Question about max pumping

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Question about max pumping

Postby OregonStrong » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:12 pm

I was reading in another thread that an AMS rep told the person that you can't pump more than 25 to 40 pumps into the device, that there is a safety feature that once a certain pressure gradient is met, that any further pumps don't actually push fluid into the cylinders, I guess they are just empty air pumps at the bulb, or just circulating fluid back to the reservoir bypassing the cylinders. I've noticed that my AMS never gets completely stiff, but I am able to keep pumping more pumps, basically never ending pumps, so I guess that is what is happening to to my unit. Is this the case with the Titan also?
51 yrs old. E.D. issues started around age 35, combo venous leak/testicular failure. Bilateral testicular implants for severely atrophic testes. Implanted 6/11/20 Dr. Kramer LGX 21cm + 1.

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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby stmfttr » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:38 pm

OregonStrong wrote:I was reading in another thread that an AMS rep told the person that you can't pump more than 25 to 40 pumps into the device, that there is a safety feature that once a certain pressure gradient is met, that any further pumps don't actually push fluid into the cylinders, I guess they are just empty air pumps at the bulb, or just circulating fluid back to the reservoir bypassing the cylinders. I've noticed that my AMS never gets completely stiff, but I am able to keep pumping more pumps, basically never ending pumps, so I guess that is what is happening to to my unit. Is this the case with the Titan also?


OS,
Coloplast Titan here. After pumping to what seems to be max and engaging in our romantic interludes, during a pause after things get warmed up, I can pump 10+ more times and the wives says that there is a noticeable size increase.

So here's my 2 cents... The cylinders are inside the cavernosa (tunica) space. It's my theory that the tissues stretch when warmed allowing the ability to pump more. Also, if the surgeon doesn't size the reservoir large enough, once the reservoir is depleted, the pump can no longer transfer fluid to the cylinders. I'd like to have someone with Titan/AMS answer this one.
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stmfttr
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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby newbie443 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:22 am

OregonStrong wrote:I was reading in another thread that an AMS rep told the person that you can't pump more than 25 to 40 pumps into the device, that there is a safety feature that once a certain pressure gradient is met, that any further pumps don't actually push fluid into the cylinders, I guess they are just empty air pumps at the bulb, or just circulating fluid back to the reservoir bypassing the cylinders. I've noticed that my AMS never gets completely stiff, but I am able to keep pumping more pumps, basically never ending pumps, so I guess that is what is happening to to my unit. Is this the case with the Titan also?


2 different things come to mind on this. One is I can tell the difference in inflation pumps and bypass ones. After I have reached max and then if I wait for stretching I will get a pump or three inflating pumps before bypass pumps start back. So you can do long stretching cycling with the LGX adding pumps every 5 minutes or so. A second thing to consider is that the 21 cm LGX is the largest size made. For a larger size cylinder a CX or Titan must be used. I have been told by a well known Atlanta and NY doctors that even the 21cm LGX is problematic. And they recommended that I have my LGX replaced either with a CX or a Titan. But that being said my 21cm LGX is as hard as I ever was and maybe even a bit harder.

Try waiting 5 or 10 minutes after you are at max and try to add more pumps. Then repeat. See if you gain a bit in hardness and maybe even size.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby Masonjames » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:16 am

At about 6 months after surgery I could pump until the pump stopped transfering fluid. That took about 80 pumps with pauses between pumps. I have now reach the point where I can pump indefinitely and it never collapse the pump nor does the pump get hard to pump.
Has this happened to anyone else? It get hard and seems to work properly as far as sex goes. Is there anyone else here whos has experienced this? I have the Coloplast one touch pump. Size listed below.
70 year old, Married 53 years with two adult children.
Tried pills, herbs, and Trimix. Implanted by Dr. Hakky , in Atlanta, on the 1st, of September 2020. Titan XL 24cm's with two 1.5cm"s RTE"s

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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby OregonStrong » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:02 am

Masonjames wrote:At about 6 months after surgery I could pump until the pump stopped transfering fluid. That took about 80 pumps with pauses between pumps. I have now reach the point where I can pump indefinitely and it never collapse the pump nor does the pump get hard to pump.
Has this happened to anyone else? It get hard and seems to work properly as far as sex goes. Is there anyone else here whos has experienced this? I have the Coloplast one touch pump. Size listed below.


that sounds to me like you are experiencing bypass pumps too, so it must happen with the Titan as well.
With my LGX, it seems I can get it hard to a certain part, but if I keep pumping and get the bypass pumps, the unit actually starts to DEFLATE slightly which is annoying. I can reset it by letting some fluid out of the cylinders and pumping it up again, but it's fickle, sometimes it will give me a nice hard penis, other times it's only semi hard
51 yrs old. E.D. issues started around age 35, combo venous leak/testicular failure. Bilateral testicular implants for severely atrophic testes. Implanted 6/11/20 Dr. Kramer LGX 21cm + 1.

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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby Masonjames » Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:50 pm

OregonStrong wrote:
Masonjames wrote:At about 6 months after surgery I could pump until the pump stopped transfering fluid. That took about 80 pumps with pauses between pumps. I have now reach the point where I can pump indefinitely and it never collapse the pump nor does the pump get hard to pump.
Has this happened to anyone else? It get hard and seems to work properly as far as sex goes. Is there anyone else here whos has experienced this? I have the Coloplast one touch pump. Size listed below.


that sounds to me like you are experiencing bypass pumps too, so it must happen with the Titan as well.
With my LGX, it seems I can get it hard to a certain part, but if I keep pumping and get the bypass pumps, the unit actually starts to DEFLATE slightly which is annoying. I can reset it by letting some fluid out of the cylinders and pumping it up again, but it's fickle, sometimes it will give me a nice hard penis, other times it's only semi hard


Thanks for the reply. I will try the deflating and repumping. If it gets worse I'll have to have it replaced. I can tell it's not as hard as it once was. It doesn't deflate as of yet. Just never get that rock hard stretched feeling
70 year old, Married 53 years with two adult children.
Tried pills, herbs, and Trimix. Implanted by Dr. Hakky , in Atlanta, on the 1st, of September 2020. Titan XL 24cm's with two 1.5cm"s RTE"s

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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby oldbeek » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:03 pm

My AMS ,LGX700 is 3 years old. Cylinder size is 15cm with 5 cm of rte. I can get about 30-35 full pumps into it. That is max pumped. 6 1/2 inch with an upward curve. Hard as a rock and painful. At that point if I try to add another pump quickly, the bulb(hard as a rock) and will not compress. If I squeeze the pump bulb slowly the bulb will squeeze flat. I guess this is the relief valve. I can have sex at 10 pumps but harder is sometimes better. The upward curve doesn't start till the last 10 pumps and I can hang a full size towel on it.
83, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05in 2025,, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20 at Keck

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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby Old Guy » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:25 am

Now at near 2 years post with my Titan it takes 30-40 pumps to fully inflate. The last 5-10 pumps aren't complete full ones, but I can still feel growth and hardness increasing. Then the bulb gets solid like a rock. I've tried a couple times to inflate further while changing positions during sex, but the bulb is still hard as a rock.
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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby Leebert » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:22 am

Wow, i only do 4-5 pumps after setting the button and a few little ones too finish to steel hard on, whats up with that? I have a 67 reservoir.
I'm 65, heart attack w/stent 10 yrs ago, mod.HBP, married 46 yrs, retired.2 strokes.No damage, except start of Ed, Live in Ada Michigan. implanted by Dr. Wise in Grand Rapids mi. Implanted on 9/2/21 with 15 cm + 5cm rte. Ams 700 cx ms pump

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Re: Question about max pumping

Postby cbinspok » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:22 am

OS. My Doc was not keen on the 21 Lgx he said that was the one w most issues so he put the 18 in me w 3 rte s , im at 7 months (3 cycling) and
I am able to now do 25 wall to wall pumps, then after short time and 4 direction bending I am able to sneak in one or 2 more solid pumps. I’m at almost 6” . Hope this comparison helps. Good luck.
Cb
67years,fighting ed for over twenty years. A sever break, vit E, pataba, Viagra, massage Ved cilas, and I'm tired- throwing in the towel, Op for implant Mar 18, 2021 AMS LGX 18 x12 + 1 3cm RTE, gained girth and length, very glad I took the hard step.


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