Ams MS pump deflate

[LookingUp]

How do you deflate? Press and hold the button. And then?

I hold the button and squeeze the shaft. I notice over the day the flaccid goes away, just a bit. Should I pop the bulb and set the pump to inflate? Similar to Titan.

I've watched the dvd. No mention of anything other than hold button 4secs and squeeze my Unit.

Techniques?

Also, my snake eyes disappeared but the left side reappeared when I started pumping. I can feel the end of the cylinder pull thread. Is this common?

LUp

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[AST2123]

I read in the AMS pump instructions that I should not press the deflate button and squeeze the penis at the same time. Not sure what this can cause, but to be on the safe side, press the deflate button till you hear the click, then start squeezing. It can last to 7 to 8 seconds for me.
You need to speak to your doctor about the cylinders issue to make sure no harm to glans may happen.

[LookingUp]

AMS DVD guidance is "Do Not squeeze the deflate button while squeezing the pump bulb". I'm holding the deflate button and squeezing my shaft.

The AMS DVD does say to hold the button for 4 seconds and release. "After cylinders have deflated, you may squeeze the penis to make it more flaccid".

Right now, I'm not inflated enough to see a "cylinder drop" on their own. My concern was: after deflating the AMS, will it leak some fluid back into the cylinders? Should I give a quick bulb pop to put the pump in inflate mode. Early days for me with an implant. Maybe I'm over-thinking things.

I just figure some guys have other techniques?

LUp

[newbie443]

These pumps and every thing else are made to last a long time and the pump and cylinders take time to "break in" Heat helps in the beginning. After a while the pump bulb, and cylinders will soften and the valves will switch easier and more completely. The 4 second rule is just an estimate and not an in stone deal. When you press the deflate button you may feel a faint click. Kind of like something that breaks apart. When you release the button if you can still feel the buzz of fluid going back in the reservoir the valve has switched. I also had some reinflation. I guess the valve was just not "broke in" enough to seal properly yet. And I did go ahead and put a pump or sometimes 2 to get the bulb to pop to lock out reinflation. Now if I just deflate and do not inflate again for 2 or 3 days I will continue to deflate moving around and the cylinders tips will work down into my shaft and become uncomfortable. And I will add a few pumps or cycle again.

You can try heat. I used a heating pad. Or a hot shower. Baths when you are cleared to do so. This will help the valves switch fully and ease the stiff bulb and cylinders. If there is not time for heat or it is not available you can pump the bulb until it pops to lock this out also. My pump would rarely pop on the first pump in the beginning. If it did not pop in the first 3 pumps I would deflate again a then try again for the bulb to pop.

You need to get most of the fluid back into the reservoir so your body can adjust to the full reservoir. I had a bit of discomfort from this but it went away with time.

As far as your snake eyes on the left side I would use antibiotic ointment on them and contact your doctor as was posted earlier.

Good luck with this and I hope this helps.

[newbie443]

Double post.

[Waynetho]

If you're like I am, you will have some compression of your remaining organic erectile tissues when you inflate. This tissue is what helps to give you a girth that the implant along isn't capable of by itself. Once you deflate the implant, even if you fully drain the cylinders, the compressed tissues will eventually decompress and plump up some, thus filling you out a bit more. If you like the fully deflated look or if you're going into a situation where a flaccid look is preferred (nude beach, locker room, etc.), you can quickly inflate to near max, wait a minute and then deflate again and this will re-compress the tissues again. I can't say how long it will take to plump back up though. It might be 10 minutes or an hour. If it happens gradually it may not be noticed by others. Also, with my remaining organic tissues present, sometimes I plump up just from arousal or other stimulation so remove the stimulation and let things go back down and it's all good, or do the pump and deflate method mentioned above and I'm back to normal again.

One other point, I roll mine down while deflating. If you squeeze side-to-size, you'll end up with vertical folds in the cylinders and that won't let it hang down properly. Rolling down with the glans tucked into the penoscrotal area to squeeze out the saline, and then doing some kegels while squeezing to further eliminate the saline from the implant, will provide the most natural hang from mine. Maybe this will work for you as well.

[Lost Sheep]

At the risk of sounding arrogant, the so-called 4 second rule is hogwash.

There is some discussion in these threads.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13320&p=115880
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14043&p=122967
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15413&p=137052
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11936&p=109299


The amount of time the button is depressed has nothing to do with "setting" the valve into deflate mode. It is the DEPTH of depression that is essential.

I have proven this by experimentation and others have repeated the experiment and confirmed my results.

The procedure:

Starting at an inflated state (fully inflated or partially inflated, as long as the inflation state is full enough that there is enough pressure in the penis cylinders to cause flow from penis to reservoir when the valve permits flow in that direction).

Press the deflate button partially.

Deflation will occur (you should be able to feel a vibration in the valve indicating fluid flow)

Release the button and the flow will stop.

Depress the button again and the flow will start again, from the pressure in the penis cylinders.

Depressing the button partially allows one to start and stop the deflation flow at will.

Depress the button deeply and feel a click or pop (that is the valve "kicking over" to deflate position). Now, deflation flow will continue whether the button is released or not. The valve is in deflate mode/position.

I, and others, have repeated this experiment with the AMS valve many times and the results are consistent.

Caveat: If AMS has different valve designs, this may not be true of all the valve designs. Coloplast valve designs have not been part of my experimentation.

I figure that the people who wrote the instructions that mention the 4 seconds expect that clients/patients will, during that 4 seconds, depress deeply enough to kick the valve over. But if one is interested in only deflating a little, there is no time limit, only a depth threshold.

[Waynetho]

Caveat: If AMS has different valve designs, this may not be true of all the valve designs. Coloplast valve designs have not been part of my experimentation.

I figure that the people who wrote the instructions that mention the 4 seconds expect that clients/patients will, during that 4 seconds, depress deeply enough to kick the valve over. But if one is interested in only deflating a little, there is no time limit, only a depth threshold.

From what I can tell, there is only one currently available pump from AMS and it's the MS Pump, or "Momentary Squeeze". There may have been predecessors and there may be older and newer versions of the MS pump that have some refinements but the MS pump is the only model available from what I can find online.

[oldbeek]

At the risk of sounding arrogant, the so-called 4 second rule is hogwash.

There is some discussion in these threads.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13320&p=115880
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14043&p=122967
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15413&p=137052
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11936&p=109299


The amount of time the button is depressed has nothing to do with "setting" the valve into deflate mode. It is the DEPTH of depression that is essential.

I have proven this by experimentation and others have repeated the experiment and confirmed my results.

The procedure:

Starting at an inflated state (fully inflated or partially inflated, as long as the inflation state is full enough that there is enough pressure in the penis cylinders to cause flow from penis to reservoir when the valve permits flow in that direction).

Press the deflate button partially.

Deflation will occur (you should be able to feel a vibration in the valve indicating fluid flow)

Release the button and the flow will stop.

Depress the button again and the flow will start again, from the pressure in the penis cylinders.

Depressing the button partially allows one to start and stop the deflation flow at will.

Depress the button deeply and feel a click or pop (that is the valve "kicking over" to deflate position). Now, deflation flow will continue whether the button is released or not. The valve is in deflate mode/position.

I, and others, have repeated this experiment with the AMS valve many times and the results are consistent.

Caveat: If AMS has different valve designs, this may not be true of all the valve designs. Coloplast valve designs have not been part of my experimentation.

I figure that the people who wrote the instructions that mention the 4 seconds expect that clients/patients will, during that 4 seconds, depress deeply enough to kick the valve over. But if one is interested in only deflating a little, there is no time limit, only a depth threshold.

Excellent explanation. I agree 100%

[LookingUp]

Great info. Thank you all.

LUp