AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

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AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby LookingUp » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:59 pm

Guys,

In the square listed: Corporal measurements

Proximal Distal
Left 12cm 9cm
Right 11cm 10cm


Op Report
AMS 700 CX
Cylinders:18cm + 3cm RTE = 21cm

I remember a discussion on here about measurements and outcomes. I preOped 5.5" length and 5 girth. I'm not cleared to cycle yet, What say Ye on a guess for length? Impossible to tell?

Fingers X for good news next week activation.

LUp
ED 26 years. 1995->Pills->Shots->Implant penoscrotal Implanted Feb2021, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal, 100cc reservoir. Looking forward to revision with a better Doctor.

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:10 pm

LookingUp wrote:Guys,

In the square listed: Corporal measurements

Proximal Distal
Left 12cm 9cm
Right 11cm 10cm


Op Report
AMS 700 CX
Cylinders:18cm + 3cm RTE = 21cm

I remember a discussion on here about measurements and outcomes. I preOped 5.5" length and 5 girth. I'm not cleared to cycle yet, What say Ye on a guess for length? Impossible to tell?

Fingers X for good news next week activation.

LUp

Upon activation, I was exactly the same length post-op as I was immediately pre-op. I had a good surgeon who measured me well and properly.

That being said, I was the same length immediately pre-op as I was in my youth, having lost no length to atrophy or E.D. I had been using oral medications to maintain the ability to get erect and when they finally failed, I used a VED to keep my penis elastic and flushed with blood, so lost no size during that phase.

Other men, who did lose length post-op sometimes get it back after some months of cycling (caveat: I believe regained length is usually RECENTLY lost length - long-ago lost length is probably a lost cause or at least a very long-term proposition). Scar tissue begins to form as soon as healing begins (probably even before the surgeon starts closing the incisions) and a scar tissue "pseudo-capsule" forms around the implant, limiting the ability to fully inflate - until that scar tissue is broken up. So, early activation is preferred unless contra-indicated by other factors.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
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READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
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Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby LookingUp » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:37 pm

"So, early activation is preferred unless contra-indicated by other factors."

6 weeks, 5 days from surgery. So much for that. Your whole post says my fkuced. Guess it's time to prove it all wrong.

LUp
ED 26 years. 1995->Pills->Shots->Implant penoscrotal Implanted Feb2021, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal, 100cc reservoir. Looking forward to revision with a better Doctor.

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby Waynetho » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:23 pm

LookingUp wrote:Guys,

In the square listed: Corporal measurements

Proximal Distal
Left 12cm 9cm
Right 11cm 10cm


Op Report
AMS 700 CX
Cylinders:18cm + 3cm RTE = 21cm

I remember a discussion on here about measurements and outcomes. I preOped 5.5" length and 5 girth. I'm not cleared to cycle yet, What say Ye on a guess for length? Impossible to tell?

Fingers X for good news next week activation.

LUp


Well, left and right both add up to 21 cm, so you're symmetrical at least. Depending on where the corporotomy was made, it looks like you're just about equal internal to external length but that's not necessarily accurate. I didn't get my proximal/distal sizes in my notes but it would be good to know - they weren't included in the surgical notes at all though. Since I have a 15cm with no RTE, you have an 18+3, plus a deeper crus (mine is almost non-existent). with the CX I'd be willing to bet you'll see between 5.5-6.0" at least, maybe closer to 6.5 but don't quote me on that (and don't be disappointed if I'm wrong). For the girth I think you're probably right on the money, unless you have more tissues than I have. I too have a 5" girth with my CX.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby LookingUp » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:47 am

Waynetho,

The proximal/distal numbers came from a AMS form. Lots of information posted on my "portal". My Doc works for a large hospital/health Org. I thought it strange that form would be posted.

I like your numbers, much mo betta. Thanks for the input. It is what it is. End of the Trip, I'll have a hard dick. All that really matters. I've got to work through loss of sensation and wife issues.

No One said this would be quick and easy.

LUp
ED 26 years. 1995->Pills->Shots->Implant penoscrotal Implanted Feb2021, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal, 100cc reservoir. Looking forward to revision with a better Doctor.

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby Gt1956 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:10 am

I think that Waynetho's analysis is pretty close. From my reading, it seems that a total of a 21cm implant length puts most guys in the 6" range. Give or take a little.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

LookingUp
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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby LookingUp » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:21 pm

6" ?? That's about me at 18 year old. I'd take that....

LUp
ED 26 years. 1995->Pills->Shots->Implant penoscrotal Implanted Feb2021, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal, 100cc reservoir. Looking forward to revision with a better Doctor.

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby newbie443 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:55 pm

As said it depends on anatomy. I have a 21cm LGX and 1cm RTE for a total of 22cm. But the 21cm LGX is shown to be able to expand to 24cm in a model they tested and 24.9 in another. I have no data on the CX but it is advertised to not have the length expansion of the LGX but does have girth expansion. I am just a tad over 6" at max inflation.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby Waynetho » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:18 pm

LookingUp wrote:Waynetho,

The proximal/distal numbers came from a AMS form. Lots of information posted on my "portal". My Doc works for a large hospital/health Org. I thought it strange that form would be posted.

I like your numbers, much mo betta. Thanks for the input. It is what it is. End of the Trip, I'll have a hard dick. All that really matters. I've got to work through loss of sensation and wife issues.

No One said this would be quick and easy.

LUp


You mentioned an AMS portal where you found your proximal and distal measurements. What is the portal login and what does it take to tie the login to your case? I went to Boston Scientific and created a login but I don't find anything other than information about what products they provide.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

LookingUp
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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby LookingUp » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:54 am

Not an AMS Portal. Sorry to say. Connected with the hospital group.

LUp
ED 26 years. 1995->Pills->Shots->Implant penoscrotal Implanted Feb2021, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal, 100cc reservoir. Looking forward to revision with a better Doctor.


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