Theory behind benefit of aggressive cycling?

[crazyjoe]

As I have reported about my Titan implant, I lost about 3/4” length and some girth. I am 13 days out and have been cycling to the max inflation about 2-3 times a day. I have to admit that I am skeptical due to Eid expressing doubt that aggressive cycling will add length/girth.

I would welcome alternative views though as I would certainly like to add back those losses. What is the science behind the recapturing? My cylinders already go well into my glans so I am wondering how cycling can add any length to the cylinders. Is it that the cylinders soften up over time, thereby enabling them to get longer, or what?

Will appreciate any insights/thoughts, many thanks.

[vajim1]

You will gain girth for sure and I suspect some length also, it may take a month or so.

[2435tjklAS]

Your penis is weaker after a major surgery, and it and the new device needs to be exercised to get stronger. You need a theory to confirm that?

Keep exercising, but do it way more than just 2 or 3 times a day.

If you really need evidence, read this and buy a VED and use it for a year: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18561&p=169469#p169469

[crazyjoe]

good points -- so what would you consider to be aggressive enough cycling to do some good? i.e. how many times per day and for how long? I can go full max all day if that's what it takes.

And I already have a VED used for pre-op -- for post-op should I use it being inflated or flaccid you think?

thanks again

[newbie443]

A lot of factors are involved with this. Doctors aggressive or conservative sizing. Type of device. The LGX has the ability to expand in length more than the CX or Titan. How much and how long you had size loss from ED. Any other damage to the tissue in your penis. In cases where a revision is done 5+ years after first implant many receive longer cylinder over all length.

First of all you need to follow your doctors instructions. After you have healed fully and been released you can decide if you want to try other methods not approved by your doctor. Long pump adding inflations. VED use. Or other methods. You can ask your doctor about these to see if they will permit this. Thing is we are all different and your doctor may have very good reasons a man should not do other than the standard cycling protocol they instructed. So if you go against your doctors instructions that you trusted for this operation you are taking a risk. And infection is one of those risks.

One last thing. You are very early in this and there will be changes for up to or over a year. Difficult to wait but you need to understand that full healing adapting to the new you can take a lot of time. I had gains past 1 year with my LGX and long pump adding cycling. But not all men do. Right now it is important that you follow your doctors protocol for cycling. That is your work now.

Good luck brother.

[FMLFML85]

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[Blankloads69]

Dr Tobias Köhler gives his thoughts on this in the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miA3yhPFTJc

At 1:18 in the video:

Dr Köhler: "It is important to inflate the device maximally for an hour a day for the first year after surgery, once you get the green light to use it. There are some studies which are highlighted here in the box, which basically say that men who inflate the device daily end up with longer penises...and they end up with higher satisfaction.

I think what probably is going on here is that, after you get the implant in, the body tries to put what's called a 'surgical capsule' around the device. That can shrink the size of the implant even if it's sized properly. By inflating it daily, you manipulate that capsule so that you optimize the penile size. So at the end of the day, do you actually increase the size of the penis with this penile implant surgery? Probably not. You probably maintain what it should have been prior to surgery."

[Thumper007]

What is “long pump adding cycling”?

[2435tjklAS]

good points -- so what would you consider to be aggressive enough cycling to do some good? i.e. how many times per day and for how long? I can go full max all day if that's what it takes.

I don't think there's an answer for good or bad. It's my opinion that doing it as aggressively as you're comfortable with is a beneficial strategy. I am because I don't believe I am capable of breaking my penis or the device, and I only get one chance at this in my life - I'd much rather gain/regain size than two years from now be smaller than I hoped and think, "damn, wish I'd have invested more time and tried harder." Also is it even possible for me to break break my dick so bad my doctor can't even fix it?

And I already have a VED used for pre-op -- for post-op should I use it being inflated or flaccid you think?

thanks again

I'm using my VED while both flaccid and inflated. I don't have any proof or medical knowledge to describe why this is a good idea - it's just what I'm doing because I usually try too hard at everything. It's been working well and my stretched length can even get to longer than it was before implant to a bit over 9", although that's only after like an ~hour+ of repeatedly stretching it (if I just woke up and stretched it it'd be ~8.5" currently). I'd think using VED while flaccid is helping that, but again I have zero knowledge and these are uneducated assumptions.

I will say, though, that I firmly and confidently believe that simply following your doctor's advice on exercising is NOT the right approach. There is no way a urologist would tell an implanted patient, "yes, sir, you should be very aggressive with your penis and pump up your VED until it hurts for at least 2 hours per day and cycle to full inflation for even longer!" That's a malpractice lawsuit waiting to happen when any idiot trying to make his dick bigger breaks something and blames the doctor.

Doctors will always give very conservative estimates, but that doesn't mean they're the most effective. If a doctor tells you to do it 3 times a day, there's no chance doing it 10 times a day will hurt you.

My doctor told me that a VED wouldn't do me any good. What I realized later was that it wouldn't do me any bad either. Following your doctor's advice is good is virtually all medical situations - however, when it's about penis exercises to regain/gain size, it's worth some extra work. The lovely members of the "penis enlargement community" have nicely proved to us that dicks can take a whole lot of damage before anything goes wrong.

Your dick will be alright, putting in some work will help you get the size you hope for.

[Craigohbig]

Dr Tobias Köhler gives his thoughts on this in the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miA3yhPFTJc

At 1:18 in the video:

Dr Köhler: "It is important to inflate the device maximally for an hour a day for the first year after surgery, once you get the green light to use it. There are some studies which are highlighted here in the box, which basically say that men who inflate the device daily end up with longer penises...and they end up with higher satisfaction.

I think what probably is going on here is that, after you get the implant in, the body tries to put what's called a 'surgical capsule' around the device. That can shrink the size of the implant even if it's sized properly. By inflating it daily, you manipulate that capsule so that you optimize the penile size. So at the end of the day, do you actually increase the size of the penis with this penile implant surgery? Probably not. You probably maintain what it should have been prior to surgery."

This may or may not be the case. I maxed out my pump(flattened bulb) 2 weeks into the cycling
Doc said we m not growing beyond that