VED with Implant

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truckrglenn
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VED with Implant

Postby truckrglenn » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:33 pm

I searched but didn't find what I was looking for.

Question: When using a VED with an implant, will the VED pull the saline from the reservoir into the implant?
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Re: VED with Implant

Postby OregonStrong » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:11 am

Never has with my implant. suction isn't strong enough for that.
50 yrs old. E.D. issues started around age 35, combo venous leak/testicular failure. Bilateral testicular implants for severely atrophic testes. Implanted 6/11/20 Dr. Kramer LGX 21cm + 1.

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Re: VED with Implant

Postby truckrglenn » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:21 pm

Using an automatic pump it seems like it pulls the saline from the reservoir.
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Re: VED with Implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:18 pm

truckrglenn wrote:I searched but didn't find what I was looking for.

Question: When using a VED with an implant, will the VED pull the saline from the reservoir into the implant?

When I first inflated, I wondered if suction would make it easier to inflate the implant. As it got easier to pump the implant's bulb, that question faded in importance.

After some experience, I agree with OregonStrong. The vacuum of the VED is not strong enough to contribute a significant help to the inflation process.

I have seen it recommended on FrankTalk (sorry, I don't have a link to the couple of posts that give this advice) to inflate the implant fully and then apply vacuum. The vacuum will ease the pressure on your penile tissues and eventually allow you to pump a bit more fluid into the implant, either at that time or a few more weeks down the road, or both.

Consider the pressure (vacuum) you can apply with the VED compared to the pressure you apply inside the implant. There are mentions of those figures in posts on FrankTalk also. (I also apologize for not having links for these, either).
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Re: VED with Implant

Postby newbie443 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:48 pm

truckrglenn wrote:Using an automatic pump it seems like it pulls the saline from the reservoir.


Maybe be your pump is not broke in and dot sealing properly. Or it could be it is pulling blood in and keeping it there as it is designed to. Remember go slowly and do not pump too fast. Even low pressure to fast can cause damage. Take care and good luck.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

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Re: VED with Implant

Postby truckrglenn » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:39 pm

When using the ved I can't squeeze the pump anymore. My whole purpose of trying the ved is because I either have arthritis, carpal tunnel or something. My thumbs hurt so bad that I find it difficult to fully inflate. Even trying different techniques, that is just shy of using channel locks. :o

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Re: VED with Implant

Postby stmfttr » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:05 pm

truckrglenn wrote:When using the ved I can't squeeze the pump anymore. My whole purpose of trying the ved is because I either have arthritis, carpal tunnel or something. My thumbs hurt so bad that I find it difficult to fully inflate. Even trying different techniques, that is just shy of using channel locks. :o


TruckGlenn,
Try the #415 channel lock pliers w/ smooth jaws or the #2078500 vise grip w/ smooth jaws....
JUST KIDDING, sorry, I couldn't pass it up. :twisted:

All kidding aside, arthritis sucks. I use the 2 thumb method and I also warm the scrotum for about 5 minutes before pumping. That softens the pump bulb. I use very warm wash clothes that I run under hot water.
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77 yo. Married 54years - Coloplast Titan, 22cm and no RTE's - Installed June 2019 Nebraska Medicine Dr. Deibert (urologist/surgeon)
ED started in 1994 Tried VED, Viagra and Cialis, and injections.

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Re: VED with Implant

Postby truckrglenn » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:47 pm

Jokes and comments are definitely welcome. I was seriously looking at them. Well not the vice. But if the channel locks had an adjustable screw to prevent over squeezing.....
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Re: VED with Implant

Postby Waynetho » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:04 pm

truckrglenn wrote:Jokes and comments are definitely welcome. I was seriously looking at them. Well not the vice. But if the channel locks had an adjustable screw to prevent over squeezing.....


Hey, if you have the same kind of thumb arthritis that I have, you might want to check with an orthopedic hand surgeon. I have bilateral basal thumb arthritis (osteoarthritis of the thumb joints at the wrist). Fortunately it only affects my non-dominant hand as I use the dominant hand more. I read of a surgery that gives full pain free motion and use of the thumbs for basal thumb arthritis. They clean up the bones in the thumb and wrist that have worn out and smooth them down, then they repurpose a ligament from your hand to go between the bones and act like the original cartilage used to. The article I read some ten years ago when I started suffering from this stated that it's estimated to last at least 20 years in most patients.
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Re: VED with Implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:15 pm

truckrglenn wrote:When using the ved I can't squeeze the pump anymore. My whole purpose of trying the ved is because I either have arthritis, carpal tunnel or something. My thumbs hurt so bad that I find it difficult to fully inflate. Even trying different techniques, that is just shy of using channel locks. :o

Waytho is right. The operation he described is a good one, but not the only one. I had a choice of the ligament pad or the one described herein, which I elected.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30947824/

The thumb joint is one of the most difficult to build a prosthesis for, as it has so many directions of motion and strength requirements. So, I researched the joint prostheses and saw that the failure rate (mostly dislocations) was fairly high. Successful surgeries had good results, but the unsuccessful ones were not encouraging of taking the chance.

The suture suspension arthroplasty replaces the trapezoid bone with scar tissue and the structural function is replaced by tying a string between the thumb and forefinger. That sounds pretty primitive, but has good results.

Good luck.

My other thumb will be done later this spring, I hope.
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Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter


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