Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby Waynetho » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:32 pm

hope794 wrote:I think my Peyronie's comes from genetic, since my mom have had issues with a fibrotic disease .

To hear my surgeon tell it, Peyronie's has no genetic basis but I disagree and I'm on your side with that opinion. My dad also had Peyronie's. I discovered photos in his nightstand one night when I was in high school, didn't understand what or why the photos were about until I developed it too. When I told him about mine, he confirmed what I suspected about the photos, telling me that he too had been afflicted years ago.
59 yo, married 39 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19 Dr. Mark Allen, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby hope794 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:43 pm

Waynetho wrote:
hope794 wrote:I think my Peyronie's comes from genetic, since my mom have had issues with a fibrotic disease .

To hear my surgeon tell it, Peyronie's has no genetic basis but I disagree and I'm on your side with that opinion. My dad also had Peyronie's. I discovered photos in his nightstand one night when I was in high school, didn't understand what or why the photos were about until I developed it too. When I told him about mine, he confirmed what I suspected about the photos, telling me that he too had been afflicted years ago.



NO WAY it is not genetic. NO WAY. Doctors who say that Peyronie's is not genetic, just lie, lie and again LIE.

If it's not genetic, and it's because of microtraumas, then someone has to explain me why the hell pornstars which have hard sex really often in weird positions don't develop it, unless they're predisposed.
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:28 pm

smphead wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:
smphead wrote:


Funny to hear your wife has 'Rotterdam.blood'
People from Rotterdam have a 'Big mouth' but a small hard.
Rotterdam is ' no words, but acts'
There is only one thing good about Amsterdam the train back to Rotterdam :D

100% Netherlander, all older sisters & a brother were born in the Rotterdam area. She is fluent with no American accent. Me, open my mouth & they know that I'm a visitor. Had some nice visits there. Several aunts, uncles & cousins have visited us here. We make sure that they see a lot. The size & distances amazes them. Ride atv's, dig gold, Yellowstone & Las Vegas are popular with them. The number & frequency of wild animals is another wonder to them. Relatives are nice people but it is getting harder to find members that want to stay in touch.
Straying from the topic. A cousin described his health insurance to me. Sounded very similar to our insurance. Does your health insurance cover implants?
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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:36 pm

Waynetho wrote:
hope794 wrote:I think my Peyronie's comes from genetic, since my mom have had issues with a fibrotic disease .

To hear my surgeon tell it, Peyronie's has no genetic basis but I disagree and I'm on your side with that opinion. My dad also had Peyronie's. I discovered photos in his nightstand one night when I was in high school, didn't understand what or why the photos were about until I developed it too. When I told him about mine, he confirmed what I suspected about the photos, telling me that he too had been afflicted years ago.

Another data point. My new great grandson has a crooked penis. Not done yet but I'm led to understand that at his very yound age. The surgeon will put a few stitches in the "long" side to pull the penis back straight. I don't believe that the word peyronies has been used but my granddaughter probably doesn't remember the diagnostic name.
I'm of the opinion that there is likely several causes of curved dicks. Knowing medicine, they could even have multiple names based upon the cause. Still peyronies to most of us.
63 HBP at 40 high triglycerides at 45 Type 2 at 60

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby smphead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:23 am

Gt1956 wrote:Straying from the topic. A cousin described his health insurance to me. Sounded very similar to our insurance. Does your health insurance cover implants?


No, they want you to do VED or inections.
Only in the End you can do an implant in The Netherlands. Problem is there are no high volume implanteers in The Netherlands.
1978, male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby smphead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:27 am

Waynetho wrote:
Biker60 wrote:Don't know when you had your implant. But the Titan expands especially with regular cycling. In also 11 months, expansion makes the ring of a condom too tight for me . It's like using a cock ring. The Titan also did a great job on the remaining plaque in PD. Most men who have a Titan will also have a new flaccid as well.


Biker, funny you should say that about the condom... I can't wear condoms reliably because I'm semi-conical in shape now. The coroporotomies are at the base and I'm thicker there (5.5") than I am in the middle of my shaft (5.0") so the condom rolls down about mid-shaft everytime I roll it to the base. They need "Over the nuts" condoms so they stay in place, or maybe a condom-keeper that clips over the base so it won't roll down on those that aren't symmetrical down the length of their shaft.


OMG, so with a Titan you have the next problem. You can't wear a condom.
1978, male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
Thinking about Penile Implant.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby Waynetho » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:42 am

smphead wrote:
Waynetho wrote:
Biker60 wrote:Don't know when you had your implant. But the Titan expands especially with regular cycling. In also 11 months, expansion makes the ring of a condom too tight for me . It's like using a cock ring. The Titan also did a great job on the remaining plaque in PD. Most men who have a Titan will also have a new flaccid as well.


Biker, funny you should say that about the condom... I can't wear condoms reliably because I'm semi-conical in shape now. The coroporotomies are at the base and I'm thicker there (5.5") than I am in the middle of my shaft (5.0") so the condom rolls down about mid-shaft everytime I roll it to the base. They need "Over the nuts" condoms so they stay in place, or maybe a condom-keeper that clips over the base so it won't roll down on those that aren't symmetrical down the length of their shaft.


OMG, so with a Titan you have the next problem. You can't wear a condom.


First, mine's an AMS 700 CX, not a Titan. Secondly, my wider base is specifically due to how my lower volume surgeon implanted me. The tubes come out the sides of my dick at 45 degrees, at the base thus making it wider than if they were more proximally located. This was most likely due to my almost nonexistent crus.
59 yo, married 39 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19 Dr. Mark Allen, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby smphead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:17 am

Waynetho wrote:
smphead wrote:
Waynetho wrote:
Biker, funny you should say that about the condom... I can't wear condoms reliably because I'm semi-conical in shape now. The coroporotomies are at the base and I'm thicker there (5.5") than I am in the middle of my shaft (5.0") so the condom rolls down about mid-shaft everytime I roll it to the base. They need "Over the nuts" condoms so they stay in place, or maybe a condom-keeper that clips over the base so it won't roll down on those that aren't symmetrical down the length of their shaft.


OMG, so with a Titan you have the next problem. You can't wear a condom.


First, mine's an AMS 700 CX, not a Titan. Secondly, my wider base is specifically due to how my lower volume surgeon implanted me. The tubes come out the sides of my dick at 45 degrees, at the base thus making it wider than if they were more proximally located. This was most likely due to my almost nonexistent crus.


Thanx for your explination and good luck with your implant.
1978, male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
Thinking about Penile Implant.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:18 pm

smphead wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Straying from the topic. A cousin described his health insurance to me. Sounded very similar to our insurance. Does your health insurance cover implants?

No, they want you to do VED or inections.
Only in the End you can do an implant in The Netherlands. Problem is there are no high volume implanteers in The Netherlands.

Many isurance companies here are similar. They want you to try the simple/cheaper treatments first. Don't worry very much about that. You can try them a time or two then tell your doctor that they were ineffective or caused other problems. I'm fairly sure that at least some guys have even lied about trying them. Really, it is not like you're under oath testifying to a judge. I told my surgeon that I didn't want to try injections for fear of getting peyronies. He agreed with me. In January I become eligible for our goverment ran program called Medicare. They don't have the other treatment rule.
Lack of a surgeon can be a bigger problem. Get your local surgeons name & research him the best that you can. If you don't want to accept him. I suggest you complain that you want to be sent to a better surgeon.
How well do you speak some other languages?
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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby smphead » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:38 am

Gt1956 wrote:
smphead wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Straying from the topic. A cousin described his health insurance to me. Sounded very similar to our insurance. Does your health insurance cover implants?

No, they want you to do VED or inections.
Only in the End you can do an implant in The Netherlands. Problem is there are no high volume implanteers in The Netherlands.

Many isurance companies here are similar. They want you to try the simple/cheaper treatments first. Don't worry very much about that. You can try them a time or two then tell your doctor that they were ineffective or caused other problems. I'm fairly sure that at least some guys have even lied about trying them. Really, it is not like you're under oath testifying to a judge. I told my surgeon that I didn't want to try injections for fear of getting peyronies. He agreed with me. In January I become eligible for our goverment ran program called Medicare. They don't have the other treatment rule.
Lack of a surgeon can be a bigger problem. Get your local surgeons name & research him the best that you can. If you don't want to accept him. I suggest you complain that you want to be sent to a better surgeon.
How well do you speak some other languages?


Thanx for your responce.
It's tough to get a green light for an implant covered by healt insurance.
A lot of counseling and you need a partner (how discriminating is that). But i can get about 40%
Back from.taxes, and i'm ok with that.
I speak Englisch like the way i write. So it's not perfect but i can make my point.
I think Belgium is the best option for me. It's affordable and they speak Enlisch, although it's in the Frenck speaking part of Belgium.

I don't want the hassle over here to get in the end being operated by a low volume doc.
1978, male Netherlands. ED due Propecia use. Currently using cialis.
Thinking about Penile Implant.


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