Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

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hope794
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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby hope794 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:28 pm

Guys, i really appreciate your replies. Unfortunately, due to language barriers, i think i cannot explain myself at my best.

My main concern is that my flaccid penis has a SMALL girth, like 9cm.
So it means that almost all of my erect girth will come from the Titan cylinders. Let's say that they will give me, approximatively, 11.5cm girth, like many other people here.
NOW, the issue is that NOW, in my full erection (which i cannot mantain, that's why i'm looking at the implant) i have got like 14cm in girth.

So i would lose A FULL INCH and this will be too much for me, psychologically. That's why i am really concerned. If i had a 14cm wide penis in flaccid state, it would not be an issue, because that was gonna be the MINIMUM i would have had in my pants when implanted.
So.. i wanted to know if someone which had a small flaccid girth (less than 10-11cm) but more than 13.5/14cm girth in erection has his still its girth measurements with the implant..

Sorry again for my english, im from Italy so i am not native speaker.. Thank you everyone mates
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby C_lab34 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:49 pm

The cylinders will stretch your penis out as if the corpora were expanding and filling with blood during an erection. You will be close to the same size circumference, though with a slightly different shape, a little flatter and less round. But then with arousal and decent bloodflow, your surrounding tissue will also engorge and fill out the shape of your penis. You should end up pretty much close to the same size, give or take a little. I wouldn't worry about something this trivial and quantitative. Either your penis doesn't work and it doesn't matter what your natural "girth" is anyway or your penis does work and then you don't need an implant.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby hope794 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:58 pm

C_lab34 wrote:The cylinders will stretch your penis out as if the corpora were expanding and filling with blood during an erection. You will be close to the same size circumference, though with a slightly different shape, a little flatter and less round. But then with arousal and decent bloodflow, your surrounding tissue will also engorge and fill out the shape of your penis. You should end up pretty much close to the same size, give or take a little. I wouldn't worry about something this trivial and quantitative. Either your penis doesn't work and it doesn't matter what your natural "girth" is anyway or your penis does work and then you don't need an implant.


C_lab, thank you for your reply. I do not agree with the last statement: you're obviously right, but the psychological component is important to me. We are not "robots"..

Regarding the other things you've said, i just cannot figure out how it works. Probably it is an issue for me to get it, and i apologize with everyone trying to explain..
What i don't get is: if the maximum cylinders expansion in diameter is 22mm, then how's that possible to have MORE than that girth, if you do not have already when you are in flaccid state?

For example let's say you got 160mm circumference in erection and 100mm in flaccid state. If you put a Titan implant, your maximum girth will be the 44mm diameter in full pump + a little bit from engorgement.. But you will probably never be able to reach or even go near your original 160mm circumference when you were erect...

Am i missing something? It is really important to me..
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby tomas1 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:49 pm

I don't believe you can use the flaccid girth to estimate your implanted girth.
I would guess that you should end up with a similar girth that you had with an erection.

I do know that I filed out nicely on the underside of my penis.
It made it nearly round. I do have a slight cleavage between the cylinders on top.
It doesn't present any problems.
82 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Got implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, horizontal incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc reservoir
Diagnosed with Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby Waynetho » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:49 pm

hope794 wrote:Regarding the other things you've said, i just cannot figure out how it works. Probably it is an issue for me to get it, and i apologize with everyone trying to explain..
What i don't get is: if the maximum cylinders expansion in diameter is 22mm, then how's that possible to have MORE than that girth, if you do not have already when you are in flaccid state?

For example let's say you got 160mm circumference in erection and 100mm in flaccid state. If you put a Titan implant, your maximum girth will be the 44mm diameter in full pump + a little bit from engorgement.. But you will probably never be able to reach or even go near your original 160mm circumference when you were erect...

Am i missing something? It is really important to me..


Yes, you are missing something. There is more to a penis than the two erectile bodies which will be filled up with the implant cylinders. You are looking at only about 60-65% of the diameter of your penis being filled out by the implant. The remainder is your own flesh. There are several layers of tissue between the cylinder placement and the outside of the penis. There is remaining spongy material inside the corpora that will either engorge or at least compress and provide bulk inside the corpora. There is the tunica albuginea (the fibrous layer that limits the erection size), the tunica has a septum between left and right corpora which has thickness, the dartos and bucks fascias and obviously the skin. There's also the spongiosum as well as the urethra which it surrounds. All of these tissues have substance/thickness. Doing only a calculation for "(CYLINDER DIAMETER x 2) x pi" to arrive at your resulting girth doesn't factor in the other tissues involved in the penile girth. Yes it will be more wide than thick but girth is still going to be considerably more involved than a simple "(D*2)*pi" equation.
59 yo, married 39 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19 Dr. Mark Allen, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby hope794 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:27 pm

Waynetho wrote:
hope794 wrote:Regarding the other things you've said, i just cannot figure out how it works. Probably it is an issue for me to get it, and i apologize with everyone trying to explain..
What i don't get is: if the maximum cylinders expansion in diameter is 22mm, then how's that possible to have MORE than that girth, if you do not have already when you are in flaccid state?

For example let's say you got 160mm circumference in erection and 100mm in flaccid state. If you put a Titan implant, your maximum girth will be the 44mm diameter in full pump + a little bit from engorgement.. But you will probably never be able to reach or even go near your original 160mm circumference when you were erect...

Am i missing something? It is really important to me..


Yes, you are missing something. There is more to a penis than the two erectile bodies which will be filled up with the implant cylinders. You are looking at only about 60-65% of the diameter of your penis being filled out by the implant. The remainder is your own flesh. There are several layers of tissue between the cylinder placement and the outside of the penis. There is remaining spongy material inside the corpora that will either engorge or at least compress and provide bulk inside the corpora. There is the tunica albuginea (the fibrous layer that limits the erection size), the tunica has a septum between left and right corpora which has thickness, the dartos and bucks fascias and obviously the skin. There's also the spongiosum as well as the urethra which it surrounds. All of these tissues have substance/thickness. Doing only a calculation for "(CYLINDER DIAMETER x 2) x pi" to arrive at your resulting girth doesn't factor in the other tissues involved in the penile girth. Yes it will be more wide than thick but girth is still going to be considerably more involved than a simple "(D*2)*pi" equation.



Thank you for the answer. We agree on that 100%. But then, how can i know in advanc, at least, a "range" where my girth will be after being implanted?
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby newbie443 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:59 pm

hope794 wrote:Hello. Long story short, i thought that the penile girth with an implant was the same of what i had, in full erection, before the implant.
Today, i discovered that the implant only have 22cm diameter (the Titan) and so, the only girth you will have is the one from the implant itself or, at best, the one you had when you were flaccid before the surgery..

I'm doing my researches about this topic because, unfortunately, my stretched penile girth is ridicolous, like 9 cm (3.53"), and i've heard that these are the measurements which they take when they implant you.. and the ones you will have. I can't go from 15cm ( 5,90" ) girth now to 9 cm (3.53") after the implant, i would be too depressed and i wont accept it..

So i would like to know:

1) Which was your girth, in flaccid state, BEFORE the implant?
2) And how many inches is your girth now that you've been implanted?

Thank you everyone..


First of all we are not all girthy. So that is why some of us have AMS. The girthy guys mostly have Titan's so no use comparing apples to grapefruit so to speak. I have 5" girth with an AMS. A Titan would only give me more if there was more to give. Like length. My LGX will only get me what is there to get. So we are all different. If you start looking at the guys with Titan's you will find some with more girth than you. HardRon for one example. He list a max inflated girth of 6.5" or 16.5 cm. Does not mean you will get that. Just means he has larger girth than you. Just like my having 5" girth. Does not mean you will get that it just means I have less girth than you. So your stretch test is just something for a ballpark for length. Not for girth. So forget your girth measurement with stretch test. It is 100% false. So start going through threads and only look at the Titan guys and see if they posted size after implant. No use to look at narrow cylinder guys either. We are not all the same size but for those like you that have bigger girth the Titan does get you there and even beyond for men with even larger girth.

I have been going through trying to get a reoperation and seeing doctors again and believe me when I say there has been some really bad thoughts going on through my head. Most of us have had them. So we understand as we have been there. But you my friend are worrying about nothing in this case. The Titan is more than capable of giving you your full girth, and as I wrote above, even greater than you have.

We are all different in our process that gets us into the operating room or not. So no rush. Take your time and keep asking questions. We are here to help you. No pressure for or against. Take care and I look forward to seeing you on this board again.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6" L 5" G Dr. Kramer. https://youtu.be/QPu9pLBM0wM

63 years young.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby hope794 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:12 pm

newbie443 wrote:
hope794 wrote:Hello. Long story short, i thought that the penile girth with an implant was the same of what i had, in full erection, before the implant.
Today, i discovered that the implant only have 22cm diameter (the Titan) and so, the only girth you will have is the one from the implant itself or, at best, the one you had when you were flaccid before the surgery..

I'm doing my researches about this topic because, unfortunately, my stretched penile girth is ridicolous, like 9 cm (3.53"), and i've heard that these are the measurements which they take when they implant you.. and the ones you will have. I can't go from 15cm ( 5,90" ) girth now to 9 cm (3.53") after the implant, i would be too depressed and i wont accept it..

So i would like to know:

1) Which was your girth, in flaccid state, BEFORE the implant?
2) And how many inches is your girth now that you've been implanted?

Thank you everyone..


First of all we are not all girthy. So that is why some of us have AMS. The girthy guys mostly have Titan's so no use comparing apples to grapefruit so to speak. I have 5" girth with an AMS. A Titan would only give me more if there was more to give. Like length. My LGX will only get me what is there to get. So we are all different. If you start looking at the guys with Titan's you will find some with more girth than you. HardRon for one example. He list a max inflated girth of 6.5" or 16.5 cm. Does not mean you will get that. Just means he has larger girth than you. Just like my having 5" girth. Does not mean you will get that it just means I have less girth than you. So your stretch test is just something for a ballpark for length. Not for girth. So forget your girth measurement with stretch test. It is 100% false. So start going through threads and only look at the Titan guys and see if they posted size after implant. No use to look at narrow cylinder guys either. We are not all the same size but for those like you that have bigger girth the Titan does get you there and even beyond for men with even larger girth.

I have been going through trying to get a reoperation and seeing doctors again and believe me when I say there has been some really bad thoughts going on through my head. Most of us have had them. So we understand as we have been there. But you my friend are worrying about nothing in this case. The Titan is more than capable of giving you your full girth, and as I wrote above, even greater than you have.

We are all different in our process that gets us into the operating room or not. So no rush. Take your time and keep asking questions. We are here to help you. No pressure for or against. Take care and I look forward to seeing you on this board again.



Ehy newbie, thank you really much, from the deep of my heart. Your words were encouraging, seriously. Especially the last part.

I still doesnt get how's possible that a guy with a Titan can have a girth of 120mm and another one can go up to 165mm girth. As waynetho said, i know that there are other tissues around, but they do not expand. Just the cylinders do. So the maximum expansion can be that for everyone (22mm each cylinder). Even if there are surrounding tissues, i can't figure out how's possible a range from 11 cm to 17cm girth.. i am beginning to feel myself stupid, honestly. That's a shame for me since i work with pretty complicate finance things, so i am used to study and understand concepts. Maybe it's the language barrier.

I will post my flaccid and erect pics, and you guys will help me with an evaluation..
26 yo from Italy.Peyronie's disease probably since 2015.Since then,penis bends of about 20-25°. PD keeps progressing. Moderate ED since 4 years and things getting worse.From pornstar-like to depressed, but still fighting for a solution.

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby anonymous 5 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:38 pm

hope794 wrote:Hello. Long story short, i thought that the penile girth with an implant was the same of what i had, in full erection, before the implant.
Today, i discovered that the implant only have 22cm diameter (the Titan) and so, the only girth you will have is the one from the implant itself or, at best, the one you had when you were flaccid before the surgery..

I'm doing my researches about this topic because, unfortunately, my stretched penile girth is ridicolous, like 9 cm (3.53"), and i've heard that these are the measurements which they take when they implant you.. and the ones you will have. I can't go from 15cm ( 5,90" ) girth now to 9 cm (3.53") after the implant, i would be too depressed and i wont accept it..

So i would like to know:

1) Which was your girth, in flaccid state, BEFORE the implant?
2) And how many inches is your girth now that you've been implanted?

Thank you everyone..

Hi,
I didn't have peyronies disease. I have diabetes. I'm 40 years older than you.

1) My flaccid girth was 3-4 inches. (My erect girth was 6.5 inches a month before surgery.) 2) Implanted AMS CX on 30 Jun. Erect girth now just 5.0 inches. (I hate it.)

Talk to as many different doctors as you can. Asking people here won't necessarily get you expert advice.

Good luck.
65 yo. Terrible implant surgery by dr. Grigoriev from Las Vegas Urology on 30 Jun 20. (See my post in Implants titled "Newby here: My recent (30 Jun 20), bad penile implant experience".) DO NOT GO TO HIM!

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Re: Really depressed about the girth. Please help me

Postby newbie443 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:06 pm

hope794 wrote:
newbie443 wrote:
hope794 wrote:Hello. Long story short, i thought that the penile girth with an implant was the same of what i had, in full erection, before the implant.
Today, i discovered that the implant only have 22cm diameter (the Titan) and so, the only girth you will have is the one from the implant itself or, at best, the one you had when you were flaccid before the surgery..

I'm doing my researches about this topic because, unfortunately, my stretched penile girth is ridicolous, like 9 cm (3.53"), and i've heard that these are the measurements which they take when they implant you.. and the ones you will have. I can't go from 15cm ( 5,90" ) girth now to 9 cm (3.53") after the implant, i would be too depressed and i wont accept it..

So i would like to know:

1) Which was your girth, in flaccid state, BEFORE the implant?
2) And how many inches is your girth now that you've been implanted?

Thank you everyone..


First of all we are not all girthy. So that is why some of us have AMS. The girthy guys mostly have Titan's so no use comparing apples to grapefruit so to speak. I have 5" girth with an AMS. A Titan would only give me more if there was more to give. Like length. My LGX will only get me what is there to get. So we are all different. If you start looking at the guys with Titan's you will find some with more girth than you. HardRon for one example. He list a max inflated girth of 6.5" or 16.5 cm. Does not mean you will get that. Just means he has larger girth than you. Just like my having 5" girth. Does not mean you will get that it just means I have less girth than you. So your stretch test is just something for a ballpark for length. Not for girth. So forget your girth measurement with stretch test. It is 100% false. So start going through threads and only look at the Titan guys and see if they posted size after implant. No use to look at narrow cylinder guys either. We are not all the same size but for those like you that have bigger girth the Titan does get you there and even beyond for men with even larger girth.

I have been going through trying to get a reoperation and seeing doctors again and believe me when I say there has been some really bad thoughts going on through my head. Most of us have had them. So we understand as we have been there. But you my friend are worrying about nothing in this case. The Titan is more than capable of giving you your full girth, and as I wrote above, even greater than you have.

We are all different in our process that gets us into the operating room or not. So no rush. Take your time and keep asking questions. We are here to help you. No pressure for or against. Take care and I look forward to seeing you on this board again.



Ehy newbie, thank you really much, from the deep of my heart. Your words were encouraging, seriously. Especially the last part.

I still doesnt get how's possible that a guy with a Titan can have a girth of 120mm and another one can go up to 165mm girth. As waynetho said, i know that there are other tissues around, but they do not expand. Just the cylinders do. So the maximum expansion can be that for everyone (22mm each cylinder). Even if there are surrounding tissues, i can't figure out how's possible a range from 11 cm to 17cm girth.. i am beginning to feel myself stupid, honestly. That's a shame for me since i work with pretty complicate finance things, so i am used to study and understand concepts. Maybe it's the language barrier.

I will post my flaccid and erect pics, and you guys will help me with an evaluation..


The cylinders only expand as much as there is room for. So I have room to expand to 5" or 13 cm girth then that is all there is. The cylinders will not expand past the room they have. That is why the AMS LGX web site says "up to 20% expansion". Some have room for the 20% and some have room for 0%. And a bunch in between. This is not about enlargement. A Titan will not give me more girth than I have room for. An implant will not make you larger than you are. But a very good doctor with the proper implant and proper size will give you what you have room for. That room or your natural size was determined before you were born. Titan also has narrow cylinders. For guys who have less girth or scar tissue that prevent implanting the standard cylinders. So that girth will be less.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6" L 5" G Dr. Kramer. https://youtu.be/QPu9pLBM0wM

63 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.


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