Life span on implants

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Pamen116
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Life span on implants

Postby Pamen116 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:56 pm

In reality what is the lifespan of a average IPP? I heard people say it 13 years but I’ve found it rare to come across anyone who’s had it for longer than 5
30 yrs old. Current IPP failed in 2022. Waiting revision. No insurance. I’ve had both Titan & AMS.

Lost Sheep
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Re: Life span on implants

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:14 pm

Where do you search?

The population on FrankTalk is self-selected and very likely not representative of all implanted men. Men who are too busy USING their implants may not post here. At least, not until their implants fail or give trouble.

Far better, I think to read medical journals (peer-reviewed reputable ones) for studies on implants' service lives. Second-best is to ask implant surgeons, though they do not always keep in touch with their patients over the long haul.
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Re: Life span on implants

Postby jimmi85 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:18 pm

I don’t know but I would say;

5 years is the average minimum lifespan.
15 years is the most common talked about number for maximum lifespan
8-12 years is the most likely lifespan depending on usage
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Endoftheline
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Re: Life span on implants

Postby Endoftheline » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:08 pm

jimmi85 wrote:I don’t know but I would say;

5 years is the average minimum lifespan.
15 years is the most common talked about number for maximum lifespan
8-12 years is the most likely lifespan depending on usage


I've seen a post earlier that quoted eid as saying the latest implants are good for 200,000 inflation. I think it's mostly a matter of luck and the quality of the implant itself rather than usage.

If usage is a big predictor I'm gonna be in big trouble, ive had ED since sexually active and probably going to abuse it for a while to make up for lost time :/
29 years old and suffered from ED for over 16 years
I had hard flaccid (Potentially Post SSRI Sexual Dysfunction) , turned to long flaccid after priaprism incident.
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Old Guy
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Re: Life span on implants

Postby Old Guy » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:21 pm

Endoftheline wrote:If usage is a big predictor I'm gonna be in big trouble, ive had ED since sexually active and probably going to abuse it for a while to make up for lost time :/


LOL, that was my thought at first, I'm gonna break this thing the first month from overuse!

There are just too many variables to definitely say how long an implant will last. Usage, accidents, exercise routines, not following surgeons' orders after implant, etc. I've been wondering if sleeping on my stomach and bending my shaft down between my legs might lead to early failure. Then possible manufacturing issues that might occur.
That thought makes me want to know how they test these things before it gets stuck inside a man. LOL
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Re: Life span on implants

Postby Lester33 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:41 pm

We told Dr Perito if you can break one or wear it out I would be back. Going on four years now and it works perfectly.

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Fourtytwo00
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Re: Life span on implants

Postby Fourtytwo00 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:34 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:Where do you search?

The population on FrankTalk is self-selected and very likely not representative of all implanted men. Men who are too busy USING their implants may not post here. At least, not until their implants fail or give trouble.

Far better, I think to read medical journals (peer-reviewed reputable ones) for studies on implants' service lives. Second-best is to ask implant surgeons, though they do not always keep in touch with their patients over the long haul.


Assuming people are more likely to post when they're in trouble - which is reasonable, it's not a good explanation for many low single digit malfunctioning. Unless you assume that people at 4 years mark are more likely to report their problems than people at 8 years mark.

My guesstimate is that's better to start early for a revision.

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Re: Life span on implants

Postby Lost Sheep » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:04 pm

Fourtytwo00 wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:Where do you search?

The population on FrankTalk is self-selected and very likely not representative of all implanted men. Men who are too busy USING their implants may not post here. At least, not until their implants fail or give trouble.

Far better, I think to read medical journals (peer-reviewed reputable ones) for studies on implants' service lives. Second-best is to ask implant surgeons, though they do not always keep in touch with their patients over the long haul.


Assuming people are more likely to post when they're in trouble - which is reasonable, it's not a good explanation for many low single digit malfunctioning. Unless you assume that people at 4 years mark are more likely to report their problems than people at 8 years mark.

My guesstimate is that's better to start early for a revision.

Many mechanical devices (and I think IPPs are among them) either fail early or have a long life. There are reasons for this buried in statistics which I am not equipped to go deeply into, but it makes sense that, just as all devices will last a particular length of time, most devices will not fail in a linear way, either.

That is, taking human beings in past centuries as an example. Babies born either died in their first couple of years or lived into their 50s (absent wars, natural disasters and epidemics). So IPPs, if they follow that model either fail early (perhaps because of manufacturing defects or medical mistake on installation) or have their full, design service life.

It is not like 10% fail in the first year and another 10% fail in the second year and another 10% fail in the third year (a linear example) and the last 10% fail in the 10th years.

It is more like 10% fail in the first year and 1% fail in each of the following years until you get to the 6 year mark and the % of failures start to climb.

And then there is the complication of implants that are still functional when their OWNERS cease to function. (Hopefully with smiles on their faces.)
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SW0110
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Re: Life span on implants

Postby SW0110 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:41 pm

99 percent of those with implants won't be on here. So you are getting a very skewed result. One of the last data sets I saw was doctors were doing 25,000 to 30,000 implants a year. The vast majority are happy and moving on with life and probably have no concern whether their implant doctor is at the top of anyone's list.
18 cm plus 1 rte titan installed March 2019. Revision March 2020 by Dr. Andrew Todd, Richmond KY. He replaced the titan with an AMS 700 LGX 18 cm cylinder plus 2 rte for 20 cm total length.

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Re: Life span on implants

Postby Gt1956 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:51 pm

SW0110 wrote:99 percent of those with implants won't be on here. So you are getting a very skewed result. One of the last data sets I saw was doctors were doing 25,000 to 30,000 implants a year. The vast majority are happy and moving on with life and probably have no concern whether their implant doctor is at the top of anyone's list.

I totally agree. Also, one guy with a faulty implant can make a lot of posts while hes getting a revision. Thus it sure looks like a lot of failures because you read so many posts by a few men.
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