AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

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Waynetho
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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby Waynetho » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:06 am

Well I got my entire OR notes from my doctor and it didn't mention anything regarding distal and proximal lengths, only that after proper dilation with a Hegar dilator to (I think) 15mm, he measured corporal length and determined a 15cm cylinder with no RTE was appropriate.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

LookingUp
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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby LookingUp » Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:35 pm

Activated yesterday. Pump to "First Day Max" this morning. 5.75" Seems youse guys was Spot On. I won't say 6" is in the "bag" (small as it is). It is more than pre-surgery Tri-Mix measurement.

Awesome Day Planned. Local Spa Couples Massage, home to Brake in the new Unit and Candlelight Dinner at the pool. Shrimp Scampi, couple Bottles Wine. Light the Tiki Torches.

thanks to all the guys that helped this day happen.

LUp
ED 26 years. 1995->Pills->Shots->Implant penoscrotal Implanted Feb2021, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal, 100cc reservoir. Looking forward to revision with a better Doctor.

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby SomeGuy » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:15 pm

newbie443 wrote:As said it depends on anatomy. I have a 21cm LGX and 1cm RTE for a total of 22cm. But the 21cm LGX is shown to be able to expand to 24cm in a model they tested and 24.9 in another. I have no data on the CX but it is advertised to not have the length expansion of the LGX but does have girth expansion. I am just a tad over 6" at max inflation.



1. LGX stands for Length and Girth eXpansion.

2.The CX does NOT expand girth!

After CX implant, I'm now 5 inches flaccid and 5 inches erect. No change.

(My lousy dr put a CX in me, although he told me he would put on the LGX. I wanted it due to my large girth. He never told me it was a possibility that he wouldn't use the LGX!)

BAM

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby SomeGuy » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:41 pm

SomeGuy wrote:
newbie443 wrote:As said it depends on anatomy. I have a 21cm LGX and 1cm RTE for a total of 22cm. But the 21cm LGX is shown to be able to expand to 24cm in a model they tested and 24.9 in another. I have no data on the CX but it is advertised to not have the length expansion of the LGX but does have girth expansion. I am just a tad over 6" at max inflation.



1. LGX stands for Length and Girth eXpansion.

2.The CX does NOT expand girth!

After CX implant, I'm now 5 inches flaccid and 5 inches erect. No change.

(My lousy dr put a CX in me, although he told me he would put on the LGX. I wanted it due to my large girth. He never told me it was a possibility that he wouldn't use the LGX!)

BAM


Reference my post about the AMS/CX not expanding girth. I know they advertise it as optimizing girth, but it did absolutely nothing for me. That's the basis of my statement.

BAM

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby newbie443 » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:47 pm

Expansion only happens if there is room for it. This can be achieved by cycling over time. But to the point of feeling stretching. Not to the point of pain however. Also if you had a long wait for activation you may have the "Coffin effect" https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... prosthesis This takes a lot of time and work but can be done. As said I have no data on the CX as to expansion but gains with my LGX took a lot of work and time. Over one year and then at three years I did even find a bit more. Gains are so small that they cannot be seen at least with me even week to week. And need to be checked every 6-8 weeks to really see. Some have posted faster results using VED therapy post surgery. So while AMS publishes that expansion can happen that is different from "will" happen. Some men have recoverable loss and some do not.

Take care and best of luck to all with this.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

LookingUp
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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby LookingUp » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:49 am

What is the max CX Girth? Either in Lab testing or here on FT? I remember reading a link on here about a lab testing of "strength" to failure point. Anyone point me please....

Pumped this morning and got 4.5" Girth. Oval shaped (expected).

LUp
ED 26 years. 1995->Pills->Shots->Implant penoscrotal Implanted Feb2021, AMS CX, 18 CM + 3 RTE, penoscrotal, 100cc reservoir. Looking forward to revision with a better Doctor.

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Re: AMS Penile Prostheses Patient Info Form, Meaning?

Postby newbie443 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:27 am

LookingUp wrote:What is the max CX Girth? Either in Lab testing or here on FT? I remember reading a link on here about a lab testing of "strength" to failure point. Anyone point me please....

Pumped this morning and got 4.5" Girth. Oval shaped (expected).

LUp


That paper was a comparison of the LGX and the Titan. I have seen no data on the CX. But if anyone can find some I would like to see it also.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.


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