Length and cost

[Rawness1111]

I have heard of some people paying 50 to 70k for an implant and the have very nice looling penises. Is it a thing where the more that you pay the better service that you receive? Usually is with everything else in life? Also, if you get an penis enlargement at the same time that you receive an implant can that counteract the loss you will receive from an implant?

[Old Guy]

A good surgeon is the best way to get a good implant. 50K for an implant? Doubt that.
As far as getting a larger dick, an implant only allows as big a cylinder as your dick is now. You need a plastic surgeon if you want a porn star dick.

[Lost Sheep]

A good surgeon is the best way to get a good implant. 50K for an implant? Doubt that.
As far as getting a larger dick, an implant only allows as big a cylinder as your dick is now. You need a plastic surgeon if you want a porn star dick.

Unless you can get some porn star to be a donor

[Lost Sheep]

I have heard of some people paying 50 to 70k for an implant and the have very nice looling penises. Is it a thing where the more that you pay the better service that you receive? Usually is with everything else in life? Also, if you get an penis enlargement at the same time that you receive an implant can that counteract the loss you will receive from an implant?

Yes, you can pay high prices for the implant operation. Beyond the medical costs, if you get concierge service, (pick you up at the airport, have a luxury hotel-like recovery room, gourmet meals, etc).

It seems from your last sentence that you may think size loss is certain. It is not. Not even likely (at least, not CAUSED by the surgery). I know of one patient who lost considerable size after a few months because he did not perform self-aftercare. He did not cycle his implant. Size loss is also often illusory. The PERCEPTION of lost size is most often a result of unrealistic expectations or comparing to (how the patient remembers) his size in his youth. Belly fat reduces the measurable length, as well.

Compare your erect (however you can get an erection, if that is possible) on the day before surgery. Measure carefully, perhaps on several days. Compare that with your size (length and girth) to your penis after a couple of weeks (after the swelling goes down) and after 6 months. THEN you will have an idea if you have lost length.

Therapy by Vacuum Erection Devices (VED) can restore recently lost size, absent other considerations, and keep future size loss at a minimum (or prevent it).

I think it is fairly rare for a post-op penis to be uglier or prettier than it was before the operation. And really, isn't beauty in the orifice of the beholder?

Edited to add, after reading Tomas1's caveat. A penis inside a VED can be a LOT larger than is healthy or realistic for that penis, either naturally (as in fully functioning and healthy) or implanted. The vacuum can "push the envelope" and if you expect that to be your post-op size you will be disappointed. Also, the vacuum can damage your penis, so be careful.

[TANGERINE]

it is pretty well accepted that peinle implant is a "penis hardening procedure" and "definitely not a penis lengthening procedure". I am not aware of surgeons who will do complicated grafts to lengthen the penis; certainly, none of the superstar surgeons discussed here on franktalk get into the game of penis enlargement. Instead, what the suerstar surgeons do is "push the implant to give you as big as you are able to handle" But, the key is that your corpora needs to be large enough and long enough to accomodate the size that they put in--ie, in terms of length, you have what you have.

[tomas1]

I might add that don't expect the size in your VED after your implant.

[Gt1956]

I have heard of some people paying 50 to 70k for an implant and the have very nice looling penises. Is it a thing where the more that you pay the better service that you receive? Usually is with everything else in life? Also, if you get an penis enlargement at the same time that you receive an implant can that counteract the loss you will receive from an implant

Don't pay any attention to those high surgery costs. They are negotiated between the hospital & the insurance companies. The price that they quote on the papperwork is merely a reference spot that the discount starts at.
Pay more attention to those members that quote "self pay" prices. Those are very close to real prices. Dr Karpman told me himself that his self pay price is very competitive. Others have posted that his cost is about $20k usd.

[wolfpacker]

If you're paying out of pocket and concerned about cost, check out the packages offered by surgeo.com

https://surgeo.com/penile-implant

They offer a flat rate, fixed price for the surgery and it includes visits before and after surgery, as well as complications protection (I assume it would pay in case you had an infection etc and needed an immediate revision). You can even choose from a list of surgeons. Notably on the list is Dr Hakky for $18,500. I've heard of good results from him from other members here.

[Gt1956]

If you're paying out of pocket and concerned about cost, check out the packages offered by surgeo.com

https://surgeo.com/penile-implant

They offer a flat rate, fixed price for the surgery and it includes visits before and after surgery, as well as complications protection (I assume it would pay in case you had an infection etc and needed an immediate revision). You can even choose from a list of surgeons. Notably on the list is Dr Hakky for $18,500. I've heard of good results from him from other members here.

Excellent post, I'm glad that you did it. You pretty much prove my point better than my explanation does. Btw, I know that it likely does not matter. But do patients not residing in the USA have the ability to participate in this program?

[newbie443]

I have heard of some people paying 50 to 70k for an implant and the have very nice looling penises. Is it a thing where the more that you pay the better service that you receive? Usually is with everything else in life? Also, if you get an penis enlargement at the same time that you receive an implant can that counteract the loss you will receive from an implant?

Not always what you pay but more who you go to. Any really good surgeon with experience and interest in implants can properly fit you. But even the best have reoperations. And even the low end guys who only do a couple a year have a good out comes. It is more about finding a doctor that has experience and your best interest in mind. Or avoiding the ones that don't. But even then all you are doing is increasing your odds of a great outcome. There are doctors that will short change you and there are others that will work for your best outcome. And your price estimates for for the big 4 in the US in US dollars is about 20-40k high US dollars for the surgery out of pocket. But you need to add travel and lodging to that.

Size loss is caused by ED and injury. Grafting can be done if you have severe damage that requires it. ED size loss can be slowed or even some recent loss restored by careful VED use. The work starts before implant finding a good doctor and making a plan. Then longer you wait the more loss you can have from ED. None of the really good doctors I know about do enlargement. In the case of making you larger than your natural born length. What separates the good doctors from the others is preventing loss.

So in a way I guess there are cases where if you have insurance that covers local doctors who have very little interest in implants and preventing size loss pre vs. post op then the copays would be less than paying out of pocket and going to a doctor that does. But you can give up very important local care doing so and traveling. Best to look for that really good doctor close to you first. But if not then you have to weigh the loss of local care and the slim chance of problems against local doctors and the increased chance of problems and maybe size loss.

I hope this helps you understand what others have posted. Good luck going forward with this.