Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

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midwest guy
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Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby midwest guy » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:07 am

Have seen a few comments here about degree of hardness preferred while having sex, as well as what partners preferred. Just curious as to how hard your partner likes it, ana also what level feels best for you. In my case, my wife likes me to be inflated to 100%, hard as a rock. As far as sensations and reaching climax I prefer 80 to 90%.
74 yr old, Married 54 yr. Moderate ED 2001, managed with Viagra or Cialis. Prostatectomy 2018, Viagra/Cialis ineffective. Pump at 3 months, Trimix injections 6 months post op., Implant 9/10/20, Titan 22cm + 1cm RTE , infrapubic, Dr Joseph Mahon

Hounds68
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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby Hounds68 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:00 pm

I have found that you are right, the full 100% seems too much, but 80 % allows the erect penis to have more sensitivity, moving more freely inside the vagina, letting the head and frenelum to be massaged more by the clitoris and giving me a chance to hit the g spot because there is more flexibility which i accomplish by slow in and out thrust using my hand to play with her clit and making sure my cock is hitting that glorious area. I pump to 100% mostly to jack off.

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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby Lost Sheep » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:53 pm

I have yet to pump up to the point where my girlfriend wants less inflation/pressure.

My penis' shaft at (95% to 100%) is almost unbendable (any direction by hand pressure). Even at 90% there is precious little flex remaining. At 80%, penetration is still viable, but she does seem to like me pumped higher than that.

Sometimes I think she cannot tell the difference between 90% and 100% because she sometimes asks me if I am pumped all the way up. (This is concerning to me because I wonder if getting MORE rigid -though I cannot see how - or perhaps just longer or girthier would be more satisfying to her. Maybe it is just my insecurity talking, but how can a man tell where OPTIMAL is unless he goes past that point and she asks for less?)
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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby merrix » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:35 am

Lost Sheep wrote:I have yet to pump up to the point where my girlfriend wants less inflation/pressure.

My penis' shaft at (95% to 100%) is almost unbendable (any direction by hand pressure). Even at 90% there is precious little flex remaining. At 80%, penetration is still viable, but she does seem to like me pumped higher than that.

Sometimes I think she cannot tell the difference between 90% and 100% because she sometimes asks me if I am pumped all the way up. (This is concerning to me because I wonder if getting MORE rigid -though I cannot see how - or perhaps just longer or girthier would be more satisfying to her. Maybe it is just my insecurity talking, but how can a man tell where OPTIMAL is unless he goes past that point and she asks for less?)


LS, as I recall, you always say the Titan's benefit of giving a harder, stronger erection is only academic since nobody ever needs anything harder than the implant giving the softest erection on the market (the LGX). I, and a few others, keep saying that we and our partners enjoy the full hardness of the Titan (which an LGX cannot reach).
Seems you start to question whether perhaps there actually is no advantage to the Titan's extra hardness..?

The simple truth is that this is of course individual. Some people will think the LGX is hard enough and would not use any extra hardness even if it was only a few pumps away. But some, several here on FT, do actually enjoy a fully pumped Titan. And I think you are 100% right, you don't really know where the optimum is till you have passed that point and take a step back to find your sweet spot.

In my case, and my wife's case, we enjoy both. Sometimes the totally unnatural hardness of a 70 pumps 100% full Titan and sometimes a more natural hardness, 40-50 pumps, with some flex in the base. And let me just clarify that those numbers are not full wall to wall from first to last pump. They are gradually more and more shallow pumps.
The preference depends on the type of sex.
Long lasting, creative, all positions available - natural hardness.
Quick, rough, hard, animalistic in and out from a pool of a few positions - the steel rod hardness.

For my wife, she can't take the full hardness for a grinding one hour session in all kinds of positions. That will be uncomfortable, and more so the longer we go on.
So if she is up for the longer lasting sex, being free to choose any position, then she prefers the natural hardness.
But her preference is a shorter, harder type of sex. She just says it feels great to be fucked by a dick with that (unnatural) hardness.
But as with all else in life, variation is king. So she wants a mix of both.

In my case, it is basically the same thing.
If I am in the mood for just fucking her hard, with a kind of animal/robot (or whatever) feeling, then I'll do it fully inflated. It just feels great to know that you give your woman a feeling and experience (in terms of hardness at least) that she guaranteed never had before with anybody else.
But then on the other hand, I can't go on for too long that way. It will give me a dull mild pain if I go on for too long. So this is for the fast and furious style of sex.
When I am in the mood for more traditional, long lasting, romantic, creative sex - then I prefer the natural hardness.

So I still believe that for most people, it is an advantage to be able to choose. Natural hardness or the hardest dick this planet has ever seen on a human being - or anything in between. One simply don't have that option with an LGX. But of course, you do have a softer flaccid instead...
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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby JW0817 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:02 am

So you had a LGX before to compare it to because my LGX I got this year get's rock hard for me.
65yr old Had ED for over 10 year tried everything Had Implant on 8-17-2020 AMS 700 LGX 21cm + 1cm RTE

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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby merrix » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:34 pm

JW0817 wrote:So you had a LGX before to compare it to because my LGX I got this year get's rock hard for me.


No I did not. And even if I did, my word would have been a biased useless study with n=1.
Just like yours.
But fortunately, for us knowledge-seeking FT-members, there are several studies all showing that the Titan (and the CX) get harder than the LGX.
For some that hardness matters, for some it doesn't. You seem to be one of them, and hopefully your partner is another.
43 yo, ED forever from VL
Fit and active
Implanted December 2015
Titan XL 24 cm, no RTEs
Dr. Eid
Activated day 13
Sex after 3 weeks
Gained length and girth
So far It works perfectly
Only one advice: Find a world class surgeon

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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:17 pm

merrix wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:I have yet to pump up to the point where my girlfriend wants less inflation/pressure.

My penis' shaft at (95% to 100%) is almost unbendable (any direction by hand pressure). Even at 90% there is precious little flex remaining. At 80%, penetration is still viable, but she does seem to like me pumped higher than that.

Sometimes I think she cannot tell the difference between 90% and 100% because she sometimes asks me if I am pumped all the way up. (This is concerning to me because I wonder if getting MORE rigid -though I cannot see how - or perhaps just longer or girthier would be more satisfying to her. Maybe it is just my insecurity talking, but how can a man tell where OPTIMAL is unless he goes past that point and she asks for less?)


LS, as I recall, you always say the Titan's benefit of giving a harder, stronger erection is only academic since nobody ever needs anything harder than the implant giving the softest erection on the market (the LGX). I, and a few others, keep saying that we and our partners enjoy the full hardness of the Titan (which an LGX cannot reach).
Seems you start to question whether perhaps there actually is no advantage to the Titan's extra hardness..?

I question EVERYTHING. And re-question old assumptions periodically.

I haven't completely reversed my opinion. Comparison testing in vivo at max inflation is difficult.

Titans do have larger diameter than AMS CX or LGX, so beam strength and buckling resistance are naturally greater.

The material in Titans is stiffer to begin with (uninflated).

So, maximum rigidity for Coloplast Titans is assuredly higher than the AMS devices.

Or it it?

Internal pressure will make a difference and I have no data on the pressures actually used inside each makers' devices. Comparing three penises of similar dimensions implanted with the three competing devices actually pumped up to the maximum each man can muster would be a fair comparison. If the AMS guys felt 100% inflated at 25psi and the Coloplast guy felt 100% inflated at 15 psi, it could be that the AMSs compare in rigidity to the Coloplast. Or not. But hearing your evidence and your opinions (among others')

But, really, the proof of the pudding is in the objective measure on a penis.

I have been trying to design a device to measure bending/flexion strength of my penis that might be comparable to the same scale results on other men's penises.

I saw a picture once of a man's (implanted) penis wherein the back binding of a book was supporting the penis at the midpoint between his pelvis and his glans. At the glans, a weight was suspended and the penis was fairly straight, thus making an impressive image. But no objective, quantitative measure.

Variables (I have cataloged so far) that make this comparison not comparable between men are 1) the distances between base of penis and the fulcrum (the book binding) 2) the width of the book binding 3) distance from the fulcrum to the weight 4) effect of the diameters of the tunicas and then there is how to measure the amount of deflection of the penis .

If all those variables could be standardized, degrees of flex divided by torque (the weight) would be comparable between different men. I am unsure of how to compensate for diameter of the tunicas (or its proxy, girth) but the other factors should be easy enough.

Designing the device would be a matter of engineering design - fairly straightforward, that.

I am working on it. In between actually using my implanted penis. :D
Lost Sheep
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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby Quester » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:58 pm

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ED 20 years, Peyroine's Disease diagnosed in 2018, at 57 years I was implanted September 3rd 2019 at the Salt Lake City VA Medical Center, AMS700 CX 21cm + 2cm RTE

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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:40 pm

Quester wrote:All this banter about hardness I had to retrace back to original post.

For my 2 cents worth and then I may just leave the forum forever, as I’m totally or mostly so fed up with the whole “my implant is better than your implant” mentality that seems to keep popping up

The degree of hardness is what was mentioned before what is comfortable for you and your partner.

It could be just firm enough to being able to punch holes in concrete.

There of my soap box now

Sorry if it seems like the good-natured banter seems competitive or argumentative. I believe most of us involved in debate over this point or that are doing it in search of a truth or, at least, understanding. I feel no rancor here (if that is what you imply).
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

midwest guy
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Re: Preferred Degree of Hardness During Sex

Postby midwest guy » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:56 pm

I think for the most part, those of us with Titan implants are satisfied with firmness at 100% inflated. And I think most who have AMS implants are satisfied with hardness of their implants at 100%.

So let me rephrase my original question. IRREGARDLESS of which INFLATABLE implant you might have, what percentage of inflation do you you prefer, and what level does your partner prefer?
74 yr old, Married 54 yr. Moderate ED 2001, managed with Viagra or Cialis. Prostatectomy 2018, Viagra/Cialis ineffective. Pump at 3 months, Trimix injections 6 months post op., Implant 9/10/20, Titan 22cm + 1cm RTE , infrapubic, Dr Joseph Mahon


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