Fight with an implant

[Stewy78]

Here in my city where there is nightlife, unfortunately sometimes is necessary to fight because there are drunk violent guys molesting people, trying to rob you etc.. I usually try to avoid these situations as much as I can, but sometimes it's necessary to fight to defend yourself and loved people. Having an implant I'm wondering what can happens if I get a blow in an area where implant components are located. I think that the biggest risk in this situation is the abdomen where the reservoir is located because it's easy to get hits there during a fight. I'd like to know your opinions on this.

[Lost Sheep]

What city would that be, I wonder?

There are a couple of threads that asked a similar question about playing contact sports.

Playing contact sports (even Rugby - for which my cousin has a bumper sticker - "It takes leather balls to play Rugby") or weight lifting seems to present very little problems. I am not sure about boxing. I don't have links to them. Sorry.

In any event, I consider an evening out that involves a physical fight to be an evening ruined. I adhere to the philosophy that the best fight is one avoided. Whether by avoiding dangerous places or by presenting yourself in an unassailable position (in a group, with an attitude that discourages approach by an adversary, being aware of one's tactical surroundings, etc). For example, when in the woods, I sometimes carry a large caliber revolver and bear spray, (We have Grizzly and Brown bears) but avoidance is the tactic I use at all times. In the city, carrying a 454 Casull is impractical but sound tactics have kept me safe without impeding my (now non-existent-thank you, Covid-19) night life.

I recall an adage from the military a long time ago: "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." This applies just as well to civilian, police or any other confrontational situation. (Having said that, I commend you for your foresight in thinking about this question. That is also prudent.)

See my PM for more thoughts.

Lastly, I try never to fight with my implant. I find it much more fun to stay friendly with it.

[Stewy78]

What city would that be, I wonder?

There are a couple of threads that asked a similar question about playing contact sports.

Playing contact sports (even Rugby - for which my cousin has a bumper sticker - "It takes leather balls to play Rugby") or weight lifting seems to present very little problems. I am not sure about boxing. I don't have links to them. Sorry.

In any event, I consider an evening out that involves a physical fight to be an evening ruined. I adhere to the philosophy that the best fight is one avoided. Whether by avoiding dangerous places or by presenting yourself in an unassailable position (in a group, with an attitude that discourages approach by an adversary, being aware of one's tactical surroundings, etc). For example, when in the woods, I sometimes carry a large caliber revolver and bear spray, (We have Grizzly and Brown bears) but avoidance is the tactic I use at all times. In the city, carrying a 454 Casull is impractical but sound tactics have kept me safe without impeding my (now non-existent-thank you, Covid-19) night life.

I recall an adage from the military a long time ago: "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." This applies just as well to civilian, police or any other confrontational situation. (Having said that, I commend you for your foresight in thinking about this question. That is also prudent.)

See my PM for more thoughts.

Lastly, I try never to fight with my implant. I find it much more fun to stay friendly with it.

I totally agree with you LostSheep, and i also try to avoid situations that involve fight or violent people, i also love to stay friendly . Anyway sometimes when you or your loved ones are in physical danger it's necessary to fight for defense. It happened very rarely that i needed to react physically, i remember just two episodes and that happened before my implant surgery. So I really hope that it will never happens again. Just wondering what are the additional risks that a person with an IPP may have in those situations

[Lost Sheep]

Just wondering what are the additional risks that a person with an IPP may have in those situations

From what I have read, very little additional risk. The pump bulb it pretty robust. The valve body is hard plastic and probable pretty protected from damage from the fact that if kicked in the groin, will be between your scrotum skin and pelvic bone and will likely survive that pinch better than your scrotum.

If you take a punch or kick to the reservoir, there will be a shock wave through the fluid in the reservoir which will increase pressure in the tubing and valves. But the reservoir itself is unlikely to be damaged.

All this is speculation on my part. The threads I mentioned earlier have comments from people who more regularly get those types of stresses in their abdomen than I do.

Your musculature around the surgical site will have a lot to do with survivability. Legend has it that Harry Houdini boasted that he could take a punch to the stomach from anyone without injury, but died from a ruptured appendix caused by a punch from a stage hand when he was not tensed up and prepared to receive it.

Your surgeon might have some useful thoughts and may even place the reservoir for better survivability if you tell him/her that you engage in contact sports that could deliver impacts to the surgical site.

[Gt1956]

Remember, the reservoir is behind a muscle. I suspect that getting it dislodged is unlikely. I suggest searching FT for results matching boxing & other high contact sports. I personally think you are safe. If all else fails to ease your fears. Try taking some defense classes. Ask for an emphasis on strategies to avoid groin injuries.

[Old Guy]

Oh Boy if someone hit me in the sack not long after my surgery I'd be on the floor and useless. At this point (1+ year) a hit there would hurt just like it did 20-40+ years ago. My dog has a habit of jumping on my lap and always seems to manage to land a rear paw right dead center. He's only 50 pounds, it smarts but it doesn't put me down.
Now as an old fart I don't visit night clubs or bars, but IF I did in my city there would be additional metal in my pants other than my implant.

[Lost Sheep]

there would be additional metal in my pants other than my implant.

Chastity belt?

Stainless steel cup?

[68CatFan]

Time to move...

[GoodWood]

If I found myself frequently getting into fights to “defend” myself or others I would soon realize that the city wasn’t the problem, I was the problem.

I don’t care where you live. There is no place were it is “necessary” to get into fights. I’ve lived in NYC a long time and have spent a bunch of time at clubs and concerts late at night. I’ve never felt the need to get in a fight once.

My father used to say, “If you run into three assholes during the day, YOU are the asshole.”


It can be interesting (and worthwhile) to discuss things that could go wrong or damage an implant, but let’s dispense with this idea that getting into fights are inevitable or necessary.

[Stewy78]

If I found myself frequently getting into fights to “defend” myself or others I would soon realize that the city wasn’t the problem, I was the problem.

I don’t care where you live. There is no place were it is “necessary” to get into fights. I’ve lived in NYC a long time and have spent a bunch of time at clubs and concerts late at night. I’ve never felt the need to get in a fight once.

My father used to say, “If you run into three assholes during the day, YOU are the asshole.”


It can be interesting (and worthwhile) to discuss things that could go wrong or damage an implant, but let’s dispense with this idea that getting into fights are inevitable or necessary.

Maybe my english is not good enough and i can use wrong words so I can be misunderstood. But as I said I hate to find myself in violent situations and i try to avoid that in anyway. I don't frequently have to defend myself. I said it happened just two times in my life. And in that cases i can confirm you that physical defense was the right thing to do. And of course some cities/areas may be more dangerous than others, but primarily our behaviors matter.
It's a good thing that you never get the need to physically fight in your life. I had to do it just two times in my life, one time when I get robbed and tried to get beaten and another time where a man tried to hit and hurt my girlfriend. And i can say you that it was really necessary to physically defend me and her in those two cases.
So i wanted to discuss about what may damage an implant in physical fight not because I find myself in those situation frequently (again, just two times in my life) and i never wanted to dispense the idea that violence is necessary. But sometimes yes, it can be inevitable.