:42 pm

I don't know much about this but I see that implant brands give a lifetime guarantee. I see many people whose implants last 5, 6 or 7 years, and they have to have a revision due to implant failure. and I always wonder if they pay the same amount of money again. it may be a dumb question but i need to clarify it

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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby Gt1956 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:01 pm

Depends on what type of revision you get. A simple pump replacement by most logic should cost less than a complete change. The word "revision" gets thrown around on FT a lot. A definition of what is included in the "revision" should determine the cost.
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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby frank66665 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:15 pm

Gt1956 wrote:Depends on what type of revision you get. A simple pump replacement by most logic should cost less than a complete change. The word "revision" gets thrown around on FT a lot. A definition of what is included in the "revision" should determine the cost.

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56, ED since 2010, pills work but not well, trt in progress for 20 months, myocardial infarction January 2016, and stent September 2016, hypertension, venous loss, implant canceled because the pills started working again with the addition of proviron

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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby wolfpacker » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:21 pm

Theoretically the additional implant devices *should* be covered by the manufacturer if the device breaks. I paid coloplast $9509 for my Titan in June 2021 so I'd expect to pay $9509 less next time around if implant breakage is the cause of the revision
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby frank66665 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:26 pm

wolfpacker wrote:Theoretically the additional implant devices *should* be covered by the manufacturer if the device breaks. I paid coloplast $9509 for my Titan in June 2021 so I'd expect to pay $9509 less next time around if implant breakage is the cause of the revision

it means you will pay around $ 20,000
56, ED since 2010, pills work but not well, trt in progress for 20 months, myocardial infarction January 2016, and stent September 2016, hypertension, venous loss, implant canceled because the pills started working again with the addition of proviron

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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby Wiggles123 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:31 pm

Take it from me the revisions cost more than the original.......
ED began 40s and progressed. AMS 700 installed 4-2019 by Dr Richard Natale - failed 5-2021. Re-implanted 6-2021 with issue (scrotal hematoma that became infected). Dr. could not find cause. Dr. Ryan Terlecki resolved - reinstall (3rd) on 3-28-2022.

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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby España1980 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:08 pm

Wiggles123 wrote:Take it from me the revisions cost more than the original.......

why does it say that? how much did it cost you?

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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby Wiggles123 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:14 pm

Insurance was billed 65K for first one (insurance adjusted to they paid 38K and I paid 2 K).

After failure second implant was 85K billed to insurance (insurance adjusted to BCBS paid 44K and I paid 3K).

Last implant was billed at 105K (BCBS settled at 68K and I paid $3,500). Was told that the previous issues created a lot of scar tissue to deal with, but all came out well and all good now.
ED began 40s and progressed. AMS 700 installed 4-2019 by Dr Richard Natale - failed 5-2021. Re-implanted 6-2021 with issue (scrotal hematoma that became infected). Dr. could not find cause. Dr. Ryan Terlecki resolved - reinstall (3rd) on 3-28-2022.

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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby ED2013 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:11 pm

Wiggles123 wrote:Insurance was billed 65K for first one (insurance adjusted to they paid 38K and I paid 2 K).

After failure second implant was 85K billed to insurance (insurance adjusted to BCBS paid 44K and I paid 3K).

Last implant was billed at 105K (BCBS settled at 68K and I paid $3,500). Was told that the previous issues created a lot of scar tissue to deal with, but all came out well and all good now.


Did you lose any size from your first implant compared to the last ?

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Re: Do revisions cost the same money as the initial implant?

Postby frank66665 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 3:26 pm

Wiggles123 wrote:Insurance was billed 65K for first one (insurance adjusted to they paid 38K and I paid 2 K).

After failure second implant was 85K billed to insurance (insurance adjusted to BCBS paid 44K and I paid 3K).

Last implant was billed at 105K (BCBS settled at 68K and I paid $3,500). Was told that the previous issues created a lot of scar tissue to deal with, but all came out well and all good now.

Could it be that Dr. Richard Natale is not very competent? or do you think that the same thing would have happened with eid, the counter-proof is not there, but I see few problems and many implants made by eid
56, ED since 2010, pills work but not well, trt in progress for 20 months, myocardial infarction January 2016, and stent September 2016, hypertension, venous loss, implant canceled because the pills started working again with the addition of proviron


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