How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

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lifelong
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How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby lifelong » Fri May 13, 2022 11:18 pm

Hi

I'm currently considering an implant and discussing it with different surgeons.

I've been dependent on injections since 20 and am now 40.

As you know, there is nothing spontaneous about injections. I have to always plan in advance. Sex is maximum once a day and a lot of girls aren't ok with that (I date alot younger as I have no kids or spouse or baggage). No matter the mixture I stay hard for 3-5 hrs and that's also weird for the girl (20 yrs exp trust me I've tried every combo). While I get very engorged the glans doesn't and the shaft gets cold 90 mins in. So while I am thankful I have injections, i've been alone all my life as all my relationships are very quick flings as I've never wanted to share my secret with anyone. I'm highly successful on the outside but so miserable on the inside. I finally broke down and took time away from work after letting the girl of my dreams get away BC I couldn't tell her why I could not sleep with her as much as she wanted. Not the first time this has happened but the toll it takes......

So although injections work, I am considering the implant. I'm in Canada but fine to goto the US for it.

I do worry quite a bit about the look of it (less natural? Less engorged?) and my biggest hangup is dealing with malfunctions which I presume take you out of action for 3 months or so? (Time to rebook, and heal). I don't think there's a way around the latter.

But another issue is how well can you hide the fact you have an implant? I am guessing the surgical scars are well hidden. How about pumping it up? Can you do this during foreplay without her noticing? Right now I can excuse myself to the washroom and inject in 30 seconds - or before she arrives. I realize of course an implant allows you to have sex multiple times a day so there's that huge benefit.

As an aside, are there positions you have to be careful of or avoid (higher risk of damage to the implant). Is rough sex a no no? Being single, 40, and in a profession that appeals to
Women I fortunately have tons of opportunity - but right now without being to take advantage for the most part it's more like torture.
41 years old, ED for 20 years, likely multifactorial (nerve & vascular etiology). Deciding on surgeon for implant. Canada

Hrc714
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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby Hrc714 » Sat May 14, 2022 7:19 am

I was able to pump the AMS devices discreetly but the pump itself was bulky and hard to not notice with any touching. The Titan pump is smaller and smoother, but mine squeaks when depressed. Hard not to notice. Perhaps, if you are really good, you can time it with her moans.
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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby newbiehere23 » Sat May 14, 2022 11:52 am

lifelong wrote:Hi

I'm currently considering an implant and discussing it with different surgeons.

I've been dependent on injections since 20 and am now 40.

As you know, there is nothing spontaneous about injections. I have to always plan in advance. Sex is maximum once a day and a lot of girls aren't ok with that (I date alot younger as I have no kids or spouse or baggage). No matter the mixture I stay hard for 3-5 hrs and that's also weird for the girl (20 yrs exp trust me I've tried every combo). While I get very engorged the glans doesn't and the shaft gets cold 90 mins in. So while I am thankful I have injections, i've been alone all my life as all my relationships are very quick flings as I've never wanted to share my secret with anyone. I'm highly successful on the outside but so miserable on the inside. I finally broke down and took time away from work after letting the girl of my dreams get away BC I couldn't tell her why I could not sleep with her as much as she wanted. Not the first time this has happened but the toll it takes......

So although injections work, I am considering the implant. I'm in Canada but fine to goto the US for it.

I do worry quite a bit about the look of it (less natural? Less engorged?) and my biggest hangup is dealing with malfunctions which I presume take you out of action for 3 months or so? (Time to rebook, and heal). I don't think there's a way around the latter.

But another issue is how well can you hide the fact you have an implant? I am guessing the surgical scars are well hidden. How about pumping it up? Can you do this during foreplay without her noticing? Right now I can excuse myself to the washroom and inject in 30 seconds - or before she arrives. I realize of course an implant allows you to have sex multiple times a day so there's that huge benefit.

As an aside, are there positions you have to be careful of or avoid (higher risk of damage to the implant). Is rough sex a no no? Being single, 40, and in a profession that appeals to
Women I fortunately have tons of opportunity - but right now without being to take advantage for the most part it's more like torture.


Couldn't you go twice in a day after you orgasm? e.g. you finish and just keep thrusting? I've done that with cialis a bunch of times. Obviously it doesn't fix the spontaneousness but at least you can longer. Totally understand why you'd get an implant but it seems like the twice a day is easy to fix if you just keep thrusting.

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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby RoboCock69 » Sat May 14, 2022 12:10 pm

If you're at a girl's place or she is at yours, and you're expecting (or hoping for) action, pump to about 60-70% before you settle in on the couch. You can keep it there for hours with no pain or discomfort, and that way if things heat up and she reaches down there, you'll have something going. She won't be expecting a full-on rager by that point. From there, you should only be about 10-15 squeezes from full tumescence, and those are pretty easy to pull off one or two at a time during foreplay without being noticed. If she's begging for it and you're still not as hard as you want to be, an easy way to get those last few pumps in is to do it while "dining at the Y" -- if you're working that tongue right, she's not going to know or care what you're doing with your hand.
Born 1982. Progressive ED from VL. Cialis/Viagra slowly lost effectiveness. Implanted 8/31/21 Titan 22cm by Dr. Perito. Minor revision 5/2/22 to replace faulty connector, fucking again in two weeks. "It's the girth that gets her off."

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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby oldbeek » Sat May 14, 2022 2:00 pm

Word of caution. If your glans and cock get cold with trimix, It may be totally cold with an implant. There are separate nerves that cause the engorgement. Trimix does a good job of creating blood flow everywhere. My dick is a popsicle on a stick when my implant is pumped up. I have introduced trimix gel to create blood flow to my glans. Just a note on what I have observed.
80, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21. Pain with trimix, implant 4-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 4.5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby lifelong » Sat May 14, 2022 10:27 pm

Hrc714 wrote:I was able to pump the AMS devices discreetly but the pump itself was bulky and hard to not notice with any touching. The Titan pump is smaller and smoother, but mine squeaks when depressed. Hard not to notice. Perhaps, if you are really good, you can time it with her moans.


It squeaks? Dis you inquire if that's a malfunction they would cover for replacement?

Would be quite annoying no?
41 years old, ED for 20 years, likely multifactorial (nerve & vascular etiology). Deciding on surgeon for implant. Canada

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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby lifelong » Sat May 14, 2022 10:28 pm

newbiehere23 wrote:
lifelong wrote:Hi

I'm currently considering an implant and discussing it with different surgeons.

I've been dependent on injections since 20 and am now 40.

As you know, there is nothing spontaneous about injections. I have to always plan in advance. Sex is maximum once a day and a lot of girls aren't ok with that (I date alot younger as I have no kids or spouse or baggage). No matter the mixture I stay hard for 3-5 hrs and that's also weird for the girl (20 yrs exp trust me I've tried every combo). While I get very engorged the glans doesn't and the shaft gets cold 90 mins in. So while I am thankful I have injections, i've been alone all my life as all my relationships are very quick flings as I've never wanted to share my secret with anyone. I'm highly successful on the outside but so miserable on the inside. I finally broke down and took time away from work after letting the girl of my dreams get away BC I couldn't tell her why I could not sleep with her as much as she wanted. Not the first time this has happened but the toll it takes......

So although injections work, I am considering the implant. I'm in Canada but fine to goto the US for it.

I do worry quite a bit about the look of it (less natural? Less engorged?) and my biggest hangup is dealing with malfunctions which I presume take you out of action for 3 months or so? (Time to rebook, and heal). I don't think there's a way around the latter.

But another issue is how well can you hide the fact you have an implant? I am guessing the surgical scars are well hidden. How about pumping it up? Can you do this during foreplay without her noticing? Right now I can excuse myself to the washroom and inject in 30 seconds - or before she arrives. I realize of course an implant allows you to have sex multiple times a day so there's that huge benefit.

As an aside, are there positions you have to be careful of or avoid (higher risk of damage to the implant). Is rough sex a no no? Being single, 40, and in a profession that appeals to
Women I fortunately have tons of opportunity - but right now without being to take advantage for the most part it's more like torture.


Couldn't you go twice in a day after you orgasm
? e.g. you finish and just keep thrusting? I've done that with cialis a bunch of times. Obviously it doesn't fix the spontaneousness but at least you can longer. Totally understand why you'd get an implant but it seems like the twice a day is easy to fix if you just keep thrusting.



The point is two different occasions. Lots of girls don't like being fucked 3-4 hrs straight. Let's say morning and then dinner for example is what I was getting ay
41 years old, ED for 20 years, likely multifactorial (nerve & vascular etiology). Deciding on surgeon for implant. Canada

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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby lifelong » Sat May 14, 2022 10:30 pm

RoboCock69 wrote:If you're at a girl's place or she is at yours, and you're expecting (or hoping for) action, pump to about 60-70% before you settle in on the couch. You can keep it there for hours with no pain or discomfort, and that way if things heat up and she reaches down there, you'll have something going. She won't be expecting a full-on rager by that point. From there, you should only be about 10-15 squeezes from full tumescence, and those are pretty easy to pull off one or two at a time during foreplay without being noticed. If she's begging for it and you're still not as hard as you want to be, an easy way to get those last few pumps in is to do it while "dining at the Y" -- if you're working that tongue right, she's not going to know or care what you're doing with your hand.


This was really helpful (and what I was hoping to hear I admit). Thanks
41 years old, ED for 20 years, likely multifactorial (nerve & vascular etiology). Deciding on surgeon for implant. Canada

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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby lifelong » Sat May 14, 2022 10:32 pm

oldbeek wrote:Word of caution. If your glans and cock get cold with trimix, It may be totally cold with an implant. There are separate nerves that cause the engorgement. Trimix does a good job of creating blood flow everywhere. My dick is a popsicle on a stick when my implant is pumped up. I have introduced trimix gel to create blood flow to my glans. Just a note on what I have observed.


Thanks. I'll have to mention this to the surgeon

It gets cold after two plus hours. I figured that was normal given your cock is ischemic at that point or close to it. Hence you don't want an erection that long
41 years old, ED for 20 years, likely multifactorial (nerve & vascular etiology). Deciding on surgeon for implant. Canada

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Re: How subtle can you pump? And limits on type of sex?

Postby Lost Sheep » Sun May 15, 2022 2:51 am

lifelong wrote:But another issue is how well can you hide the fact you have an implant? I am guessing the surgical scars are well hidden. How about pumping it up? Can you do this during foreplay without her noticing? Right now I can excuse myself to the washroom and inject in 30 seconds - or before she arrives. I realize of course an implant allows you to have sex multiple times a day so there's that huge benefit.

As an aside, are there positions you have to be careful of or avoid (higher risk of damage to the implant). Is rough sex a no no? Being single, 40, and in a profession that appeals to
Women I fortunately have tons of opportunity - but right now without being to take advantage for the most part it's more like torture.

Why bother trying to hide it? I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of reports of women who dislike sex with their implanted man.

In my experience, women respond to honesty and trust.
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